Confirmed with Link: Edmonton trades for Trent Frederic and Max Jones and rights to Petr Hauser for Shane Lachance, Max Wanner, St. Louis' 2nd pick in `25, Edm 4th in `26

[KCC]

We could get MacKinnon at this point and that won’t matter to me. We need a starting goalie.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Like clockwork.

The odds of anything we traded, including the 2nd, becoming anything more than a bit level NHL player are incredibly low.

True but they are assets that could be used to help us get a player that is actually healthy and hasn’t played like crap all year.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Fair enough. Most of my pessimism comes from interactions with Bruins fans after we last played them where all they could say about the guy was that he always did dumb shit that hurt the team on the ice and they couldn't wait to trade him away.

I wouldn't have much issue with the trade if the assets were less, but a 2nd round pick from this year was one of our biggest bargaining chips left after O'Reilly or Savoie. Then they threw in their 2nd best d prospect (right shot even) and a huge winger that's having a breakout season in college.

I remember the same. Bruins fans had really turned on Frederic. Myself I thought he had some pretty notable drop off. Could be related to the team. Maybe he's the kind of player that needs to be on a competitive side and the Bruins are frankly awful.

Wonder too if this signals that the Podz experiment is pretty much done. He's dropped off in every aspect. Remember last time he fought somebody? I don't either. Seems not even interested in those intangibles anymore.

 

[guymez]

Tough to find out any info about Frederics skating.

 

[foshizzle]

Fair enough. Most of my pessimism comes from interactions with Bruins fans after we last played them where all they could say about the guy was that he always did dumb shit that hurt the team on the ice and they couldn't wait to trade him away.

I wouldn't have much issue with the trade if the assets were less, but a 2nd round pick from this year was one of our biggest bargaining chips left after O'Reilly or Savoie. Then they threw in their 2nd best d prospect (right shot even) and a huge winger that's having a breakout season in college.

That's fair

 

[joestevens29]

Kind of feel like this means it really is money in money out. Not sure why you'd pay for extra retention on Frederic if that was the case (considering that if they are going into LTIR, they have quite a bit of space).

Depends how high they are on Lachance. Bowman might view it as a nothing prospect and trying to get as much cap as possible for other moves.

 

[LemmyUlanov55]

Steep price to pay, hope Frederic gets healthy soon.

 

[McFlyingV]

Did we seriously just give up 2 of our top 10 prospects and mulitple draft picks for an injured upcoming UFA that fans of his existing team hated?

Outside of Savoie, O'Reilly, Akey, and Beryozkin all of the oilers prospects are essentially C-tier prospects. I wouldn't worry too much. Wanner hasn't progressed at all this year, and Lachance has massive skating concerns.

 

[Arpeggio]

Depends how high they are on Lachance. Bowman might view it as a nothing prospect and trying to get as much cap as possible for other moves.

Yeah it really depends on whether they have anything else lined up.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

The price paid suggest he has to be their middle 6 forward acquisition.

I agree he is our middle 6, but why does the price suggest that? We didn't blow any big assets? We still have Savoie, SOR, 1st, Akey, the Russian kid

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

I like the size. Good playoff body

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Reasonable price for a solid player who's physical and potentially fills our 3C hole. Would've loved to make a similar trade to this instead of the Henrique deal last year. Still need at least 2 of a scoring winger/top 4 RHD/goalie, but credit where credit is due. Bowman has made a lot of good smaller scale moves after the Holloway/Broberg disaster.

 

[guymez]

True but they are assets that could be used to help us get a player that is actually healthy and hasn’t played like crap all year.

Welll...better to buy low and add a player having a down year and a history of being good.
The only issue here IMO is the injury and if the injury is the primary reason for the down year.
Hoping that this isnt a chronic injury.

He gives the Oilers something they need.
This was by and large a team of smurfs.

 

[bone]

Which valuable assets? It was a mid to late 2nd round pick and a couple of longshot prospects, what was the 4th one?

Should have said 3 as the 4th isn't a big deal. But those other 3 are valuable in terms of what Edmonton has available to offer. That 2nd round pick was their possibly their biggest non-player trade asset since their next two first rounders are wrapped in convolution. Wanner was their 2nd best defensive prospect, and Lachance has been moving up the charts. I'm not heartbroken about any single one of those assets, I'm just annoyed they moved all three of them.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

So is Frederic.

nah, he's exactly what he is....energy player who plays in the bottom 6 and provides grit and speed, something the Oilers lack
giving up a couple "maybes" to keep the salary down is how it should be done

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

Healthy Drai, Kane, and Frederic - I'm not so worried about being pushed around come playoff time

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

if we can somehow get a winger for Leon and move Arvy we have a great team (goalie questions aside)

 

[Drivesaitl]

One thing that irks me continually is how this org is so awful with cap structure that it seems like every guy they bring in has to have buyback or some other deferred cap or gimmicks just to fit him in. This of course meaning it costs us in other ways to obtain that kind of "desperate" deal. The Oilers lose further prospects that they don't even care about because of how awful cap management is. Of course this being a continual thing.

This team is gonna look full of holes in a few yrs. Won't be any cheap ECLs or prospects to be found here.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Steep price to pay, hope Frederic gets healthy soon.

is it? 3 assets that have a higher chance than not of being NHL regulars for a player that fills a few holes for our playoff stretch

 

[joestevens29]

Yeah it really depends on whether they have anything else lined up.

Even if they have nothing else ready to pull the trigger on you have no idea what is going to end up being available cheap(asset wise) at the last minute on friday.

Granted the one year it ended up in Derrick Brassard, but I think you still want to have space just in case.

Especially considering we don't really have any candidates to waive to open up space due to all these NMC.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

One thing that irks me continually is how this org is so awful with cap structure that it seems like every guy they bring in has to have buyback or some other deferred cap or gimmicks just to fit him in. This of course meaning it costs us in other ways to obtain that kind of "desperate" deal. The Oilers lose further prospects that they don't even care about because of how awful cap management is. Of course this being a continual thing.

This team is gonna look full of holes in a few yrs. Won't be any cheap ECLs or prospects to be found here.

Yup so go out and trade SOR and a 1st for Nelson. And WIN NOW.

 

[bone]

Outside of Savoie, O'Reilly, Akey, and Beryozkin all of the oilers prospects are essentially C-tier prospects. I wouldn't worry too much. Wanner hasn't progressed at all this year, and Lachance has massive skating concerns.

Fair enough. The issue too me is less about any one of them, it's that it was all of them.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Welll...better to buy low and add a player having a down year and a history of being good.
The only issue here IMO is the injury and if the injury is the primary reason for the down year.
Hoping that this isnt a chronic injury.

He gives the Oilers something it needs. This was by and large a team of smurfs.

Spending a 2nd on a third line pending UFA isn’t buying low.
The injury happened in a game. His bad play is from brain dead decision making.

 

[ManByng]

Happy for Frederic but losing Wanner, Lachance and a 2nd is rough.

I was waiting to see how long it would take for the Oilers to trade Max Wanner and here we are! Sucks that we couldn’t get an experienced d-man with term in return but whatever. I would have loved this trade more if Frederic was not injured !

 

[brentashton]

Gonna wait to judge this move, on Friday, when the totality of all trade deadline and roster machinations are complete.

Looking at these moves in individual views is incomplete.

Let’s see what else they have up their sleeves. A lot more holes to plug yet.