Proposal: Edmonton/Columbus
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I don't mind the looks of it . Hate to part with either player from Edmonton but at the same time I like to add both players mention . We could also include Fayne for something /Cap dump around the same money to be a stop gap for a season or 2 ( 2 years left on his contract counting this one )
This trade has no basis because of the incorrect assumption of who the Jackets protect. There's essentially no circumstance that would leave Jenner or even Savard unprotected. I wouldn't make this trade regardless of that either.
Jackets will protect Jenner. That's the bottom line. No chance he's left unprotected, end of discussion. Now, if you're still interested in Savard, a more realistic counter proposal:
Dubinsky+Savard for RNH+Fayne
Dubinsky+Savard for RNH+Fayne
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I think Columbus goes the 7-3-1 route and leaves Johnson exposed.
That being said the value favours Edmonton by quite a bit.
I know most CLB fans won't consider Jones to be much of a prospect but this kid has been developing very well. Had a terrific season last year and has had a great start to his season this year. In a poll of head coaches in the WHL he was rated as one of the best defensemen in the league.
That being said the value favours Edmonton by quite a bit.
I know most CLB fans won't consider Jones to be much of a prospect but this kid has been developing very well. Had a terrific season last year and has had a great start to his season this year. In a poll of head coaches in the WHL he was rated as one of the best defensemen in the league.
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I would do Jenner + Savard for Draisatl + Fayne or a cap dump (not Caleb Jones), but I don't think I'd consider it for RNH.
I don't think Drai is available at all, though, so it's a moot point.
Not a bad proposal, I like RNH and think the Jackets need to upgrade their center position, but idk if Jenner + Savard for RNH + Jones is the trade I'd do. We will have to see how things play out down the line. I think RNH's value around the league goes up as he shows his ability to play a well rounded game.
I don't think Drai is available at all, though, so it's a moot point.
Not a bad proposal, I like RNH and think the Jackets need to upgrade their center position, but idk if Jenner + Savard for RNH + Jones is the trade I'd do. We will have to see how things play out down the line. I think RNH's value around the league goes up as he shows his ability to play a well rounded game.
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Viqsi
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I consider Caleb to be a really nice prospect. I've just not been in any rush to comment on same because I'm sure that the instant any of us dare try to do so we'd all get flooded with proposals by the Lunatic Fringe division of the Oil fanbase calling on us to "reunify the Jones brothers" with stuff like, oh, Jones for Dubois or similarly absurd nonsense. And that wouldn't make anyone here happy (well, except maybe the aforementioned lunatics, but they annoy us and embarrass y'all so who cares what they think
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Not enough going to Columbus. Nuge and Jenner are roughly a wash (argue as to who has more value if you like, but they aren't far off), which leaves Savard for Jones. As much as I like Jones, that's not even close to a fair deal. The 4th doesn't add enough value to alter anything.
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Change the 4th to a 1st and the Jackets still probably say no. I don't think Jenner is available, but something around RNH and Savard might work well for both teams if Werenski is the real deal.
Id do RNH for Savard and a 2nd if the Oilers could trade Reinhart for a legit 3C in a separate deal.
Id do RNH for Savard and a 2nd if the Oilers could trade Reinhart for a legit 3C in a separate deal.
I still believe that RNH is the best, and most valuable piece in that deal. I think Savard and Jenner are very nice pieces, but to me, if the Oilers move RNH, plus a solid young D prospect like Jones, I want them to fill a real need. The Oilers' biggest need is an offensive RHD that QB our PP. I don't see Savard as that guy. The deal in terms of value isn't that far off, I do like it better from CBJ, but it is close. Jones isn't garbage, him and his brother could end up being something special.
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Sorry, but don't even ask for Draisaitl unless Werenski or Jones is being mentioned... and it appears that CBJ posters do not want to include them (and I understand why), so you might as well consider this a 'no' for all Draisaitl offers.
Play around all you like with any forwards not named Draisaitl or McDavid or any Dmen not named Klefbom or Larsson. Any offers for McDavid are an obvious 'no'. If you are mentioning any of the other 3 names it would have to be significant over payment for packages (multiple lesser players) or players that you absolutely do not want to trade.
Play around all you like with any forwards not named Draisaitl or McDavid or any Dmen not named Klefbom or Larsson. Any offers for McDavid are an obvious 'no'. If you are mentioning any of the other 3 names it would have to be significant over payment for packages (multiple lesser players) or players that you absolutely do not want to trade.
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I could get behind that idea, not sure CBJ would though. Dubie seems better suited for the role Nuge is playing (shutdown C), Nuge seems better suited for Dubie's role (top 6 two way C).
Maybe if we add a pick/prospect from the Oil?
If Blue Jackets fans are really unhappy with their lineup, there's a pretty good chance management isn't pleased with it either. I'm not sure of the dynamics in Columbus which is why I asked.
If you've got a big whole in your lineup, the team is losing and management/coaches are on the hot seat, maybe the Blue Jackets would be more willing to make a splashy move that fixes the big glaring hole.
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There's a huge, huge difference between "unsatisfied enough to be considering a move" and "desperate and willing to lose vital parts to try to make something happen".
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I like the idea here.
Dubinsky and Savard both fit the needs for the Oilers. As said, you could likely bleed a little more out of Edmonton as the difference between RNH and Dubinsky is a bit less than Fayne and Savard. Though Dubinsky's contract is a big pill/risk to swallow, so maybe not.
Though the thought of Pouliot and Dubinsky in the same lineup (along with Lucic and Kassian) gives me a slight brain animism due to the # of dumb penalties that will occur.
The big thing I don't like here though is the fact Edmonton will need to give up a good player to what's going to be a division rival. (Maroon or Dubinsky, neither I look forward to playing against).
Maroon-McDavid-Eberle
Lucic-Draisaitl-Slepyshev
Pouliot-Dubinsky-Kassian (this could be fun for all the right, or wrong, reasons
Klefbom-Larsson
Sekera-Savard
Davidson-Russell
That's a good looking top 9 and 6, and I guess Khaira could step into the void left after the expansion draft.
As a Jackets fan, let me say that I think we're really close to something here, but the value has to be corrected.
Protected spots is a non-issue, I agree. But the basis is that RNH is a better skilled distributor than Jenner. We have enough wingers, we need a center. And Savard would presumably be more needed in Edmonton.
On value, we've got to fix it up. But does it make the Jackets better? It might.
The more equal value deal had Dubinsky + Savard for RNH + Fayne. Jenner, at his age and contract, is too good of a value to put along with a top 4 RHD. We'd need a lot more coming back or Jenner switched with Dubinsky.
I think Jackets fans would love to add Caleb Jones ("Little Jones"). He is a serious prospect, no doubt.
The issue is our team is facing the "too young" problems and adding prospects is a low priority. We need some key pieces in place to turn the corner. If we were starting a rebuild now it would be different.
Protected spots is a non-issue, I agree. But the basis is that RNH is a better skilled distributor than Jenner. We have enough wingers, we need a center. And Savard would presumably be more needed in Edmonton.
On value, we've got to fix it up. But does it make the Jackets better? It might.
The more equal value deal had Dubinsky + Savard for RNH + Fayne. Jenner, at his age and contract, is too good of a value to put along with a top 4 RHD. We'd need a lot more coming back or Jenner switched with Dubinsky.
I think Jackets fans would love to add Caleb Jones ("Little Jones"). He is a serious prospect, no doubt.
The issue is our team is facing the "too young" problems and adding prospects is a low priority. We need some key pieces in place to turn the corner. If we were starting a rebuild now it would be different.
Jackets can do that.
I'd mention him. We have two other future top pair. It would have to be close to a one-for-one, and I'd need a thorough psychological examination first (on myself, not Drai).
You probably don't have to. He's 30. I'm pretty sure his trade value isn't that high.
If it's only a bit less it's entirely because of the age difference. In terms of recent years play Dubinsky and RNH alternate in effectiveness. I don't think that's the case when comparing a frequent scratch to a second pair D.
