For someone who keeps posting wanting Broberg you sure aren’t offering up anything enticing.
Think of it this way. What would it take for you move Broberg if your Rangers had him and we came calling you for him?
No Buch++ for Broberg
we’d want Broberg+ for Kakko
Thank you for the clear clarification.
As noted below, your vote represents several, but it is not monolithic with one voice.
We are not moving Kakko even if you add.
It is a fair ? to ask if the shoe is on the proverbial other foot, what would I ask for?
The answer is not in a vacuum, it depends.
- current status of D corp, including LDs
- other imminent prospects/knocking on the door and if knocking how far away
- balance of team situation
- what do Oil have to offer?
Some questions can do a simplified answer; some cannot.
While I appreciate those who in good faith want to upgrade NYR LD, and improve Oiler W/cap, we are not making any stupid moves that screw us short term w/the exp dr.
Cap is another question entirely that we may/may not be able to accommodate.
Disagree this is not even remotely close to a guy who is 8OA and w/elcs but unproven.
Note the flip side of the coin expressed below...
I actually don’t mind this deal, and I’m a huge Broberg fan. No doubt, we could easily lose this trade if Broberg becomes a Hampus Lindholm caliber player (which is a fair projection), but I think that’s still 2 years away at the very earliest.
I think Buch could slot in on one wing alongside McDavid. Howden still has upside and could be a 3C with further development. The pick would be around 24th OA, could flip that + B prospect to target a cap casualty - maybe Schwartz in St.Louis if they’re clearing space to re-sign Pietrangelo?
I would be very happy with a top 6 next year of:
Schwartz-McD-Buch
Nuge-Drai-Yamamoto
And the only thing we’ve subtracted from the current roster is James Neal?
Sign me up.
May I emphasize NYR do not want Neal, but this is a concession to give you instant cap, a balance if you will for the elc exp drft exempt contract.
Anything REASONABLE along those lines can work, open to small modifications if that floats your boat a bit.
Oilers fans are very confused right now and outside of McDavid and Drai we have no idea how this organization values anyone.
We were told a week into camp that Philip Broberg had "passed" Bouchard on the depth chart, even though they don't play on the same side of the ice.
We signed Kassian to 4X3.2, and the scribes praised his heart and drive, only for him to completely no-show the playoffs.
We get told that Smith is better than Koskinen, because Smith "Battles", even though there's a 15 point difference in their save percentages.
John Shannon said yesterday that Caleb Jones "really struggled" against the Blackhawks, even though he tilted the ice so overwhelmingly positively he broke the damn scale.
Fans would probably consider your deal, but the Mouth of Sauron (Bob Stauffer, employed by the Oilers, hosts a two hour radio show every weekday about the Oilers, and routinely has his opinions provided to him by the organization which he then parrots on the radio) had something along these lines to say yesterday:
"If Nurse continues to grow, maybe we'll be talking about him as a Hall of Fame defenceman".
This is clearly insane, but it might give some insight as to how the Oilers see Nurse.
Insightful and informative.
You have my sympathies.
That said, in this instance, we should be able to collaborate.
You have ample LD, but NY only interested in Broberg. If you deal him, you take away from your reserve, but you are not subtracting from current roster (as
@Roof Daddy noted).
Buch is a productive add, and Neal a productive subtract.
Howden likely good enough to make the 7 you keep protected for exp drt.
Anyhoo, would love to nail this down with consensus one way or the other so I know how other deals may proceed.
Oiler nation, pls advise, but let's do a new thread.
No hijacking.
This one is still Buch/+ for Nurse/+
