Proposal: EDM - NYR - Minny

[Canada4Gold]

So which Staal is Edmonton getting here?

presumably Marc since I'm not sure how they "continue to improve their blueline" by getting 2 forwards

 

[Sempiternal]

Ya cuz 3 way deals are common. Yawn.

 

[King1s]

Interesting proposal. Hoe about we adjust it a bit.

Rangers get:
Ference
Pomminville
Letestu

Wild get:
Stepan
Kreider

Oilers get:
McDonagh
Zucker

 

[One Winged Angel]

Interesting proposal. Hoe about we adjust it a bit.

Rangers get:
Ference
Pomminville
Letestu

Wild get:
Stepan
Kreider

Oilers get:
McDonagh
Zucker

Sure, with Connor McDavid is going to NYR.

 

[McSuper]

Staal and Poms are winning culture? I think the proper term for this proposal is delusional.

McDonagh and Lundqvist would provide some winning culture.

As an Oiler fan I have to disagree .

Every time Staal or Poms steps on the ice and get paid it a win Just not for the team

I guess they can teach the young guys how to win a boat load of money when they have become has been

 

[Blitzago*]

Sure, with Connor McDavid is going to NYR.

Wrong, His proposal looks spot on and fair to me.

 

[garyturner3]

Strictly looking at this from Edmonton's POV, this is unbelievably bad. Not sure why the OP continues to try and justify it because it's got to be obvious to him. I'm not an Oilers fan either.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Wrong, His proposal looks spot on and fair to me.

Edit: didn't see sarcasm icon, early morning for me with not enough sleep.

 

[Rufus]

Edmonton gets FLEECED and that's an understatement

 

[vipernsx]

Staal and Poms are winning culture? I think the proper term for this proposal is delusional.

McDonagh and Lundqvist would provide some winning culture.

Both have worn letters on their jerseys and when McD is out, Staal where's one for NY. Pomi had the C in Buffalo before leaving. Both have been to the 3rd round multiple times. Staal has been to the finals. And unlike Richards, they can both still play.

Other than Lucic, who on Edmonton has that kind of leadership and experience?

How many cups do Staal and Pominville have again? The same number as RNH and Yak you say?

Staal has 92 games of playoff experience at 29. There's a reason why Edmonton paid Lucic 6m a year and will continue to do so deep into his 30s because other than him, how many players do you need to add up to equal Staals PO experience?

We also gut our currently strong center depth in this deal for a past his prime winger and a downward trending LHD that doesn't bring offense to the table.

I had thought it was a good thing to change Edmonton's personnel from a group of guys who were only successful at winning lottery picks. On NHL radio, Boomer keeps talking about the "Losing Culture" in Edmonton and how Hall, RNH, Yakupov, and Eberle all need to be purged. McJesus is different than all the other 1st overalls and lottery picks so maybe he changes their world single handedly.

 

[vipernsx]

As an Oiler fan I have to disagree .

Every time Staal or Poms steps on the ice and get paid it a win Just not for the team

Pominville was a key component to a line that pushed Minny into the playoffs. While their team was ousted in the 1st round, Pomi played well throughout the series.

I guess they can teach the young guys how to win a boat load of money when they have become has been

Nah RNH can teach them how to do it by being a never-been.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Pominville was a key component to a line that pushed Minny into the playoffs. While their team was ousted in the 1st round, Pomi played well throughout the series.

Shhhhh. Let it go under the radar.

 

[spaghtti]

this is so one sided it should be considered outlandish and I am shocked it is still open

 

[VainGretzky]

Is this a a joke when I 1st read it I thought bermeister posted it. A broken down Dman who is overpaid and a winger entering his twilight years for to players under 25 who have lots nhl life left. You should be ashamed OP horrible.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Both have worn letters on their jerseys and when McD is out, Staal where's one for NY. Pomi had the C in Buffalo before leaving. Both have been to the 3rd round multiple times. Staal has been to the finals. And unlike Richards, they can both still play.

Other than Lucic, who on Edmonton has that kind of leadership and experience?


Staal has 92 games of playoff experience at 29. There's a reason why Edmonton paid Lucic 6m a year and will continue to do so deep into his 30s because other than him, how many players do you need to add up to equal Staals PO experience?

I had thought it was a good thing to change Edmonton's personnel from a group of guys who were only successful at winning lottery picks. On NHL radio, Boomer keeps talking about the "Losing Culture" in Edmonton and how Hall, RNH, Yakupov, and Eberle all need to be purged. McJesus is different than all the other 1st overalls and lottery picks so maybe he changes their world single handedly.

We paid Lucic because he is a very rare combination of skill and ass kicker rolled into one. The rest is just gravy. His leadership will be huge but that wasn't his biggest selling point.

Well I'm pretty sure that guys like Sekera, Pouliot, Maroon, Fayne and Hendricks have some playoff experience under their belts besides Lucic. We have needs on our team and Pominville and Staal are not it, if you can't understand that that is not my problem. Give us something that we could use like a top pairing defenseman, an offensive defenseman (preferably RH with a big shot) and then we can talk about dealing an asset like RNH.

Like I give a flying **** what someone named Boomer says about the team that I have followed in great detail for 2 decades. RNH was never the problem in Edmonton, he's the only one of the pre-McDavid #1's that could find his own end without the use of a map. Todd McLellan says that RNH reminds him of a young Joe Pavelski, but hey we're getting a 33? year old RWer when we already have Eberle and this kid that we just drafted that many had ranked as the #3 prospect in this past draft in Puljujarvi on the RW. We also have the capability of playing Draisaitl on the RW and keeping RNH at center. We also have Yak so that's no less than 4 top 9 RW options that we have, 2 of which are on ELC's and the other at a $2.5 million cap hit.

So now let's look at Staal. On LD we have:

Klefbom and Sekera as legit top 4 options

Davidson, Nurse and Reinhart as legit bottom pairing options with top 4 upsides.

But hey let's add Staal!

It's ironic that most non Oilers fans see this proposal for what it is, a piss poor return for the Oilers yet you feel the need to tell them and funnier yet tell Oilers fans how it's good for us. This deal blows for us no matter how hard you try you can't make chicken salad out of chicken **** and that's what this proposal is to the Oilers, a big bowl of ****.

Proposals are great, it's part of what this board is about, but maybe take a step back and look at it again when so many people are calling it garbage instead of trying to belittle our players because they have been on a **** team. The basis of good proposals are filling both or in this case all 3 teams needs, you failed horribly in considering the Oilers team needs on this one.

 

[victor]

Nah RNH can teach them how to do it by being a never-been.

Horrifically bad for Edmonton, then the OP proceeds to trash the player he was trading for.

Classy.

 

[snipes]

Nice joke.

 

[go4hockey]

Edmonton Gets:
Pominville
Staal

NYR Gets:
Dumba
RNH
Ference

Minny Gets:
Stepan
Yakupov

Edmonton continues to improve their blueline. Adds veterans with leadership and deep playoff experience. They complete their culture change by moving out RNH and Yakupov.

Rangers get move proven vets out for younger players and continue their retooling. Ference could be LTIR for most if not all of 16-17, 17-18 there would be cap savings, though Dumba's raise afterwards would expect to bring costs back up.

Minny gains a top line center and gets Yakupov to replace Pominville. While Pomi was great down the stretch and in the playoffs, hopefully Yak can turn his career around with a new start. Moving out Dumba gives Reilly a deserving spot in the NHL.

Guessing your a Rangers fan who needs to stay off NHL 16 when putting trade offers together. EDM get so screwed you can't seriously think any Oiler fan would like any part of this trash.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Coming from a Ranger fan, Edmonton clearly gets the short end of the stick.

They don't even get a stick!

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Nobody wants Marc Staal's leadership considering how useless a player he is and how crippling his contract is. No GM in the NHL would take Marc Staal without the rangers paying a significant piece to offload him, see: Bickell/Teravainen, Bolland/Crouse. Hilarious that you've made a lopsided proposal and have been trying to justify it since by propping up your players and trashing the player you're trading for.

 

[Stuzchuk]

ok, I uderstand that EDM have done stupid moves but this is beyond K. Lowe stupid... and he's not even there anymore

 

[One Winged Angel]

ok, I uderstand that EDM have done stupid moves but this is beyond K. Lowe stupid... and he's not even there anymore

If you're gonna go by that logic they should do it, being they just traded Taylor Hall for a 2nd pairing defender who will most likely never reach his draft status.

 

[Captain Controversy]

Really? Did you just propose RNH and Yakupov for players that wouldn't help?
Oilers do not get better with this trade.

 

[g00n]

Ok that's enough. It's lopsided. We get it.

Closed.