Confirmed Signing with Link: [EDM] F Jeff Skinner signs with the Oilers (1 year, $3M)

[benfranklin]

This exactly. For 3M you are either getting a reliable 3d liner, or flawed top 6 player. Reliable 3rd liner doesnt do much for the Oilers as they resigned most of the bottom 6 already and its pretty full

So this type of move is perfect. At best you get a top 6 winger for a low cap hit, at worst you get a player who doesnt work out and hes off the team next year

He is not a 3rd liner. Unless he has high end talent with him, hes a net negative player.

19-20 his linemates were majority Marcus Johansson, Vladimir Sobotka, Evan Rodrigues,and Conor Sheary. Shocker, he was on pace for 32 points that year assuming healthy

20-21 his linemates were majority Sam Reinhart, Victor Oloffson, Riley Sheahan, Casey Mittlestadt and Curtis Lazar. Shocker, he was on pace for 22 points that year assuming healthy.

Yes, you can simply scratch him and the $3M is no big deal, but point being those years Ralph Krueger felt he wasnt good enough defensively to play with Eichel or Hall. But then he is demoted and still in the lineup and costing you goals the other way.

Give him elite talent and hope he gives you more goals then he lets up or hell hurt your team. But honestly, Draisaitl isn't that much different of a player, but his high end offense makes up for the terrible defense and he is obviously locked into PP1, which Skinner likely wont see barring injury.

 

[McFlyingV]

He is not a 3rd liner. Unless he has high end talent with him, hes a net negative player.

19-20 his linemates were majority Marcus Johansson, Vladimir Sobotka, Evan Rodrigues,and Conor Sheary. Shocker, he was on pace for 32 points that year assuming healthy

20-21 his linemates were majority Sam Reinhart, Victor Oloffson, Riley Sheahan, Casey Mittlestadt and Curtis Lazar. Shocker, he was on pace for 22 points that year assuming healthy.

Yes, you can simply scratch him and the $3M is no big deal, but point being those years Ralph Krueger felt he wasnt good enough defensively to play with Eichel or Hall. But then he is demoted and still in the lineup and costing you goals the other way.

Give him elite talent and hope he gives you more goals then he lets up or hell hurt your team. But honestly, Draisaitl isn't that much different of a player, but his high end offense makes up for the terrible defense and he is obviously locked into PP1, which Skinner likely wont see barring injury.

Skinner has been a +30 goal differential the past 3 seasons combined at 5 on 5. The idea that he gives up more than he gives is just plain fantasy.

 

[VainGretzky]

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Give him elite talent and hope he gives you more goals then he lets up or hell hurt your team. But honestly, Draisaitl isn't that much different of a player, but his high end offense makes up for the terrible defense and he is obviously locked into PP1, which Skinner likely wont see barring injury.

Lol how to say you don't watch the player

 

[ManofSteel55]

Agreed on all except the PP. It's needed depth on PP1 for inevitable injuries, and along with Arvidsson the second unit is much more of a threat.

Agreed. If we have a potent PP2, we can also cut down a bit of ice time on PP1. Assuming Kane is out to start the year, we can start with the following PP units.

PP1
Hyman - McDavid - Draisaitl - Skinner - Bouchard

PP2
Arvidsson - Nuge - Henrique - Ekholm-Broberg/Nurse/Holloway (whoever works best there)

He is not a 3rd liner. Unless he has high end talent with him, hes a net negative player.

19-20 his linemates were majority Marcus Johansson, Vladimir Sobotka, Evan Rodrigues,and Conor Sheary. Shocker, he was on pace for 32 points that year assuming healthy

20-21 his linemates were majority Sam Reinhart, Victor Oloffson, Riley Sheahan, Casey Mittlestadt and Curtis Lazar. Shocker, he was on pace for 22 points that year assuming healthy.

Yes, you can simply scratch him and the $3M is no big deal, but point being those years Ralph Krueger felt he wasnt good enough defensively to play with Eichel or Hall. But then he is demoted and still in the lineup and costing you goals the other way.

Give him elite talent and hope he gives you more goals then he lets up or hell hurt your team. But honestly, Draisaitl isn't that much different of a player, but his high end offense makes up for the terrible defense and he is obviously locked into PP1, which Skinner likely wont see barring injury.

I don't think we care much about what Ralph Krueger felt. There's a reason the guy hasn't had any NHL success.

 

[McFlyingV]

Skinner the type of free agent signing that every fan would be excited about if their team got him for 3M, but instead they didn't and now everyone wants to drag him through the mud and pretend he isn't still one of the best goal scoring wingers in the league.

 

[Beerz]

He is not a 3rd liner. Unless he has high end talent with him, hes a net negative player.

19-20 his linemates were majority Marcus Johansson, Vladimir Sobotka, Evan Rodrigues,and Conor Sheary. Shocker, he was on pace for 32 points that year assuming healthy

20-21 his linemates were majority Sam Reinhart, Victor Oloffson, Riley Sheahan, Casey Mittlestadt and Curtis Lazar. Shocker, he was on pace for 22 points that year assuming healthy.

Yes, you can simply scratch him and the $3M is no big deal, but point being those years Ralph Krueger felt he wasnt good enough defensively to play with Eichel or Hall. But then he is demoted and still in the lineup and costing you goals the other way.

Give him elite talent and hope he gives you more goals then he lets up or hell hurt your team. But honestly, Draisaitl isn't that much different of a player, but his high end offense makes up for the terrible defense and he is obviously locked into PP1, which Skinner likely wont see barring injury.

Good thing Skinner is one of the best 5 on 5 scorers in league over last decade and doesn't rely on the PP

 

[benfranklin]

Agreed. If we have a potent PP2, we can also cut down a bit of ice time on PP1. Assuming Kane is out to start the year, we can start with the following PP units.

PP1
Hyman - McDavid - Draisaitl - Skinner - Bouchard

PP2
Arvidsson - Nuge - Henrique - Ekholm-Broberg/Nurse/Holloway (whoever works best there)


I don't think we care much about what Ralph Krueger felt. There's a reason the guy hasn't had any NHL success.

Youre not wrong about Ralph, but the point was Skinner is a very specialized player. I hope it works out, but Im betting against it and if magially Drais or Mcd get hurt and the Oilers miss the playoffs, Im 100000% blaming the Skinner curse.

Attached a bunch of cards for comparisons sake and what I mean by Draisaitl is useless defensively and thats not necessarily a bad thing, because he puts up so much O, gets O zone starts, etc. Didnt think the Oilers needed another guy like that.

You can have Nichushkin, but he literally will not show up for the playoffs.

Skinner the type of free agent signing that every fan would be excited about if their team got him for 3M, but instead they didn't and now everyone wants to drag him through the mud and pretend he isn't still one of the best goal scoring wingers in the league.

No quite literally posted here in the buy out thread to keep this guy as far away from my team as possible.

 

[Brookbank]

Who is available that is a significant upgrade on Skinner?

Bennington, Korpisalo, Desmith, Spencer Martin. Load sharing. It seems to me they don't have as much confidence in Picard as they should.

Picard should be given the chance to steal the job. Any backup should be given the chance to steal the job.

 

[benfranklin]

Good thing Skinner is one of the best 5 on 5 scorers in league over last decade and doesn't rely on the PP

In the last decade, sure, but so is Blake Wheeler. Since the pandemic, not so much.

 

[Brookbank]

Skinner is a .910 so far in his career. Over the past 3 years that has him tied with Adin Hill and Sergei Bobrovsky. Vasilevski is a .911 over that stretch. Demko is a screaming hot .913.

Those seem like pretty good goalies, 3 cups in the last 3 years in that group, and then…yknow..Demko.

But you’re saying the Oilers should tear everything apart to try to afford a bettrr goalie to guarantee their success? Any of whom who are performing at that level as UFas are making 10 million bucks. Tell me more.

Take punts on goalies that could theoretically steal the job.

 

[AvroArrow]

Skinner the type of free agent signing that every fan would be excited about if their team got him for 3M, but instead they didn't and now everyone wants to drag him through the mud and pretend he isn't still one of the best goal scoring wingers in the league.

Has there ever been a single player who's production went down when getting traded to Edmonton, to most likely play with McDavid ? We're talking about a guy that scored 40 goals, and 2 seasons ago was over ppg at 82 points, now potentially playing with the goat of this generation.

Huge addition for Edmonton, he legitimately has a shot at being a 90-100 point guy in Edmonton. He will get PP looks and probably will see a decent amount of time with McDavid.

Even if he doesn't produce that much, 3M you can't go wrong.

 

[Mogo]

Skinner the type of free agent signing that every fan would be excited about if their team got him for 3M, but instead they didn't and now everyone wants to drag him through the mud and pretend he isn't still one of the best goal scoring wingers in the league.

I feel like he's not what Oilers needed. They needed to get tougher up front and better defensively. Skinner does not help in either of those situations

 

[McFlyingV]

I feel like he's not what Oilers needed. They needed to get tougher up front and better defensively. Skinner does not help in either of those situations

Based on what? Their top 6 wingers not named Hyman scored a total of 62 goals last year while playing with the best playmaking centre in the world and arguably the 2nd best playmaking centre in the world. They have lacked top 6 wingers for a while with their only true ones being Hyman, Nuge and Kane who has been injured for large parts of the past 2 seasons. Even more than that they've lacked goal scoring wingers.

What exactly does toughness do for them up front? They are a strong defensive team and all of the numbers support it since their coaching change. Most of their forwards make up for what they are perceived to lack on the back end. They can still add a Dman at the deadline if they choose to.

I feel like you as a Panthers fan should understand why a player like Skinner makes sense for Edmonton after just watching game 7. That was an incredibly tight played game with not many offensive chances for either side. If you can add a player who can score on the couple chances you get in a tight game like that it can single handedly win you a game. The Oilers have lacked wingers with that type of goal scoring finish for a long time. Hyman and Kane do it by brute force and work ethic, but neither of those players is a guy who is just automatic if you get him the puck in the slot, and that's Jeff Skinner.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Has there ever been a single player who's production went down when getting traded to Edmonton, to most likely play with McDavid ? We're talking about a guy that scored 40 goals, and 2 seasons ago was over ppg at 82 points, now potentially playing with the goat of this generation.

Huge addition for Edmonton, he legitimately has a shot at being a 90-100 point guy in Edmonton. He will get PP looks and probably will see a decent amount of time with McDavid.

Even if he doesn't produce that much, 3M you can't go wrong.

Careful! You’re not being biased!

 

[NeverForget06]

Youre not wrong about Ralph, but the point was Skinner is a very specialized player. I hope it works out, but Im betting against it and if magially Drais or Mcd get hurt and the Oilers miss the playoffs, Im 100000% blaming the Skinner curse.

Attached a bunch of cards for comparisons sake and what I mean by Draisaitl is useless defensively and thats not necessarily a bad thing, because he puts up so much O, gets O zone starts, etc. Didnt think the Oilers needed another guy like that.

You can have Nichushkin, but he literally will not show up for the playoffs.

The McDavid and Drai cards you use here are at least 2 years old? The McDavid one has his last season as 19-20, the Drai one is 20-21...... so seems like you're just cherry picking here to try and shoestring together your argument

We get it, Skinner might not be the best defensive player. Luckily we have an otherwise responsible group of forwards.

In 19-20, the Oilers did not play defence. Times have changed

 

[Cup or Bust]

Skinner the type of free agent signing that every fan would be excited about if their team got him for 3M, but instead they didn't and now everyone wants to drag him through the mud and pretend he isn't still one of the best goal scoring wingers in the league.

He is exactly what the Oilers needed. A proven finisher that can score 20-30 goals at a low cap hit. Outside of Hyman the Oilers top 6 wingers have been pretty bad 5 on 5 for years now. Adding Skinner and Arvidsson addressed what was the Oilers biggest weakness in the Stanley Cup final.

 

[SwedishFire]

Skinner is not a puckhog.
If you play him on McDavid wing, he will score 50 goals.

Im betting at 38 - 42 goals. The first peruod is about to adjust to mcDavid incredible speed at playing the game. Just as Hyman had to adjust is first year to. I hope either Leon or McDavid finds chemistry with skinner, prefer McDavid, as Skinner would be a nice scorer next to him, but my bet is that Arvidsson fits McDavid even better, as he is just a pure smarter and effective player. I think the lines is best as

Skinner McDavid Hyman
Nuge Leon Arvidsson
Kane Henrique Lavoie
Janmark McLeod Brown

Me hopes for a McLeod that tried to adress his weaknesses.

Skinner has been a +30 goal differential the past 3 seasons combined at 5 on 5. The idea that he gives up more than he gives is just plain fantasy.

Statistics is not all, matbe ha was surrounded with A+ tonelite defensive players, and if not, as playing with a bad team, would end up as a big time minus player. A combo of Leon and Skinner would probably not fare well in own zonw.

 

[TheNumber4]

McD should just turn Skinner into the next Rocket winner for hilarity sake.

 

[Cup or Bust]

McD should just turn Skinner into the next Rocket winner for hilarity sake.

He made Hyman a 50 goal man. Made Chiasson and Maroon 20 goal scorers also. Skinner shouldn't have much issues scoring goals for the Oilers.

 

[Mikey71]

Hes so unique. Hes not tough like Hyman in front and hes not quite Reinhart chilling in the slot either. Hes kindof off in the corner doing nothing until it comes right to him.

Seeing as he will likely start out with one of the best passers in the world and if Knob changes things up will play with another one of the best passers in the world, me thinks the puck will be going right to him a lot. Contract year, his best shot at the playoffs /cup he has ever had, collectively the best linemates he has ever had, I think his results will be there in the end.

 

[Soundwave]

The McDavid and Drai cards you use here are at least 2 years old? The McDavid one has his last season as 19-20, the Drai one is 20-21...... so seems like you're just cherry picking here to try and shoestring together your argument

We get it, Skinner might not be the best defensive player. Luckily we have an otherwise responsible group of forwards.

In 19-20, the Oilers did not play defence. Times have changed

19-20 season, lol, why not throw in the 85-86 season too. In 19-20 the Florida Panthers were below the Columbus Blue Jackets in the standings.

 

[Kerberos]

But honestly, Draisaitl isn't that much different of a player, but his high end offense makes up for the terrible defense.

Tell us your opinions are full of shit takes without telling us they're full of shit takes.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Bennington, Korpisalo, Desmith, Spencer Martin. Load sharing. It seems to me they don't have as much confidence in Picard as they should.

Picard should be given the chance to steal the job. Any backup should be given the chance to steal the job.

Binnington would have been an upgrade, sure. But he’d cost assets and cap space.

I’d love to see another kulak type deal at the tdl for depth. But I think the goaltending discussion is over for this year barring a major collapse

 

[Beerz]

In the last decade, sure, but so is Blake Wheeler. Since the pandemic, not so much.

"Since the pandemic" ... way back in the time when you were inventing electricity in 2023...

He dropped 27 5v5 goals.

 

[Soundwave]

"Since the pandemic" ... way back in the time when you were inventing electricity in 2023...

He dropped 27 5v5 goals.

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2023 was ages ago though. Remember Netflix and Tiktok and classic old time cinema like Dune Part II? Wow that takes me back.