Post-Game Talk: ECSF GAME 4 - The officials throw The Bear off the cliff - Sunrise 3 BRUINS 2 - Panthers lead series 3-1

[bob77]

The rule on goalie interference in the Coyle situation comes down to this in the wording of the rule. Did the push “cause” Coyle to interfere with Swayman? They are essentially ruling the push “did not cause” Coyle to interfere with Swayman. It’s obvious Coyle and Sway get tangled up, and Coyle interfered Sway ability to play. It’s like the refs are placing the blame for the interference on Coyle, at least partially, at that he partially “caused” the interference. It’s like were Sway and Coyle going to collide at some point on that play even if not pushed? Bennet seems to push Coyle to get access to the puck. But does he push Coyle and “cause” goaltender interference? I don’t know. So much wiggle room in the wording of the rule.

 

[GloveSave1]

Heh. Monty still thinks he can get a payback game out of the league by being a good boy.

Ummm…that would have been tonight…ain’t happen’n.

 

[SPLBRUIN]

I still think there is fight left on this team. I had this team in a wildcard spot when season started. Monty is a master to get this team here.

Lady Byng Monty is gutless, dosen't speak up for his team when they are getting bent over by the refs.

 

[sarge88]

Elimination game. I daresay Maroon wasted his chance. Most teams go down without a "fight" in the elimination games to avoid the reputation of sore loser. Unfortunately.

Man….I’d suck at being an NHL’er.

I’d do all I could to exact revenge once the series was decided.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

out of all our missed chances. lorei not hitting mcavoy with that simple pass pissed me off. mcavoy had so much space tgere

 

[22Brad Park]

That he didn't punch Marchy in the jaw. POS!

Worst of it is he did it to Matthew Knies in playoffs last year exact same way and put him out with concussion and has suspension history

 

[RiverbottomChuck]

Which just may be why the NHL backs Florida, until the Finals when the rule book returns. See last season vs Vegas.

I will be interested if this is repeated again.

 

[Coach Parker]

You can probably say something negative about almost every Bruin in this series thus far. But reality is this is a team sport and as a group they have failed in this series for two reasons...

1) They cannot stay of the the penalty box. It plays right into the Florida Panthers hands the way they want to play. It's like a giant snowball effect. All that defending just wears you into the ground and by the 3rd period, they are getting run over both on the PP and 5 on 5. Even if you subtract the bad calls, they still have taken way more penalties than they should have against a team that plays like this. When your defenders (including Forwards) are heavily fatigued, you get the bad clears, bad break-outs, choppy exits, sloppy chips, turnovers, etc. The Panthers feed off that.

2) They simply do not have enough speed up front and finish from the entire group. They aren't fast enough as a group to push the Panthers D back consistently. They are holding their blueline very well since Game 2. Leafs D did the same thing in Game 5 and 6. When they dump the puck in but Panther's D get to it first nearly every time and have enough time to break the puck back out quickly. I don't care how big you are if the player and puck are already gone by the time you get there, it doesn't matter. See Maroon, Pat.

They've had chances but they don't have enough skill/shooting ability/finish. Most here knew it was a concern going into the season and into the playoffs, and it's rang true. They have only scored more than 2 goals in 4 of their 11 games thus far. Game 2 and 4 they had some great looks and could not capitalize. Wide open nets, pucks shanked wide or high. On the Bruins, Charlie Coyle stands out as one of the stronger shooters on the team. But watching others teams in this years playoffs his shooting wouldn't standout if he played elsewhere.

If you aren't built to get a lot of shots you better score on the ones you do get. Score one of those great looks in the 1st period of Game 2, and don't allow a goal with 0.3 seconds to go in the 2nd, and it's a different 3rd period and completely different game.

All that lack of speed and finish has given Bobrovsky a virtual vacation back there at times. Wearing down a 35-year old Bob was key to winning this series. Even if you go into Game 5 tied 2-2, if they had worked him over in the first 4 games with lots of zone time and more shots, it should pay off in the later games vs. our 25-year old goalie + Vezina winner back-up. Instead he's going into Game 5 fairly well rested having not had a heavy workload in the past 3 games.

The goal this summer ultimately has to be to improve this forward group so that it scores more goals. End of story. How they go about that is open for debate. Bottom line for me is they need a forward in his prime who slots in between Pasta and Marchand as this team's 2nd best forward. At minimum.

15 forwards have appeared in the playoffs thus far only 5 have more than 1 goal and between those 10 players with 1 or none, they have scored just 5 goals. Most say that in the playoffs, the top two lines/top 6 F cancel each other out and it's the bottom 6 F and the D contributing to the offense that ends up being the difference between winning and losing a series. If that is true, it's pretty clear where the problem lies. This isn't 1999 anymore. You aren't winning a cup by winning twelve 2-1 or 1-0 games with a couple high scoring games sprinkled in between. You need goal-scoring ability beyond just one player.

Good assessment. Just don't have the talent built to be a contender or compete with the top 10 of the NHL. Vegas and TB would have dusted the Bruins as well.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

They stopped calling everything because D-men were getting blown up constantly.

Not true.

They didn’t like that a lot of games were decided solely by power plays because 1 team would take a lot more infractions than the other. This repeated itself too often

 

[Gordoff]

This team has barely 1 serviceable center. Not like we didn’t have 5-6 years to prepare for bergy and krejci retiring. This is on Donny and Seabass

Remember when people here were saying "go after Bennett" when he was rumored to be available?!? Then Ryan O'Reilly IIRC last time FA available.

 

[TD Charlie]

they'll suspend him after the series is over

Aside from the usual praise the winner headlines on the website, i am certain the NHL won’t say anything about anything regarding this series.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

You’d think they view it at every angle since they should have access to every cameras feed.

I may have worded it poorly. The NHL absolutely reviewed it. No question. Which is even worse now with this released to fans.

 

[The don godfather]

Great opportunity. Just win next game.

 

[McGarnagle]

 

[TD Charlie]

The rule on goalie interference in the Coyle situation comes down to this in the wording of the rule. Did the push “cause” Coyle to interfere with Swayman? They are essentially ruling the push “did not cause” Coyle to interfere with Swayman. It’s obvious Coyle and Sway get tangled up, and Coyle interfered Sway ability to play. It’s like the refs are placing the blame for the interference on Coyle, at least partially, at that he partially “caused” the interference. It’s like were Sway and Coyle going to collide at some point on that play even if not pushed? Bennet seems to push Coyle to get access to the puck. But does he push Coyle and “cause” goaltender interference? I don’t know. So much wiggle room in the wording of the rule.

Coyle changed his angle completely after he gets hit in the back. It was a terrible call.

 

[GordonHowe]

In the words of the great Stevie Wonder,

Talkin' loud/Sayin' nothing

 

[NeelyOrr]

That is what Maroon should have done. He likely retires this offseason anyways.

No loss and really no purpose on this team. All I saw was a guy moving his lips and not moving anything else.

 

[BamBamCam]

I don't care if it was or wasn't goalie interference. I'm more pissed off it was Bennett.

 

[The don godfather]

Good will win.

 

[GloveSave1]

The rule on goalie interference in the Coyle situation comes down to this in the wording of the rule. Did the push “cause” Coyle to interfere with Swayman? They are essentially ruling the push “did not cause” Coyle to interfere with Swayman. It’s obvious Coyle and Sway get tangled up, and Coyle interfered Sway ability to play. It’s like the refs are placing the blame for the interference on Coyle, at least partially, at that he partially “caused” the interference. It’s like were Sway and Coyle going to collide at some point on that play even if not pushed? Bennet seems to push Coyle to get access to the puck. But does he push Coyle and “cause” goaltender interference? I don’t know. So much wiggle room in the wording of the rule.

I’ll play Devils Advocate:

The puck was loose in the crease…Bennett shoved Coyle to get the loose puck…he fell on a already down Swayman, who wasn’t going to get there anyway.

Problem even with this rosy take, is that I wouldn’t put a save beyond Swayman. He has to be allowed a chance.

At the end of the day, in a league that features “game management.” No way you let a guy that shouldn’t be on the ice because of your incompetence score there.

“Nope…no way…no goal.” Insta.

 

[RiverbottomChuck]

That’s and old video I think, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen it before the playoffs started unless the panthers hug refs after every game.

 

[Gordoff]

Are you kidding without him this team would be in the dark ages of dave Lewis days. He stays.

Instead we're in the dark ages of Jim Montgomery & Company.

 

[TD Charlie]

I’ll play Devils Advocate:

The puck was loose in the crease…Bennett shoved Coyle to get the loose puck…he fell on a already down Swayman, who wasn’t going to get there anyway.

Problem even with this rosy take, is that I wouldn’t put a save beating Swayman.

At the end of the day, in a league that features “game management.” No way you let a guy that shouldn’t be on the ice because of your incompetence score there.

“Nope…no way…no goal.” Insta.

It was an automatic no goal that they f***ed up

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

Remember when people here were saying "go after Bennett" when he was rumored to be available?!? Then Ryan O'Reilly IIRC last TDL.

I wanted Bennett and Virtanen (glad this didn’t happen due to off-ice, but his on-ice started looking good)

Unfortunately my trade proposals included Studnicka which apparently was an “overpayment” so a lot of fans here weren’t on board.

If only I had more support Sweeney would have saw my proposal and put a deal together

 

[frankiess]

So a different coach would raise the talent quotient on this team? Perhaps a better FO would be able to accomplish that.
Having said that I can only hope the FO can sign their best player J-SWAY. W/o him tonight the score would have been a whole lot worse.
No goalie in these PO's has gotten less support from his defense. Pathetic.

Florida is a dirty team. To beat Florida, the Bruins will have to beat them up. Is Montgomery the coach for that?