GDT: ECSF: (A1) Toronto Maple Leafs vs (A3) Florida Panthers - GAME 2 - 7 PM EST IN TORONTO (Mod warning, Post #70)

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Have some quotes of Leaf fans saying "it's all the media blaming us" ?
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I started watching hockey in the mid-1970s. There have always been fans complaining about how dirty a particular team is, even in the 70s and 80s when it was commonplace in the game. Then those same fans will defend their own team's players when others argue they are ditry players. It's just standard stuff. It's like whining about certain teams diving or faking injuries or complaining to refs...whatever, it's all the same. I think it's all irrelevant.
 
Actually that's invented narrative, by you. Fans have called out the plays that are dirty. Florida was hated before the series started because they've been doing the same thing for several years and generally the exact same players over and over again. They also put the cherry on top by acquiring possibly the player that most epitomizes said type of play for a solid decade.
Yes, they’ve certainly had some instances where they have crossed the line.
But, it’s also true that Many fans get twisted when the Panthers relentlessly check their team, and soon everything becomes dirty as the Panthers are mean bullies. It is what is, I’m just looking forward to more good hockey games between them.
 
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So if Woll has a good game does Stolarz go back in?

I'd assume so. Unless Woll posts a shutout or has a ridiculous 1 GA on 40+ shots kind of record. Stolarz has been their guy most of the season. I can't see them staying with Woll whenever he's back.

Hopefully, Woll can hold down the fort so they don't need to rush Stolarz.
 
Leaf fans act like Bennett took a full speed run at Stolarz from centre ice. Yes he hit him but every game has worse contact than that. You are just unhappy with the outcome.
The bottom line is that the Panthers are going to keep pushing the envelope and the Leafs better push back.
Well, one day a team, perhaps the Panthers but it could be another, where a player who has a history of head shots; will do something to a player that puts him out for a year, A savvy law firm will call that injured player and ask to represent them in a major class action lawsuit against the league and executives.

They will present to the court multiple instances in which the league did not punish a player for their hits to another players head. Maybe some cretin who dropped a player on their head during the playoffs which caused him to leave the series, or maybe an unsuspecting punch to someones face as they skated by etc.

The league is going to have their NFL moment at that point and it won't be due to their own benevolent willingness, clearly.
 
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And fans of every other team hated those Leafs players and called them dirty, and Leafs fans defended them. It happens with every team, every fanbase, every sport.

The league was also very different 20 years ago.

If we want to go back there then do it. So all the teams know what the rules are.

You can’t treat one team like it’s 1993 and the rest like it’s 2025
 
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Well, one day a team, perhaps the Panthers but it could be another, where a player who has a history of head shots; will do something to a player that puts him out for a year, A savvy law firm will call that injured player and ask to represent them in a major class action lawsuit against the league and executives.

They will present to the court multiple instances in which the league did not punish a player for their hits to another players head. Maybe some cretin who dropped a player on their head during the playoffs which caused him to leave the series, or maybe an unsuspecting punch to someones face as they skated by etc.

The league is going to have their NFL moment at that point and it won't be by their own willingness, clearly.

We just need to do this:

Look at how none of tkachucks teammates gave a shit about him.

 
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He didn’t look great in relief but I assume it’s him over Murray . Barring a miraculous Stolarz recovery

I mean, he came in after not playing for a month, no warm up, while his team was up 4-1 and the Panthers were pushing to tie it. This is after your goaltending partner goes from joking with you to being taken to hospital on a stretcher.

Basically the hardest spot to be put in for a goalie. He will be locked in tonight.
 
The league was also very different 20 years ago.

If we want to go back there then do it. So all the teams know what the rules are.

You can’t treat one team like it’s 1993 and the rest like it’s 2025
I don't think the league treats any one team differently from another. If anything, the league would inherently want to favour teams like Toronto, NYR, Chicago, Dallas, etc. - big TV and merchandising markets.
 
We just need to do this:

Look at how none of tkachucks teammates gave a shit about him.


Leafs just need to play the game right, like men. Hard, finish their checks, play the game to win not become part of the circus. Pushback against the little weasels who wouldnt dare do that to a man on the streets.

It is up to the league to actually do their jobs and be a league rather than some backwater cult. Thus, set the bar for what is allowed and not allowed.

Whoever the next Commissioner of the NHL is had better embrace the safety of player far better than what is happening today. I've been outspoken about dirty play for many years. I love heavy, hard hockey, and I understand a teams need to create a deterrent.

This deterrent is supposed to be the leagues job. It's not 1995 but they are operating as if the league has been frozen in time. They are allowing players to make a mockery of the sport. It's a circus with too many clowns in abundant supply.
 
This is Matthew Tkachuk against the Leafs when he played for Calgary. A reminder to the Leafs what type of people they are dealing with. Play your game and protect your goalie.

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