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I think special teams is a wash; or a slight NJ edge: Devils powerplay is great, Canes PK is incredible. Devils PK is also incredible and the Canes PP stinks.

The series will come down to 5 on 5 play, and that is… not… good news for the devils.

Devils can steal a game or two with their goalie. But it would take nothing short of a legendary goalie performance for the devils to actually steal a round
 
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I think special teams is a wash; or a slight NJ edge: Devils powerplay is great, Canes PK is incredible. Devils PK is also incredible and the Canes PP stinks.

The series will come down to 5 on 5 play, and that is… not… good news for the devils.

Devils can steal a game or two with their goalie. But it would take nothing short of a legendary goalie performance for the devils to actually steal a round
Devils are going to need to Rangers their way through a series to win. Incredible goaltending, timely goals, and win the special teams battle.

But yeah I just struggle to see how Mercer’s line or Glass’ line or whatever the fourth line ends up being can win their minutes. In Carolina, they’re going to be facing the top two lines of the Hurricanes. In NJ, Devils have to pick one of them to go up against Staal’s line with Hischier presumably against Aho’s.

Looking into this series just highlights the fact that the Devils really really need to beef up the middle-six going into next year.
 
bigly yikes brendan dillon
Not even low key, medium key, Dillon is not good. He’s borderline even “just a guy” currently.

I don’t even think he’s brought much physicality which is what was supposed to make up for his mediocre offense and “ok” defense.

I will wonder if both Casey and Nemec would have looked to have a better year if they didn’t play together or with Dillon so much of the time. I think Dillon makes everyone he plays with look worse because he’s hard to play with.
 
Just get me the damn date for Game 3. I feel empty seeing "TBD" for the date and time.
Not even low key, medium key, Dillon is not good. He’s borderline even “just a guy” currently.

I don’t even think he’s brought much physicality which is what was supposed to make up for his mediocre offense and “ok” defense.

I will wonder if both Casey and Nemec would have looked to have a better year if they didn’t play together or with Dillon so much of the time. I think Dillon makes everyone he plays with look worse because he’s hard to play with.
Dillon is the odd man out, he doesn't fit with anyone. I guess that he's there to stick up for guys, but we've already got other guys for that.
 
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Obviously rooting for the Devs to pull this series out of their ass somehow and I get some folks continuing to be blind optimists....but the Devs have been a bottom 10 (arguably bottom 5) team since Christmas. Even over the last 20 games with one of the easiest schedules in the league and playing many deadline sellers, the Devs rank 30th in 5v5 goal differential. For context:

32 NSH
31 CHI
30 NJD
29 MIN (mostly without Eriksson and Kaprizov, who have returned. They aren't going far regardless)
28 SJS
27 PHI
26 BOS
25 BUF
24 WSH (who had nothing to play for aside from padding Ovi's stats and rested some guys periodically. I do think Columbus could give them problems tho if they make it)

Canes are 9th.
 
30 NJD (without Jack, Siegenthaler and Hamilton who could have helped right the ship)
Added a blurb since you gave the other postseason teams an excuse

I reckon we’d have at least 3 or 4 more wins in the last two months if healthy. Still not a good 2025 but folks would feel a bit better if we were hovering around 100pts and not 90. But that’s how it goes
 
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Obviously rooting for the Devs to pull this series out of their ass somehow and I get some folks continuing to be blind optimists....but the Devs have been a bottom 10 (arguably bottom 5) team since Christmas. Even over the last 20 games with one of the easiest schedules in the league and playing many deadline sellers, the Devs rank 30th in 5v5 goal differential. For context:

32 NSH
31 CHI
30 NJD
29 MIN (mostly without Eriksson and Kaprizov, who have returned. They aren't going far regardless)
28 SJS
27 PHI
26 BOS
25 BUF
24 WSH (who had nothing to play for aside from padding Ovi's stats and rested some guys periodically. I do think Columbus could give them problems tho if they make it)

Canes are 9th.
What is your point here, exactly? Who are the blind optimists you're arguing against? Does anyone in this entire forum think the Devils are cup favorites? Is anyone confidently predicting victory over the Canes?

The Devils have been playing somewhere between Mediocre and Ass for most of the calendar year to date. This is not news! However, it is also kind of irrelevant! the Devils are not and should not be favorites, but they have a puncher's chance at winning because even a 7 game series is incredibly non-predictive in most sports but especially hockey.

So what's the end game of repeatedly being the *pushes glasses up* "Ahem, well, ACTUALLY the team you all root for isn't very good, so why bother even being excited to watch playoff hockey when they're just going to lose" guy. I'm not trying to bully you, I legitimately am interested in the mentality of running the "Devils Suck, you're all delusional" strawman schtick repeatedly in the interim between the matchup being set and the games actually starting.
 
In terms of scheduling, round 1 is slated to be played over a 16 day matrix. So it looks like every series will have 2 days in a row off at some points.

I'm guessing a Sunday start. Carolina plays Wednesday and Thursday, so I doubt they start them by having to play 3 games in 4 nights. Looking at the TV schedules there is only slated to be 2 games on Saturday. I'm going to guess those are going to be reserved for series with Canadian teams so Sportsnet can have the traditional Hockey Night double headers.

EDIT: Best guess for Game 1 is either 12:30 pm on Sunday or Monday night (one east series has to start on Monday).

They have no issues making the devils do that though. It was 2 in 3 but still much worse imo. They just came off a game 7 win straight into a new series on the road. They had 0 time to prepare or rest. The biggest bullshit ever. f*** that. Make the Canes play 3 in 4. Those games don't even matter and they've had months to prepare against us.
 
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Definitely a drop off between the 22-23 Canes and this years team, especially defensively, but the drop off between the 22-23 Devils and this years Devils is way worse, in my opinion.

I don't agree with that. It's only way worse because Jack is out, which tbf is maybe what you mean? With Jack, this year, this team is way better. Without, I might agree, but I still think they're much better as a team. The 2022-2023 was just a bunch of talented individuals running around, no semblance of actual team cohesion.
 
Added a blurb since you gave the other postseason teams an excuse

I reckon we’d have at least 3 or 4 more wins in the last two months if healthy. Still not a good 2025 but folks would feel a bit better if we were hovering around 100pts and not 90. But that’s how it goes

Healthy with deadline additions and the team would have potentially Game 1 at home and a legit path to the ECF
 
Just get me the damn date for Game 3. I feel empty seeing "TBD" for the date and time.

Dillon is the odd man out, he doesn't fit with anyone. I guess that he's there to stick up for guys, but we've already got other guys for that.
To me, Dillon is the only guy who embraces that role. MacDermid doesn't play and doesn't engage even when he does play. Noesen, Kovy, Cotter and Bastian will engage but don't seem to consistently do so and probably see it as more of a job requirement than a role.
 
That's why you split them.
It’s a good chance that happens but what do the lines look like?

Tatar/Sprong - Hischier - Noesen
Haula - Mercer - Meier
Palat - Glass - Bratt

I feel like that’s still an ugly looking top nine. I don’t have much faith in the fourth line outside of Cotter either.
I don't agree with that. It's only way worse because Jack is out, which tbf is maybe what you mean? With Jack, this year, this team is way better. Without, I might agree, but I still think they're much better as a team. The 2022-2023 was just a bunch of talented individuals running around, no semblance of actual team cohesion.
This team might play a more defensive style with a strong defensive group and goaltending, but that team has a suffocating amount of speed and quality depth that this team just doesn’t have.

With the exception of Hischier, Hughes, Bratt, and Meier, every forward holdover from that team to this years team has gotten drastically worse. If you compare forward to forward after that, it becomes even clearer how much better that forward group was.
 
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Canes are literally what this fanbase has been coping with these last 3 games. A team that has nothing to play for. They’re almost a 100 point team, 1 point off. Were a sub 90 point team 1 off from having the same points as the habs, a rebuilding team with a negative goal differential.

The last 4 months of Devils hockey.
Jan 5-5-3
Feb 3-4-0
Before the injuries.

Mostly after injuries
March 8-7-1
April now 1-3

This team has had issues before the heart of the offense went down.

Canes are capable of flipping the switch and have done so over the last month. The devils haven’t shown that in 2 years and haven’t played good hockey in consecutive games in months.

Yes, the flaws we’ve seen in the last several months are why this team definitely looks like a team not going anywhere in the playoffs.

Our 5v5 offense doesn’t have the pop it needs.

We lack an elite top pair. I was most hopeful when Luke/Pesce looked like one for a while and a lot of that hope slipped away when then that stopped.

Another key ingredient for a contender is an elite shutdown pair, and again, at one point we had that too. Unfortunately Kovy fell to earth and then we lost Siegenthaler.

But none of that changes the fact that last stretch of games don’t mean shit.

There’s a buzzy high if your team wins them, and it’s very unpleasant when they don’t, but those are just feelings.

A teams’ success in the playoffs is historically unrelated to any last minute winning or losing streaks. It’s like putting stock in the regular season results vs a particular team, which is also meaningless.

I wish they won the last few games but that’s only because losing sucks and winning f***ing rules. The results of a couple games don’t mean anything other than games 78-80 were not enjoyable.

Florida had like a 3-10 stretch from March into April last year

Yeah, that happens quite a bit.
 
Last Season, the last eight games for each playoff team:

Panthers 5-2-1

Rangers 5-3

Oilers 3-4-1

Stars 6-3

Hurricanes 6-2

Jets 8-0(!)

Leafs 3-5

Bruins 5-3

Avs 3-5

Nucks 4-4

Preds 4-3-1

Isles 7-1

Caps 4-3-1

Knights 4-4

Lighting 4-3-1

Kings 6-2


Definitely seems like an anomaly this year for the Metro teams. And it definitely has to do with how early everything was clinched and with the seeding being steady for the last three months. Also an indictment on how poopy the East is as a whole as @ZachaFlockaFlame mentioned

Yeah, top teams don’t typically have bad stretches but Winnipeg went 8-0 at the end and then went 1-4 vs the Avs in the first round.

And that series wasn’t as close as results suggest. The Jets won the 1st game 7-6 and then it was 8 GF - 24 GA in the following 4 losses.
 
Do you remember when Bratt didn’t block that shot during Game 4 against the Canes? Sent these boards spiraling. We explained the series loss to the Canes as group that was tired after a hard fought series against NYR, what’s next?

I explained that series loss by us only winning 1 game.

How is not making the ECF a mystery? 6 out of 8 teams don’t make it.
 
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