ECQF Game 4: Boston Bruins vs Toronto Leafs:, | 8pm, | SN

[Donuts]

Everyone knows they need better defense and goalie yr after yr they get bounced ..still leafs management hoping and expecting different results with same avg defense/goalie

Also doesnt help leafs core dont deliver in the playoffs

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Lmao Dwight King.. there's a name thats been a while

Don't get me wrong I don't think Bergevin is amazing. But there's a helluva lot worse GMs are out there still employed even.

That I can agree with as Bergevin has his moments.

As weird as it is I I Bergevin could have helped Toronto. He can't find the high-end talent, but he was pretty adept at finding good bottom 6 players and bottom pairing dmen, which is what Toronto needed.

Now, I think their spirit is broken. This team is looking defeated mentally. I'm not so sure it's just Boston, but rather playoffs and being down

 

[Caboose]

Pasternak is so f*ing good,

The players can care all they want ..collectively they aint that good a team.

They are good enough skill wise, i just don't see the desire to do whatever it takes to win. If they really cared about winning it would be a lot more evident. If the top 4 played with as much heart as some other superstars like Stamkos they might have a cup by now.

 

[goldenblack]

Curious how much push back the leafs have his period...

 

[Ducks DVM]

Ya im just trying to think who is the best dmen you can get for marner 1 for 1.

I know you want to say Fowler…

 

[ACLEVERNAME]

Is it just me or has this thread really 'ramped up' after that last goal. I can't keep up..

 

[AvroArrow]

Marner is just a giant whiner, reminds me of a leas likable Johnny hockey.

He needs to stop bitching to the media and just play well

You simply cannot win with him on your roster. He has never shown up in the playoffs despite what the stat watchers will tell you. I would not bring him back at 5M, not even joking, you just cannot win with losers like that. Negative mentality and piss poor work ethic.

Major changes need to happen.

Keefe and the entire coaching staff, Tavares, Marner all absolutely need to go

 

[Score08]

Ya im just trying to think who is the best dmen you can get for marner 1 for 1.

Carlo but you need to retain

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Not gonna be able to move Tavares, but the Leafs need to consider moving Marner (He's almost certainly available for trade if this continues), Matthews or Nylander

 

[Koivu11]

 

[Markster]

With the way they're playing, the Leafs won't get as much respect in the handshake line this year.

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

Is it just me or has this thread really 'ramped up' after that last goal. I can't keep up..

It’s gone 0-60

 

[Arthur Morgan]

whats the problem with this team anyways? is it them? if it Keefe being a shit coach? would as new coach even make a difference?

 

[OilWagon]

Everyone knows they need better defense and goalie yr after yr they get bounced ..still leafs management hoping and expecting different results with same avg defense/goalie

Also doesnt help leafs core dont deliver in the playoffs

They couldn't score at all last year or this year. They actually haven't let in that many goals last 2 yrs.

 

[Hunter368]

Curious how much push back the leafs have his period...

Agreed

Will they come out on fire and actually look like they care or will they just go through the motions again

 

[red devil]

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I know you want to say Fowler…

Unfortunately Marner is a worse fit here than fowler

 

[A55P2]

Everyone knows they need better defense and goalie yr after yr they get bounced ..still leafs management hoping and expecting different results with same avg defense/goalie

Exactly. You can always predict they'll make the wrong moves and then fail in the playoffs. I don't understand how they can't see it. Their management needs to go.

 

[TheNumber4]

So Bissonette jumped on the Leafs bandwagon for the views only to shit on them now?

 

[PaulD]

I could only imagine all the shit he's getting from Toronto media for being out with a 'headache' is probably causing a ton of pressure.

nah. everybody understands migraines.
Its Marner thats getting trashed for being junk.
When you are front page "INVISIBLE MAN" on your own cities major newspapers front page .....and you remain invisible the rest of the way??
Yikes
Somewhere Mike Babcock is grinning

 

[JKG33]

That I can agree with as Bergevin has his moments.

As weird as it is I I Bergevin could have helped Toronto. He can't find the high-end talent, but he was pretty adept at finding good bottom 6 players and bottom pairing dmen, which is what Toronto needed.

Now, I think their spirit is broken. This team is looking defeated mentally. I'm not so sure it's just Boston, but rather playoffs and being down

Oh I agree completely. Bergevin rarely brought in the sexy names but he had some great depth moves as far as players that play winning hockey. Those guys still had to get'r done in front of Price, and the Leafs certainly would've benefitted from those types a few years ago.

Unfortunately the core 4 are just too far gone at this point

 

[crowi]

Ya im just trying to think who is the best dmen you can get for marner 1 for 1.

Hagg

 

[TheOrganist]

This team should hire Craig Berube on Wednesday. This franchise needs some balls badly.

 

[Summer Rose]

What exactly was Brodie doing on the back-breaking goal near the end of the period? He looked completely lost.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Marner and Am34 nowhere to be seen