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Leafs defencemen are probably filling their pants right now. That Caps offence is just.....yeeeeesh
Okay, go look at Bozak's line, then compare it to the Cap's 3rd best line. That is what I'm saying. Toronto has more balanced scoring amongst it's lines, and if you can't see this I don't know what to tell you.
Ok, but why you call it 3rd line.Okay, go look at Bozak's line, then compare it to the Cap's 3rd best line. That is what I'm saying. Toronto has more balanced scoring amongst it's lines, and if you can't see this I don't know what to tell you.
In the playoffs the thing that matters the most is D and goaltending. We can absolutely compare those if you would like.
The Leafs "3rd" line is in name only. If we want to talk their third best line I would say Connolly-Eller-Bura match up just fine with Komarov-Kadri-Brown.
I will also take a playoff tested Johansson- Kuzy- Williams over JVR-Bozak-Marner any day of the week.
It will be exciting. I fully expect a growth spurt going into next season.
This is the best option for our development imo.. short term pain, long term.. you know the rest
Ok, but why you call it 3rd line.
Didn't watch Leafs games. But judging by stats they have three lines that play same amount of time (16-17 min). how do you decide what line is first and what is 3rd?
With the same result you can say that Bozak's line is first and it's not as good as Caps' first line. And if you consider Kadri's line as 3rd it's still more productive than Connolly-Eller-Burakovsky, but the gap between them is less significant.
Ok, but why you call it 3rd line.
Didn't watch Leafs games. But judging by stats they have three lines that play same amount of time (16-17 min). how do you decide what line is first and what is 3rd?
With the same result you can say that Bozak's line is first and it's not as good as Caps' first line. And if you consider Kadri's line as 3rd it's still more productive than Connolly-Eller-Burakovsky, but the gap between them is less significant.
1st is arguably Kadri. He plays the toughest minutes and is matched against top lines.
2nd is arguably Matthews. Other teams try to match.
3rd is arguably Bozak. Still effective but an after thought usually.
They all roll pretty evenly, and that was my argument is this might be a way that the Leafs can get some goals is by rolling 3 good lines and hoping they can exploit the time that the 3rd or 4th line is against one of the top 3.
Caps can't use the top 2 lines against the top 3 for the Leafs.
The leafs are absolutely stacked with young talent and believe me I will be watching them for years to come as I will with the Oilers... Bottom line... They cannot come even close to the D and goaltending with the Caps and when all the chips are on the table in the playoffs that comes at the highest premium.
I don't think Andersen is significantly worse than Holtby though.
Leafs D is underrated, but yes I agree Caps have much better D and I think it'll be evident.
I don't think Andersen is significantly worse than Holtby though.
1st is arguably Kadri. He plays the toughest minutes and is matched against top lines.
2nd is arguably Matthews. Other teams try to match.
3rd is arguably Bozak. Still effective but an after thought usually.
They all roll pretty evenly, and that was my argument is this might be a way that the Leafs can get some goals is by rolling 3 good lines and hoping they can exploit the time that the 3rd or 4th line is against one of the top 3.
Caps can't use the top 2 lines against the top 3 for the Leafs.
The point about Kuznetsov and Matthews was that Matthews line never had the puck. Part of that is Toronto's defensive play.
The NHL is a parity league. Any team can beat any team at any time. That said, the Leafs would have been far better off getting a point off of CBJ and playing Ottawa. This is going to be an uphill climb, for sure
I honestly wonder if Babcock isn't going to go 1-4 trap and try and play coin flip hockey
Andersen is a quality netminder; however, Holtby is elite and one of the only goaltenders to post 3 40+ win seasons in a row. Additionally when he hits the playoffs he goes into God Mode and has the best sv% in NHL history. The Caps have lost series with him playing only because the collective goaltending they have faced mainly Lundqvist and Murray would be good enough to be #2 all time.
Holtby's playoff stats: 46gp .938sv% 1.87gaa
Andersen's Playoff stats: 28gp .916sv% 2.34gaa(damn good by most standards)
Still youre forgetting that Caps have a way better 4th line than the Leafs. The Leafs have 3 players in their top 6 Komarov, Hyman and Brown producing around what two of the Caps 4th line players do with 0,44 to 0,34 on those 3 players while Beagle 0,37 and Winnik 0,35 are producing on the same level.
I showed you what the best 7 players on each team are producing, but it gets worse the deeper you look. The 3rd line of the Leafs definetly looks at least on pair or better than the Caps on paper(I question the Toronto 3rd lines defensive play while I know the Caps 3rd line is pretty solid both ways), but its not that weird the Leafs 3rd looks solid when your 2nd, 3rd and 6th most productive players play on that line. The question is what the top two lines can produce when most of the talent are on the third line.
Kiznetsov went 0-0-0, 1-3-4, 0-0-0 - Total 1g-3a-4p.
Matthews went 1-0-1, 0-2-2, 0-0-0 - Total 1g-2a-3p.
My argument was it is evenly matched, agree or disagree, that's fine. One of the games that Matthews never had the puck cause Kuznetsov wouldn't allow it, he still managed two assists.
I agree, I would have much rather play Ottawa, I don't like our chances, but I think they are better than some give us credit for.
Being fair to the Leafs, how many of those OTLs came in the early half of the season?
Kuznetsov's line playing evenly with Matthews line isn't good for TO. Checking back, yes, yer boy had 1 even strength assist in those last two games. He had 1 shot on goal in each of those two games as well.
I wish they would just drop the damn puck
The problem with the HBK line thing was that the Caps got no scoring from their bottom six except for Jay Beagle. Also the K in HBK. You don't have anything like that guy on your team other than Matthews.