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Js96er said:
Are the Lightning testing the Tampa Bay-Orlando Echl affiliation for a possible future AHL one
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Unless they feel that Syracuse is the best option to develop their prospects, much like the Vancouver-Utica setup, or they can’t convince one of the FL teams to become their affiliate, then it’s only a matter of time before Tampa moves their AHL team instate.

Orlando and Florida Blades near Ft. Meyers are their two best options if they do change affiliations. Convincing them to leave the ECHL might be difficult, though, since they are two teams who have historically drawn fans by being a competitive and more independent organization ala Fort Wayne rather than developing prospects and simply being a farm team.
 
Outback Steakhouse said:
Unless they feel that Syracuse is the best option to develop their prospects, much like the Vancouver-Utica setup, or they can’t convince one of the FL teams to become their affiliate, then it’s only a matter of time before Tampa moves their AHL team instate.

Orlando and Florida Blades near Ft. Meyers are their two best options if they do change affiliations. Convincing them to leave the ECHL might be difficult, though, since they are two teams who have historically drawn fans by being a competitive and more independent organization ala Fort Wayne rather than developing prospects and simply being a farm team.
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Florida's ECHL team is owned outright by whomever controls Carolina, Outback, THAT'S WHY the Everblades have existed with Carolina and wherever the top affiliate has ever been, currently Charlotte, it's highly doubtful to impossible you're going to see Syracuse transferred anywhere as long as the Crunch are owned by Dolgon....

Florida's NHL Team isn't going to be duped either after what transpired in 2015, as they weren't informed of their affiliation transfer to Springfield, and their past history with duplicitous owners, see Louisville/Elmira/Port Huron tri-debacle
 
Js96er said:
Are the Lightning testing the Tampa Bay-Orlando Echl affiliation for a possible future AHL one
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They have said in the past that the prefer having their AHL team close to a cluster of other AHL teams, to reduce the amount of time prospects spend traveling while in the AHL. An Orlando AHL team would spend lot more time travelling vs a Syracuse team. Of course they can always change their mind, and maybe that is one of the things they will evaluate with the ECHL affiliation.
 
Outback Steakhouse said:
Unless they feel that Syracuse is the best option to develop their prospects, much like the Vancouver-Utica setup, or they can’t convince one of the FL teams to become their affiliate, then it’s only a matter of time before Tampa moves their AHL team instate.

Orlando and Florida Blades near Ft. Meyers are their two best options if they do change affiliations. Convincing them to leave the ECHL might be difficult, though, since they are two teams who have historically drawn fans by being a competitive and more independent organization ala Fort Wayne rather than developing prospects and simply being a farm team.
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if Tampa wanted to have their ahl team close and the league wanted to create a division down in the south they whould have to convince Nashville and the panthers to come with them like how Anaheim la and San Jose ahl teams all moved to The west coast at once
 
Js96er said:
if Tampa wanted to have their ahl team close and the league wanted to create a division down in the south they whould have to convince Nashville and the panthers to come with them like how Anaheim la and San Jose ahl teams all moved to The west coast at once
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Creating a southern division is unlikely. Florida would need to join, and they've never been involved at the AHL level, to the point they weren't aware of the sale of their affiliate from Portland to Springfield. Nashville would have to be in on it and they've been with Milwaukee since their inception in '98 with it looking unlikely to change.
 
Actually, it was five NHL Pacific Division teams that moved their teams simultaneously: San Jose (SJ), Los Angeles (Ontario - replacing ECHL franchise), Anaheim (San Diego), Edmonton (Bakersfield - replacing ECHL franchise) and Calgary (Stockton - replacing ECHL franchise). Then Arizona (Tuscon) moved theirs. And Colorado (Colorado Springs - replacing ECHL franchise) this summer.
 
LadyStanley said:
Actually, it was five NHL Pacific Division teams that moved their teams simultaneously: San Jose (SJ), Los Angeles (Ontario - replacing ECHL franchise), Anaheim (San Diego), Edmonton (Bakersfield - replacing ECHL franchise) and Calgary (Stockton - replacing ECHL franchise). Then Arizona (Tuscon) moved theirs. And Colorado (Colorado Springs - replacing ECHL franchise) this summer.
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I forgot about Calgary and Edmonton the echl teams didn’t matter to the nhl owners though the new owners of Norfolk said the oilers never wanted to own the admirals they only bought the then echl condors to get control of the arena in Bakersfield for a ahl team
 
Js96er said:
I forgot about Calgary and Edmonton the echl teams didn’t matter to the nhl owners though the new owners of Norfolk said the oilers never wanted to own the admirals they only bought the then echl condors to get control of the arena in Bakersfield for a ahl team
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NOT EXACTLY, Anaheim was never previously an owner/operator, a strict affiliation, that's why they had to enlist Edmonton to allow the transfer to San Diego
 
still waiting on the Habs to announce their affiliation. Last year they announced it on Sept 14th, but then they pull all of their players from Brampton a few weeks into the season and only sent 1 player back throughout the year in Fucale who only appeared in 11 games. I thought it was very odd that they opted to bring McNiven up and keep 3 goalies as the 20 year old rookie needed playing time but was stuck behind Lindgren and Fucale but it was Fucale who got a few trips to Brampton. Makes me wonder if they weren't happy with something and if they will be back with Brampton or not.
 
Big Z Man 1990 said:
Unless Milwaukee were to actively pursue an NHL team with the new arena (which is NHL-ready)
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Bucks are blocking it, Z, the Disney shows might go to Fiserv

President of Hockey said:
Has there been any news yet whether or mot the Vancouver?/ Kalamazoo affiliation has been renewed for next season?
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the Wings are still listed with both VAN/UTICA.....
 
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montreal said:
still waiting on the Habs to announce their affiliation. Last year they announced it on Sept 14th, but then they pull all of their players from Brampton a few weeks into the season and only sent 1 player back throughout the year in Fucale who only appeared in 11 games. I thought it was very odd that they opted to bring McNiven up and keep 3 goalies as the 20 year old rookie needed playing time but was stuck behind Lindgren and Fucale but it was Fucale who got a few trips to Brampton. Makes me wonder if they weren't happy with something and if they will be back with Brampton or not.
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The way it sounded Brampton wasn't happy with the affiliation. There was something (a misprint?) that said that they were affiliated with Ottawa.
 
Woo Hockey said:
The way it sounded Brampton wasn't happy with the affiliation. There was something (a misprint?) that said that they were affiliated with Ottawa.
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Ottawa makes sense, should hear something in the next week or two I would think. I know the Habs have several players that they could send to the ECHL but not sure what their plan is.
 
Possible Greensville/Columbus affiliation coming
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