Eastside Hockey Manager - Part X Patch 1.5 Edition! (Open Beta)

xECK29x

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TBL v17 posted, basically a re-release of the October Pivot update with fixes. Thank you @archibalduk for uploading!

If you select the KHL as playable you cannot use the Russia start date, it must be July 2nd!

General Updates:
- Rosters refreshed for all playable and some non-playable leagues
-- I tried to keep European clubs as close to their start of season rosters as possible
- Added a lot more real junior players (through 2010 YOB) globally
- Updated Aggressiveness/Dirtiness/Agitation across the DB -- thanks Imactuallyanotter!
- Updated clubs/competition names and colors -- thanks Dani9!!
- Updated several leagues which was using the sort rule "Own Match" to determine points tie breakers. This sort rule has been found to be buggy in the game and has been lowered in priority, should result in some more accurate standings sorting. -- thanks Kywoo Rae!!
- Fixed many scheduling inconsistencies and incorrect priority values -- thanks Riz!!

International Updates:
- Removed World Cup and Euro Hockey Tour for now until it comes back for real to reduce the amount of international tournaments the game has to worry about and schedule
-- I tried re-using the World Cup by moving it to February to turn it into the "Four Nation Faceoff" but the game will not allow it to use NHLers.
- Loosened date placement to give more flexibility for the game to schedule tournaments, date placement may not align to real life but we need to reduce potential crashing and increase stability long-term.
- Updated Olympic Tournament dates -- thanks Weepy!!

NHL updates:
- Updated injuries, positions and jersey numbers from PuckPedia Depth Charts
- Updated dates of arena moves for Calgary and Ottawa (guess I was way too optimistic!)
- Relocated ASG to February 16th which should fix the issue where teams were getting rescheduled duplicate games -- thanks CJMattias!!
- Cleaned up RFAs
- Retired out LTIR players such as Ellis and Price
- Updated prospect pools based on rankings and season roundup scouting reports from EliteProspects (NHL Prospect Pool Rankings - EPrinkside)

Canadian Updates:
- Updated OHL draft picks, will eventually get around to QMJHL and WHL, it's a lot of updates!

French Updates:
- Updated U20 and U18 clubs and competitions

North American Updates:
- Cleaned up junior rights for players with 2004 YOBs
- Updated Alberta AA leagues and clubs

Russian Updates:
- Fixed issues with KHL structure by reverting to older version.
- Cleaned up some conflicting transfer rules causing issues -- may not align to real life, but we have to work within the limits of the game.
- Updated KHL Transfer Rules -- thanks Wolski!!
- Updated KHL salaries and award history -- thanks Angry Duck!!

Slovak Updates:
- Updated schedule and league structure for Extraliga - slight date changes needed to accommodate max length of playoffs
- Updated clubs and league structure for 1.liga -- thanks Džuradž for the report and testing!!

Swedish Updates:
- Updated affiliations, captains and rivals in SHL, HA and HE -- thanks Aahlstroem!!
- Updated starting injuries in SHL and HA -- thanks Aahlstroem!!
- Updated J20 Nationell clubs and playoff format -- thanks Aahlstroem!!
- Updated U16 and J18 clubs -- thanks Aahlstroem!!
- Updated HockeyEttan clubs, and league structure, some teams promoted to Ettan to make league an even 40 teams to allow for consistent promotion/relegation -- thanks Vik3tbotselektor and Aahlstroem!!
- Updated HockeyTvåan clubs in preparation for it becoming playable in a future update -- thanks Aahlstroem!!
 

Oddbob

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Used to be a long time player of this series. Just wondering, does this game still get regular game updates or is it pretty much just modders doing stuff at this point?
 

archibalduk

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Used to be a long time player of this series. Just wondering, does this game still get regular game updates or is it pretty much just modders doing stuff at this point?
Official releases are now very few and far between. The last major update was v1.5 beta released in April 2021. There were some minor beta bugfixes released, the last of which was May 2022. There's a further private bugfix build which will be released at some point but I've no idea when.

So yes it is largely modders at this point.
 

xECK29x

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Pivot (mid-November update) finally live.

Big thank you to this community for your understanding, patience and support in what has been easily the must frustrating stretch working on this project.

Massive change list (July -> November updates):

General Updates:
- Rosters refreshed for all playable and some non-playable leagues
-- I tried to keep European clubs as close to their start of season rosters as possible
- Added a lot more real junior players (through 2010 YOB) globally
- Updated Aggressiveness/Dirtiness/Agitation across the DB -- thanks Imactuallyanotter!
- Updated clubs/competition names and colors -- thanks Dani9!!
- Updated several leagues which was using the sort rule "Own Match" to determine points tie breakers. This sort rule has been found to be buggy in the game and has been lowered in priority, should result in some more accurate standings sorting. -- thanks Kywoo Rae!!
- Fixed many scheduling inconsistencies and incorrect priority values -- thanks Riz!!

International Updates:
- Removed World Cup and Euro Hockey Tour for now until it comes back for real to reduce the amount of international tournaments the game has to worry about and schedule
-- I tried re-using the World Cup by moving it to February to turn it into the "Four Nation Faceoff" but the game will not allow it to use NHLers.
- Loosened date placement to give more flexibility for the game to schedule tournaments, date placement may not align to real life but we need to reduce potential crashing and increase stability long-term.
- Updated Olympic Tournament dates -- thanks Weepy!!

NHL updates:
- Updated injuries, positions and jersey numbers from PuckPedia Depth Charts
- Updated dates of arena moves for Calgary and Ottawa (guess I was way too optimistic!)
- Relocated ASG to February 16th which should fix the issue where teams were getting rescheduled duplicate games -- thanks CJMattias!!
- Cleaned up RFAs
- Retired out LTIR players such as Ellis and Price
- Updated prospect pools based on rankings and season roundup scouting reports from EliteProspects (NHL Prospect Pool Rankings - EPrinkside)

Canadian Updates:
- Updated OHL draft picks, will eventually get around to QMJHL and WHL, it's a lot of updates!

French Updates:
- Updated U20 and U18 clubs and competitions

North American Updates:
- Cleaned up junior rights for players with 2004 YOBs
- Updated Alberta AA leagues and clubs

Russian Updates:
- Fixed issues with KHL structure by reverting to older version.
- Cleaned up some conflicting transfer rules causing issues -- may not align to real life, but we have to work within the limits of the game.
- Updated KHL Transfer Rules -- thanks Wolski!!
- Updated KHL salaries and award history -- thanks Angry Duck!!

Slovak Updates:
- Updated schedule and league structure for Extraliga - slight date changes needed to accommodate max length of playoffs
- Updated clubs and league structure for 1.liga -- thanks Džuradž for the report and testing!!

Swedish Updates:
- Updated affiliations, captains and rivals in SHL, HA and HE -- thanks Aahlstroem!!
- Updated starting injuries in SHL and HA -- thanks Aahlstroem!!
- Updated J20 Nationell clubs and playoff format -- thanks Aahlstroem!!
- Updated U16 and J18 clubs -- thanks Aahlstroem!!
- Updated HockeyEttan clubs, and league structure, some teams promoted to Ettan to make league an even 40 teams to allow for consistent promotion/relegation -- thanks Vik3tbotselektor and Aahlstroem!!
- Updated HockeyTvåan clubs in preparation for it becoming playable in a future update -- thanks Aahlstroem!!
- Updated clubs in lower level junior leagues and added affiliations -- thanks Aahlstroem!!
 

GagneHanson12

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I noticed in the newest Pivot it was temporarily removed, but do any of you guys have any idea of why my EHT in my personal modded DB (based on a previous Pivot DB I believe, don't remember which one unfortunately) is only running one year? I am planning on doing a new DB edit based on the newest Pivot DB, and will do my normal edits (expanding Ukrainian leagues and all that) and normally in the past tried to just change EHT from russia and then Switzerland i believe to Ukraine. Doing for the U20s four nations with switching in Ukraine, but last time it didn't work for EHT. I kinda gave up at that point but would like to try to figure out how to make it run year after year if possible.

From memory I believe I reused all of the entries for Switzerland the last time around, and just changed the names to Ukrainian ones. Everything ran fine the first year, but never scheduled the following ones.
 

xECK29x

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I noticed in the newest Pivot it was temporarily removed, but do any of you guys have any idea of why my EHT in my personal modded DB (based on a previous Pivot DB I believe, don't remember which one unfortunately) is only running one year? I am planning on doing a new DB edit based on the newest Pivot DB, and will do my normal edits (expanding Ukrainian leagues and all that) and normally in the past tried to just change EHT from russia and then Switzerland i believe to Ukraine. Doing for the U20s four nations with switching in Ukraine, but last time it didn't work for EHT. I kinda gave up at that point but would like to try to figure out how to make it run year after year if possible.

From memory I believe I reused all of the entries for Switzerland the last time around, and just changed the names to Ukrainian ones. Everything ran fine the first year, but never scheduled the following ones.
EHT is going to go back in the next update. I can't really answer the other question if you made changes.
 
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GagneHanson12

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EHT is going to go back in the next update. I can't really answer the other question if you made changes.
Ok cool sounds good, I'll wait for the next update and try my luck. Yeah and fair enough, just wondering I guess if you've run into that before. Never had a league (or tournament in this case) only run once then not again, other than this one.
 

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On track for a Pivot update before Christmas, got a lot more done then I expected. Also looking to release a "beta" version of the 93ish DB with a known issue we can't fix without Riz. It works well enough to collect feedback.
Looking forward for the 93 DB!

This Quebec fan is pretty hype ngl.
 

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This Quebec fan is pretty hype ngl.
Sorry but Quebec will be Colorado, its a semi-fantasy DB, 1993-94 season players/staff worldwide but 2023-24 league structure/clubs. I may change this in the future based on fan feedback though, but don't expect me to revert everything back to 1993-94.
 
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Dutronc

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Sorry but Quebec will be Colorado, its a semi-fantasy DB, 1993-94 season players/staff worldwide but 2023-24 league structure/clubs. I may change this in the future based on fan feedback though, but don't expect me to revert everything back to 1993-94.
No problem. I will adapt :)
 

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Pivot 9.3 posted, Happy Holidays!

General Updates:
- Latest notable transactions for human-playable leagues
- Updated heights/weights for players in playable leagues
- Starting further database cleanup of UFA players/staff, this will take several releases to complete -- thanks ArchibauldUK!

- Prospect Generator Updates: -- all credit to ImActuallyAnOtter and osososos to their research work and dedication to this!
- Near-complete overhaul of the Prospect Generator
GENERAL:
Across the PG, the level of potential ability has been increased to match recent drafts but the quality of players has been much more heavily randomized.
It will be significantly more difficult to find good goaltending due to the added randomization
It will be significantly more difficult to find players that correlate to existing Pivot attributes due to the added randomization
The long-term distribution of current ability will much closer match Pivot 2-4 years into a given save rather than what you see on Pivot day 1.

MENTAL/HIDDEN ATTRIBUTES:
The PG now generates ~50% of its players with random attributes, so they will look like "game regens" as opposed to prospect generated players designed to look like Pivot Day 1 players. The other 50% remain the same as the last issue, but with some minor changes only.
Determination has been lowered by an average of 5-7 points on a 20-point scale across the board.
Consistency and Important Matches have been lowered by 2-4 points on a 20-point scale across the board.
Loyalty, Fighting, Pass Tendency and Versatility are now fully randomized for all players, in addition to injury proneness and natural fitness which have been for some time.
Significant Updates to defensive role and offensive role based on recent research. Expect to see offensive role remain similar and defensive role to drop compared to priors.
Despite increased ability distribution, reduced goalie hiddens/mentals means you should expect average save percentages to drop to the 0.890-0.900 range to match IRL.

VISIBLE ATTRIBUTES:
Goalie Glove and Blocker attributes should be increased at generation
With the ~50% randomization, expect to find far less goalies with balanced attributes

ROLE DISTRIBUTION:
More balanced distribution of player roles
Expect to see some "archetypes" such as "High Physicals", "High Mentals", "PK Specialist", "PP Specialist" and "PIM Gatherer", which are introduced in this version

International Updates:
- Added Euro Hockey Tour and World Cup back in with some fixes. World Cup will go in 2024 with Olympics in 2026, should get a best on best with NHLers international tournament every 2 years.
- Updated WJC-U20 players/staff

NHL Updates:
- NHL Re-rates starting in January, nothing completed yet in this release, looking for help via fan feedback!
- Updates to several 2025/2026 notables

Canadian Updates:
- Updated several clubs/competition names and colors -- thanks Dani9!!
- Changed Junior Preference of CHL league contracted, NHL unsigned players to None from Major Junior. This should allow these players to also have the option of not extending with their junior team and potentially transferring to the NCAA or other College leagues. I have also set all CHL league contracts to 1.2.1900 which should default most to one year to allow these transfers.
-- While there is no guarantee this will work, its a good enough workaround until there is proper game code added to support the CHL -> NCAA transfer rules.
-- Any IRL player that has submitted for a transfer will have their preference set to College as I find them.

Czechia Updates:
- Added/Updates clubs and updated Czech Maxa liga and Czech 2. Liga structures -- thanks Matee!!

Germany:
- Adjusted PA ranges of IRL 13-15 y/o German players -- thanks kev26!

Russian Updates:
- Updated KHL staff

United States Updates:
- Updated several clubs/competition names and colors -- thanks Dani9!!
 

Treb

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Pivot 9.3 posted, Happy Holidays!

General Updates:
- Latest notable transactions for human-playable leagues
- Updated heights/weights for players in playable leagues
- Starting further database cleanup of UFA players/staff, this will take several releases to complete -- thanks ArchibauldUK!

- Prospect Generator Updates: -- all credit to ImActuallyAnOtter and osososos to their research work and dedication to this!
- Near-complete overhaul of the Prospect Generator
GENERAL:
Across the PG, the level of potential ability has been increased to match recent drafts but the quality of players has been much more heavily randomized.
It will be significantly more difficult to find good goaltending due to the added randomization
It will be significantly more difficult to find players that correlate to existing Pivot attributes due to the added randomization
The long-term distribution of current ability will much closer match Pivot 2-4 years into a given save rather than what you see on Pivot day 1.

MENTAL/HIDDEN ATTRIBUTES:
The PG now generates ~50% of its players with random attributes, so they will look like "game regens" as opposed to prospect generated players designed to look like Pivot Day 1 players. The other 50% remain the same as the last issue, but with some minor changes only.
Determination has been lowered by an average of 5-7 points on a 20-point scale across the board.
Consistency and Important Matches have been lowered by 2-4 points on a 20-point scale across the board.
Loyalty, Fighting, Pass Tendency and Versatility are now fully randomized for all players, in addition to injury proneness and natural fitness which have been for some time.
Significant Updates to defensive role and offensive role based on recent research. Expect to see offensive role remain similar and defensive role to drop compared to priors.
Despite increased ability distribution, reduced goalie hiddens/mentals means you should expect average save percentages to drop to the 0.890-0.900 range to match IRL.

VISIBLE ATTRIBUTES:
Goalie Glove and Blocker attributes should be increased at generation
With the ~50% randomization, expect to find far less goalies with balanced attributes

ROLE DISTRIBUTION:
More balanced distribution of player roles
Expect to see some "archetypes" such as "High Physicals", "High Mentals", "PK Specialist", "PP Specialist" and "PIM Gatherer", which are introduced in this version

International Updates:
- Added Euro Hockey Tour and World Cup back in with some fixes. World Cup will go in 2024 with Olympics in 2026, should get a best on best with NHLers international tournament every 2 years.
- Updated WJC-U20 players/staff

NHL Updates:
- NHL Re-rates starting in January, nothing completed yet in this release, looking for help via fan feedback!
- Updates to several 2025/2026 notables

Canadian Updates:
- Updated several clubs/competition names and colors -- thanks Dani9!!
- Changed Junior Preference of CHL league contracted, NHL unsigned players to None from Major Junior. This should allow these players to also have the option of not extending with their junior team and potentially transferring to the NCAA or other College leagues. I have also set all CHL league contracts to 1.2.1900 which should default most to one year to allow these transfers.
-- While there is no guarantee this will work, its a good enough workaround until there is proper game code added to support the CHL -> NCAA transfer rules.
-- Any IRL player that has submitted for a transfer will have their preference set to College as I find them.

Czechia Updates:
- Added/Updates clubs and updated Czech Maxa liga and Czech 2. Liga structures -- thanks Matee!!

Germany:
- Adjusted PA ranges of IRL 13-15 y/o German players -- thanks kev26!

Russian Updates:
- Updated KHL staff

United States Updates:
- Updated several clubs/competition names and colors -- thanks Dani9!!

Thank you for the Christmas gift!

Happy holidays!
 

xECK29x

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I am so excited to announce the initial release of NHL 94ish!

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Special Thanks to: ArchibauldUK for creating an entire tool (EP2EHM) just to help me with this project, without that this wouldn't exist! Jbo for the original inspiration with your 1992 DB, the TBL team who worked on the 1998 DB, flinch for his help on 2000ish, Kip for your testing and help with the expansion draft and future facepack release! Everyone who has offered support or testing, too many to name!

What is this?

A 1993-94 start date database using 2023-24 Pivot as a base structure with a combination of Jbo's 1992-93 DB, TBL 98, 2000ish and modern 2024-25 Pivot! This is a semi-fantasy reconstruction of hockey starting in 1993, it has players seeded all the way through the 2027 NHL draft. It does not use the Prospect Generator as the database should be well seeded by the time you get to 2024-25.

The NHL has been semi-modernized as a 28 team league, I brought some franchise expansions forward (Minnesota and Columbus) Kip helped perform fantasy drafts for both teams using the 1992 Expansion rules. We also selected good starter staff for both teams.

This is a complete recreation (semi-accurate to the best of my ability) of hockey world-wide for the 1993-94 season. I took a lot of creative liberties especially with the North American minor leagues. This has an immense amount of detail work done including full player statistics and team histories, especially for the NHL using the yearbook published before that season. I manually recreated NHL team rosters and depth charts based on draft histories and player statistics.

Salaries and team budgets have been modernized to match a scale taken from modern Pivot. This should be fully playable for any league, Euro leagues will have some empty teams and not a lot of hired staff at the start but should be enjoyable, this needs more testing and this database is intended for NHL FOCUSED PLAYS.

Why do this?

NHL 94 is hands down the best EA NHL video game and I wanted to recreate that feeling in EHM but not do a complete 90s project due to the amount of work and limitations for a longer-term sim. I loved working on the 2000ish project and wanted to have an earlier alternative to that.

Any known issues?

Yes, some. Team Canada may not field a roster for international play, Riz is assisting me on this. There will likely be duplicate players/staff I will continue to clean those up as I go through it. I've cleaned up about a quarter of the database to remove any fake players/staff, I still have a lot to go through.

What should we expect for updates?

I am not going to be moving/renaming any teams at this point or recreating leagues that existed during that time and have since folded. That is not the intention of this database. I will do quality updates and tweaks, I BADLY NEED FEEDBACK!

Happy to bring on anyone to help, if you have resources I could use to make Europe more accurate please send them my way!

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