Eastside Hockey Manager - Part X Patch 1.5 Edition! (Open Beta)

fredligh

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Do anyone have a "trick" to make scoring like realistic? for example in mulitple saves, connor bedard i barely ppg in the WHL, and if im not managing a NHL team with a crazy offensice tactic, the art ross average point totals hovers around 100 pts.

Next thing is especially young non-drafted players choosing to play for obscure teams, had a danish wonderkid, playing for rogle in the SHL, and in his draft year, he swapped over to the danish second division, even though, he is ranked at number 5 with a statline of 0.5 ppg in the danish second tier, (15 wrist shot, 14 creativity, good skating etc). I love this game, but i think players career paths must be looked into, i get that some prospects with low ambitions, might choose to be playing in the obscure leagues, but high touted prospects with great CA and ambition, should be seeking to best possible development route, like the SHL,Liiga,NLA or canadian junior leagues.
 

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Do anyone have a "trick" to make scoring like realistic? for example in mulitple saves, connor bedard i barely ppg in the WHL, and if im not managing a NHL team with a crazy offensice tactic, the art ross average point totals hovers around 100 pts.

Next thing is especially young non-drafted players choosing to play for obscure teams, had a danish wonderkid, playing for rogle in the SHL, and in his draft year, he swapped over to the danish second division, even though, he is ranked at number 5 with a statline of 0.5 ppg in the danish second tier, (15 wrist shot, 14 creativity, good skating etc). I love this game, but i think players career paths must be looked into, i get that some prospects with low ambitions, might choose to be playing in the obscure leagues, but high touted prospects with great CA and ambition, should be seeking to best possible development route, like the SHL,Liiga,NLA or canadian junior leagues.
That is what we are hoping the database rebalance will help with, may not get it right at the start but should help. Expectations need to be checked though, its a game basically from 2015 without any support.
 

Dirty Dog

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I drafted a pointman with great offensive stats (great everything stats), but the dude just does not score any points. Any suggestions?
 

abo9

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I drafted a pointman with great offensive stats (great everything stats), but the dude just does not score any points. Any suggestions?

Whats his hidden attri utes? Consistency, temperament, etc

Did he score a lot of pts at any level?

Seriously, I put more emphasis on pts than on attributes and it usually leads to cups.
 
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abo9

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Could be low offensive role, see Skater (offensive) here:


Sorry I can't see what you attached for some reason.
But I just find some players don't score much.

I experienced that for a few reason: low consistency/decision making players, "physical" (which might be what you refer to?) also seem to have problems producing offensively.

But, they make for great trade bait. A funny thing to do is trade a player with great attributes but garbage play to a rival team. Sometimes the rival team will start losing more because that player just isn't good in-game for one reason or another. Especially great with goalies, it's an easy way to get top picks.
 

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Sorry I can't see what you attached for some reason.
But I just find some players don't score much.

I experienced that for a few reason: low consistency/decision making players, "physical" (which might be what you refer to?) also seem to have problems producing offensively.

But, they make for great trade bait. A funny thing to do is trade a player with great attributes but garbage play to a rival team. Sometimes the rival team will start losing more because that player just isn't good in-game for one reason or another. Especially great with goalies, it's an easy way to get top picks.
Probably from the forum embedding, try viewing it on desktop if on mobile. here is the link (just remove the spaces https://docs .google. com/spreadsheets/d/0B2uDBhMLYiIGMV95NEhfNjNOMkU/edit?resourcekey=0-_Ku7jvXNVYljDxD8PCj5hg#gid=503146240
 
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The Gr8 Dane

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Hey , I got a question about the assistant , there is an option to reduce overall frequency of injuries , has anybody tried this? Will it mess up my file?

I know you can remove injuries or add them to specific players altogether but there is also a setting for overall injury frequency and I was wondering if anybody dabbled into it , pretty funny seeing all the type of injuries there is in the game and the actual % of getting them.

If anybody could shed some light on this it would be cool, the computer i'm using right now is way too slow to test it out through trial and error unfortunately
 

xECK29x

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Hey , I got a question about the assistant , there is an option to reduce overall frequency of injuries , has anybody tried this? Will it mess up my file?

I know you can remove injuries or add them to specific players altogether but there is also a setting for overall injury frequency and I was wondering if anybody dabbled into it , pretty funny seeing all the type of injuries there is in the game and the actual % of getting them.

If anybody could shed some light on this it would be cool, the computer i'm using right now is way too slow to test it out through trial and error unfortunately
It's something we've tweaked here and there, I did lower inj prone and upped nat fit towards the end of last season so depending on when you started your save you should have those improvements. I have not attempted to modify any injuries in the years I've been doing editing as there isn't enough research documentation on the values AFAIK.
 
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GKJ

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I actually would prefer more injuries. Not sure if that makes me a sicko but I like being challenged to test my depth. It seems like it’s impossible for me to have a goalie get injured unless I have 5 signed.
 
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Not sure if that makes me a sicko
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Treb

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In the current EHM buld, it's basically impossible to know if defensive anything is actually good (unless you go deep dive on the stats) as it doesn't follow the AR.

The rating is all offence, nothing else really matters.
 

BKarchitect

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In the current EHM buld, it's basically impossible to know if defensive anything is actually good (unless you go deep dive on the stats) as it doesn't follow the AR.

The rating is all offence, nothing else really matters.
Let’s be honest - the EHM engine is unsophisticated and ancient at this point. The lack of nuance in ratings and player usage and role types in team construction and the lack of a chemistry indicator/development system and ability to identify and have the game recognize balanced line construction and deployment is something that just cannot be overcome no matter how good the rosters are.

And yet for me I still cannot get over FHM’s infuriating interface and editing system so here I am lol.
 

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v8.0 of Pivot is posted to the Steam Workshop!

I am extremely proud of this release, it is the most complete and comprehensive release I have gotten out the door for July 1st!

Special thanks and credits to:
Riz, Archibaulduk, NoPurposeFlour, flinch, penguinrevolt, Matee, Seanie, IAmActuallyAnOtter, ChaiTiefling, Seanie, WearingComb, Vik3tbotselektor, manimal, Aahlstroem, Fabio, all the testers and the NTHL crew!

The database for this season has been completely re-balanced, with trying to get closer to the feel of the Default or TBL releases. I have also made substantial changes to the database based on community feedback with over 120 total responses, this can be found here: https://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20825. Thank you to everyone who provided feedback!

All playable and most background leagues have been completely re-balanced, with more changes still to come. I also greatly increased player history detail while completely removing histories from other areas of the database, this was based on player feedback and optimizing my time in putting together this project.

This is still very much an NHL focused database project, so expect some unrealistic ratings and such in Europe, we just don't have enough researchers to keep those leagues accurate, but we feel we are about 80% there with some tools Archi has built into the editor.

If you would like more details about what was modified to the database and how leagues now fit into tiers you can PM me. You can also look up the NHLe model (linked below in the change notes) and how they rank leagues, we align somewhat to that.

General Updates:
- Initial NHL Free Agent Frenzy release for 2023-24 season
- Complete re-balance of all competitions, clubs and players/staff
-- Competitions re-ranked based on recent performance in Continental play and NHLe by Thibaud Chatel (Rethinking NHLe)
- Extensive cleanup of leagues and clubs
- Reduced playable leagues to focus on NHL-focused simulations and game play based on community survey results from April, 2023. More info here: 2023 Pivot/TBL Database Feedback Results - EHM The Blue Line
- World Championships, World Juniors and Champions Hockey League all refreshed and updated, WC D3 and WJC-20 D2 now fully functional again

NHL Updates:
- Updated salary cap and other financial rules for 2023-24 season
- Making the LTIR guys retire early to give AI teams more cap. The EHM AI doesn't really know how to handle these contracts and they just cause more issues then they are worth.

To-Do:
- Manual re-rates and staff list updates for all playable European leagues, some ratings may be way off as we used an algorithm to perform the initial re-balancing. WE NEED MORE DEDICATED RESEARCHERS!!
- Fill out goalie statistics, the tool we use to pull data from Elite Prospects does not pull the detailed goalie stats so we have to do these manually.
- Continental Cup structure needs to be updated, its been removed for now.
- NHL re-rates
 

Doothpick

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Everyone who does the work to keep this community alive are godsends. Thank you very much and I can't wait to start up again after keeping the game in the backburner since last fall. I hope you know how much you are appreciated, even if you ever gave it up. The work you have done has been massive. Have a good rest of the summer @xECK29x and the gang!
 

raipeh

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Thanks for the DB update!

Out of curiosity: about how many of the drafted players were not in the DB? Did you have to create many?
 

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