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Eastern Conference Wild Card Watch

JianYang said:
1) In what world is 5 points not a monstrous lead with 8 games left? Even if the sens only win 4 of 8, the habs would still have to go 7-1, and that is assuming the sens dont pick any OT points which is a lofty assumption.

2) same concept applies for any other team behind ottawa, except they would need even better records

3) thats my point regarding people who hang their hat on schedule strength. You see some silly results down the stretch.
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1.) When the teams play each other. The Sens next two games are against two teams fighting for their division & home ice. Montreal's next 2 games is against two teams at the bottom of the standings. If the better teams win those matchups, that's enough to bring it close enough where the Habs control their own destiny.

2.) Yes, CBJ has a good chance with 2 head to heads. They win both and they're 3 points behind with a game in hand. The key thing is winning the head to heads.

3.) I mean would you rather play two teams competing for the division your next 2 games or 2 teams competing for the best draft lottery odds? Ottawa plays the former while Montreal plays the latter.
 
Golden_Jet said:
As always anything is possible, better chance TB or Florida catch the leafs then, with points difference.
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Yes, no one thinks the Leafs have clinched the division yet. They're certainly less confident than the Sens seem to be about WC1 for some reason. They control their own destiny, but that's about it. Tampa has the easiest schedule with no back to backs while the Leafs and Florida have 2.
 
Divine said:
Yes, no one thinks the Leafs have clinched the division yet. They're certainly less confident than the Sens seem to be about WC1 for some reason.
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I guess that makes sense.
Moneypuck has 98% Sens making playoffs
And leafs 54% of winning division.
 
JianYang said:
1) In what world is 5 points not a monstrous lead with 8 games left? Even if the sens only win 4 of 8, the habs would still have to go 7-1, and that is assuming the sens dont pick any OT points which is a lofty assumption.

2) same concept applies for any other team behind ottawa, except they would need even better records

3) thats my point regarding people who hang their hat on schedule strength. You see some silly results down the stretch.
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It's 6 points with the tiebreaker, but technically 4 points with 7 games left since that Sens/Habs game next week is pretty much a scheduled Habs win.
 
Divine said:
1.) When the teams play each other. The Sens next two games are against two teams fighting for their division & home ice. Montreal's next 2 games is against two teams at the bottom of the standings. If the better teams win those matchups, that's enough to bring it close enough where the Habs control their own destiny.

2.) Yes, CBJ has a good chance with 2 head to heads. They win both and they're 3 points behind with a game in hand. The key thing is winning the head to heads.

3.) I mean would you rather play two teams competing for the division your next 2 games or 2 teams competing for the best draft lottery odds? Ottawa plays the former while Montreal plays the latter.
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You can throw all analysis out the window when it comes to montreal and boston. If anyone has followed montreal's season, they would worry about games against teams in that tier, regardless.

I don't think you fully appreciate how hard it is to make up ground. You said it yourself. Winning both h2h games (I assume you mean in regulation) is hard enough, and if you do that, then if you also happen to win the game in hand, you still dont control your own destiny? Thats alot of stars that need aligning.

If ottawa blows this, it will be one of the more memorable collapses in a very long time. Its just extremely unlikely.
 
Golden_Jet said:
Sure, you can apply the same logic to the leafs and the division, not sure what your point is.
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You just said my point in your sentence.

The Senators have not secured even a playoff position, let alone WC1. The Leafs have not secured the division but have secured a playoff spot.
 
Divine said:
You just said my point in your sentence.

The Senators have not secured even a playoff position, let alone WC1. The Leafs have not secured the division but have secured a playoff spot.
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lol Ok, I agreed with that in my first response, when I said “anything is possible”
Were obviously done here, you’re going in circles.
 
Golden_Jet said:
lol Ok, I agreed with that in my first response, when I said “anything is possible”
Were obviously done here, you’re going in circles.
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I agree. We both agreed that the Sens can still miss the playoffs (but more likely fall to WC2) I don’t know why you kept going on about odds. Odds don’t play the game.

Based on the odds - The Sens lose tonight and the Habs win. That scenario creates a 3 point gap with 7 games remaining, one of them being head to head. The games still have to be played though.
 
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SmoggyTwinkles said:
I wish the Eastern Conference Standings could stay exactly as they are right now.

To me those are the perfect matchups.

Toronto vs Ottawa
Tampa vs Florida
Washington vs Montreal
Carolina vs New Jersey
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You know I wouldn’t be surprised if they did stay like this.

I think the standings are pretty much locked in. I doubt Florida leapfrogs Toronto with Tkachuk and Ekblad out and then they have Barkov injured too.
 
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Divine said:
I agree. We both agreed that the Sens can still miss the playoffs (but more likely fall to WC2) I don’t know why you kept going on about odds. Odds don’t play the game.

Based on the odds - The Sens lose tonight and the Habs win. That scenario creates a 3 point gap with 7 games remaining, one of them being head to head. The games still have to be played though.
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