Speculation: Early Buyer/Seller predictions.

[Petes2424]

Really.... I could easily see Tampa falling out. Does Florida have a hangover season as we have seen so many times?? Bruins are still weak down the middle. The Leafs while the current class of the Atlantic have many question marks particularly 4th line, defense and goaltending. Top 9 is awesome as of September 18th, 2024.

Yep, and another point the Top 4 crowd isn’t thinking about is, there’s no longer 4 pushovers in the division now… You don’t get to take all those nights off, the Big 4 have been accustomed to.

Detroit, Ottawa and Buffalo, will hit you in the mouth if you take a night off. We’ll see if Montreal wants to join the crowd too, but it’s now probably the best division we’ve seen in recent memory. If one of the 3 up and comers gets off to a hot start, they may never fall out of the Top 3. If Buffalo and Ottawa find that consistency, and if Detroit’s D keeps maturing, or they add another Top 4, these 3 teams will be in the mix. In fact, I’d argue 2 of them could finish in the Top 4 this season. All those young, monster Dmen are all another year older, and they’re not easy to play against.

 

[iago]

Yes. Walman wasn't some reliable seasoned veteran. He has basically 2 seasons and had glaring issues that became more apparent as the team got into more meaningful games. Edvinsson has 2 short stints but it's a safe bet with rookie mistakes included he will be a net positive over Walman at minimum. I could be very wrong about that but size, skating ability, transition game, defensive play I think all are an improvement for Ed over Walman in the very near future.

Detroit is in the mushy middle like you said... could regress with injuries, goaltending or defensive issues if they continue. I won't argue that. They definitely have the potential and have been trending in the right direction so as a fan I'm hoping for year 6 of improvement. With the Atlanic and Eastern conference.. that may not be enough to be in top 8.

I think this seasons expectations are playoffs in Detroit but I'm likely in the minority that I won't be devastated if they miss as long as the younger players continue to develop. I still think everything is moving in the right direction, coaching would be the wild card in all that as Lalonde hasn't shown me much for better or worse, yet.

I agree with you on both counts. Walman was very incostitent. He could make a really good play, but would often follow that up with minor league level giveaways - sometimes in the same shift. Edvinsson will start the season as Walmans equal, and by mid season, willbe a significant improvement.

I also agree with you about Lalonde. Too often, his Red Wings look totally lost, just as bad as they did under Blashill. Detroit needs to become much harder toplay against defensively, and that starts with Lalonde being much tougher to coach against. Personally, I think Detroits season depends mostly on Lalondes coaching improving, and I think he is on a short leash. If the Wings haven't improved defensively in the first 20 to 30 games, Newsy will be replaced by either Gallant or Quennville by the new year.

 

[Satanphonehome]

I mean they probably aren't a playoff team because the top 4 is still the top 4.

Even if the Atlantic took 5 spots which I don't think they will, but even if they did Ottawa is more likely to take that spot because they at least made an effort to get better.

So no I don't see why they wouldn't sell Zucker, or Joker, or Greenway, possibly Lafferty, although Lafferty has an extra year so maybe not.

But their UFA's? I see no reason why not.

The Sabres have moved on from 8 players who played at least 40 games for them last year.

Broadly speaking, those were among their slowest, softest and/or most defensively lacking players.

Broadly speaking, the replacements are hard, strong defensively and among the league's fastest.

They also switched from nice-guy developmental coach, to a veteran accountability coach in an effort to jumpstart a large number of young players who did not play up to their potential last year.

You can safely argue they won't be better, but to suggest they didn't make an effort shows an embarrassing lack of understanding of why Buffalo was disappointing last year and what they did to address their issues.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The Sabres have moved on from 8 players who played at least 40 games for them last year.

Broadly speaking, those were among their slowest, softest and/or most defensively lacking players.

Broadly speaking, the replacements are hard, strong defensively and among the league's fastest.

They also switched from nice-guy developmental coach, to a veteran accountability coach in an effort to jumpstart a large number of young players who did not play up to their potential last year.

You can safely argue they won't be better, but to suggest they didn't make an effort shows an embarrassing lack of understanding of why Buffalo was disappointing last year and what they did to address their issues.

Sorry but I don't think Beck Malinstine and Ryan Mclode are going to make a damn bit of difference.

I know Sam Lafferty isn't going to make a damn bit of difference, he's been on my team he won't.

I don't think replacing Skinner with Zucker is an upgrade, and if you tell me Zucker is the Oloffsson replacement fair enough MAYBE that's an upgrade.

But that means you didn't replace Skinner at all.

So you either replaced Skinner with Zucker which is a downgrade.

OR you didn't replace Skinner at all which is an even bigger downgrade.

I do think you guys are better behind the bench for now.

But I don't think the on ice product is better.

I got them around 78 points

 

[Satanphonehome]

Sorry but I don't think Beck Malinstine and Ryan Mclode are going to make a damn bit of difference.

I know Sam Lafferty isn't going to make a damn bit of difference, he's been on my team he won't.

I don't think replacing Skinner with Zucker is an upgrade, and if you tell me Zucker is the Oloffsson replacement fair enough MAYBE that's an upgrade.

But that means you didn't replace Skinner at all.

So you either replaced Skinner with Zucker which is a downgrade.

OR you didn't replace Skinner at all which is an even bigger downgrade.

I do think you guys are better behind the bench for now.

But I don't think the on ice product is better.

I got them around 78 points

You would have thought watching your team all these years would have taught you that hockey isn't a video game where the team with the best goal scorers always wins.

To be clear, I'm not arguing about whether the Sabres will be good or not. The season will tell us that.

I'm arguing about your silly statement that they didn't even try.

 

[HFpapi]

Ducks will be selling at some point
-gibson
-fowler
-Vatrano
-dumolin

For the life of me I can't understand why you guys didn't trade Vatrano at the last deadline. I even made a thread about him pre-deadline asking about his value.

i) A team getting him last year would've gotten him for 1.5 regular seasons and 2 playoff runs instead of only .5 of a season and 1 playoff run.

ii) The Ducks were well out of the playoffs.

iii) Vatrano was in the midst of a 37 goal season which you cannot expect him to repeat this year leading into the TDL.

iv) He's 30 and doesn't make sense to re-sign and count as part of your future core.

It seems like bad asset management to not have traded him last deadline and instead now trade him a) as a rental b) (likely) off a less productive season and c) a year older. What gives?