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Salary Cap: Dylan McIlrath

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free0717

free0717

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With the Rangers seemingly going to lose Anton Stralman and with the Rangers being in Cap Hell, how close is Dylan McIlrath. He is our best RH Defenseman Prospect. His cap his is only 703,333. If he were ready, he would really give us some relief on the third pair. Can he hold the fort and develop on the third pair?

It would really help our cap situation. Please only comments from people who watched him @ Hartford @ the end of the year.
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free0717 said:
With the Rangers seemingly going to lose Anton Stralman and with the Rangers being in Cap Hell, how close is Dylan McIlrath. He is our best RH Defenseman Prospect. His cap his is only 703,333. If he were ready, he would really give us some relief on the third pair. Can he hold the fort and develop on the third pair?

It would really help our cap situation. Please only comments from people who watched him @ Hartford @ the end of the year.
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So that's why there are no comments...

But we need this kid anyway, he'll be on the roster next season :nod:
 
Replacing Stralman with McIlrath would be brutal.

Sign Stralman.
 
free0717 said:
I went back 5 pages and there were no threads on this subject. Took me back to 6/12
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That's because he comes up in every thread related to prospects, drafting (and half the others as well) and takes them all off on tangents for a page or more. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if his name is mentioned in the All Things NYC thread a couple of times. :)

Short answer: there are some encouraging things. His north-south skating is excellent for a big man. He has some surprising creativity with the puck in the offensive zone. He has a big shot. He lays big hits and obviously we all know he's about the baddest man out there when it comes to dropping the gloves. HOWEVER, he still gets beat wide on a regular basis and, perhaps more concerning, displays balance issues. I know it's only two negatives after a list of positives, but they're pronounced enough that they continue to have me very concerned. We need to see big steps forward on both, otherwise he'll never be more than a 3rd pair goon, if that.
 
BrooklynRangersFan said:
That's because he comes up in every thread related to prospects, drafting (and half the others as well) and takes them all off on tangents for a page or more. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if his name is mentioned in the All Things NYC thread a couple of times. :)

Short answer: there are some encouraging things. His north-south skating is excellent for a big man. He has some surprising creativity with the puck in the offensive zone. He has a big shot. He lays big hits and obviously we all know he's about the baddest man out there when it comes to dropping the gloves. HOWEVER, he still gets beat wide on a regular basis and, perhaps more concerning, displays balance issues. I know it's only two negatives after a list of positives, but they're pronounced enough that they continue to have me very concerned. We need to see big steps forward on both, otherwise he'll never be more than a 3rd pair goon, if that.
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Exactly we are all rooting for the kid and we love his toughness/fighting ability but i still need to see a lot more to be comfortable with him playing on a regular basis especially as a former top 10 pick
 
NYRangers723 said:
True but to be fair we dont even know if Mcilrath can handle 3rd pair minutes yet. Believe me i hpe the kid wrks out eventually but im just trying to be objective
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He was playing 18-20 minutes a game in the AHL against the best players from the other team. He is a lot closer than many people believe. It's because he isn't a "flashy" skilled defenseman that people cry. It doesn't make what he brings any less unique.

Someone point out a top-4 defenseman that can literally intimidate, throw big hits, PK and drop the gloves with anyone in the league to defend a teammate. That is what he projects to be still. I'll wait for the responses.
 
NYRangers723 said:
True but to be fair we dont even know if Mcilrath can handle 3rd pair minutes yet. Believe me i hpe the kid wrks out eventually but im just trying to be objective
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I get that. My point is it's not Stralman or McIrath. The Rangers are very fortunate to have Klein at a great contract. It gives the Rangers an in-house guy who could slot up. It also allows the Rangers to have a number for Stralman and stick to that number when it comes to a new contract.
 
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I think we see Allen before we see Dylan.

That said, with the current situation we find ourselves, I see both Connor Allen and Dylan McIlrath rotating in the line up.
 
With McIlrath, the question is less about salary cap implications and more about if he can play at the NHL level.
 
NYR Viper said:
Someone point out a top-4 defenseman that can literally intimidate, throw big hits, PK and drop the gloves with anyone in the league to defend a teammate. That is what he projects to be still. I'll wait for the responses.
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Are we talking about the Rangers here? If not, Radko Gudas comes to mind.

Speaking of Gudas... he split time in the AHL/NHL as a 22 year old and broke in as a steady D as a 23 year old. I don't think it's unreasonable to think McIlrath is on the same general development curve.
 
Beacon said:
Do we need a new McIlrath thread every week?
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Yes, because his cap hit is drastically bigger then Tarasenko's and Fowler's proving what a colossal bust taking him was. The board needs that reminder every waking second. I will never like this pick, from my extensive scouting of local midget B leagues, I knew it was horrible right away and hope he fails just so I would be correct.

I think that sums up Dylan McIlrath nicely in a paragraph or less.

I watched 3 games at the mid/end of the season it looked like he was progressing nicely. I figure he is a 6th in the NHL right now he has to work on puck skills and balance but that's the going opinion here I think. ALso, I think it will take him at least half a season or longer to figure out the speed and gap skills required but that would be normal to any young defensman.
 
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Miamipuck said:
Yes, because his cap hit is drastically bigger then Tarasenko's and Fowler's proving what a colossal bust taking him was. The board needs that reminder every waking second. I will never liked this pick, from my extensive scouting of local midget B leagues I knew it was horrible and hope he fails just to so I am correct.

I think that sums up Dylan McIlrath nicely in a paragraph or less.
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I am going to save this post for when he makes the Rangers. I hope you take no enjoyment from having a warrior on this team.



Tawnos said:
Are we talking about the Rangers here? If not, Radko Gudas comes to mind.

Speaking of Gudas... he split time in the AHL/NHL as a 22 year old and broke in as a steady D as a 23 year old. I don't think it's unreasonable to think McIlrath is on the same general development curve.
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Gudas is a good example. Besides him and maybe players like Weber and Chara who don't get involved often any more because of the minutes they play, these guys aren't available. I still think he ends up being the Lucic of defensemen in the NHL.
 
NYR Viper said:
Gudas is a good example. Besides him and maybe players like Weber and Chara who don't get involved often any more because of the minutes they play, these guys aren't available. I still think he ends up being the Lucic of defensemen in the NHL.
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The thing that separates McIlrath from Gudas (strictly speaking of potential) is size. Gudas is 6'0", McIlrath is 6'5". I know this won't sit well on here, but I really do think we're looking at one more season of development from him, maybe a half season, before we know whether he's ever going to be more than a 6/7 guy. I do think he will be at least that. It's still too early for bust labels.
 
Tawnos said:
The thing that separates McIlrath from Gudas (strictly speaking of potential) is size. Gudas is 6'0", McIlrath is 6'5". I know this won't sit well on here, but I really do think we're looking at one more season of development from him, maybe a half season, before we know whether he's ever going to be more than a 6/7 guy. I do think he will be at least that. It's still too early for bust labels.
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I think they let him over develop another year. I think half a season and he will be good. I also foresee a lot more complaints this season.
 
NYR Viper said:
I am going to save this post for when he makes the Rangers. I hope you take no enjoyment from having a warrior on this team.
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Promise to post it everywhere you can. I will derive all the enjoyment I can if you do that for me, just to remind me I need to work on my grammar, wow that was awful.
 
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NYR Viper said:
I am going to save this post for when he makes the Rangers. I hope you take no enjoyment from having a warrior on this team.





Gudas is a good example. Besides him and maybe players like Weber and Chara who don't get involved often any more because of the minutes they play, these guys aren't available. I still think he ends up being the Lucic of defensemen in the NHL.
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Just a hunch, but I think he was joking :laugh:
 
Beacon said:
Do we need a new McIlrath thread every week?
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We should wish the issue away and trust your glowing assessments of his Hartford play, I suppose.

Fact of the matter is, if McIlrath was ready now - 4 years after he was drafted, it would make the Stralman situation a bit easier to deal with. But since McIlrath isn't ready to slot into the 3rd pair to start the season, the whole issues becomes that much murkier. It is what it is, and it'll continue to be discussed whether you like it or not.
 
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