Friedman: Dylan Larkin requests trade

[eojsmada]

Larkin++ for an extended Robertson?

Debrincat and Larkin for Robertson, Hryckowian and an exchange of picks to get Dallas' 2027 1st?

May have to add Lybushkin to make the Cap work...but something like this as a framework

 

[villacco]

Detroit needs a good center man.

 

[Breakers]

Well I mean to be fair, this American city does directly border Canada

can't wait for that Dahlin trade request

 

[AKL]

can't wait for that Dahlin trade request

He's not American though. We already had Eichel request a trade out of Buffalo. I guess the next one would be Thompson.

 

[jackjohnson]

I have to admit it refreshing to OFFICIALLY know an american captain wants out of an american city

Canada was catching to many damn strays lately

 

[57special]

So, what teams make sense, assuming that Yzerman would prefer to send Larkin to the West?

MN - Stramel + Yurov ++

ANA - McTavish ++

LAK - Byfield +

DAL - possible dark horse? Robertson for Larkin straight up? DET would be in a hole at C, but JRob is an elite talent. DAL would solve their cap, and C problem.

Utah - Desnoyers + Peterka +

I don't know that Lrkin would ok a move to STL, SJS, NSH, SEA, EDM, or WPG. Certainly not CAL or VAN. CO unlikely.

 

[FlyguyOX]

So, what teams make sense, assuming that Yzerman would prefer to send Larkin to the West?

MN - Stramel + Yurov ++

ANA - McTavish ++

LAK - Byfield +

DAL - possible dark horse? Robertson for Larkin straight up? DET would be in a hole at C, but JRob is an elite talent. DAL would solve their cap, and C problem.

Utah - Desnoyers + Peterka +

I don't know that Lrkin would ok a move to STL, SJS, NSH, SEA, EDM, or WPG. Certainly not CAL or VAN. CO unlikely.

PHI - Tippett, York, Luchanko, 1st

 

[Prior]

Larkin certainly carries a lot of value. I don’t think there have been many packages in this thread that haven’t represented that. Expecting along the lines of a Hughes deal is not representative of the type of player (top 5 at position comfortably), age, and contract situation. There is a spot between that and some of the inflated prices of this deadline that it’s reasonable for him to expect to fall in.

Minnesota certainly has the pieces to acquire Larkin. Frankly, they have the pieces to acquire most any player in the league if they choose to make them available. Again, there is a difference from that top tier to Dylan Larkin.

I think his list is likely something of Vegas, Minnesota, Dallas, Carolina, Florida, Tampa, and Carolina. Maybe Columbus, Anaheim, and Buffalo are in there.

To suggest that Larkin is going to leave Detroit for a place like Chicago who are more interested in failing than winning and looking up at a division with Colorado, Dallas, Minnesota, and even Utah is probably a bit laughable.

 

[Claypool]

I don't see Larkin going to Dallas, especially if Benn is still on the team. Robertson also would never sign a long-term deal with Detroit. Literally makes no sense to him.

 

[ToDavid]

my speculation is hes a vegas golden knights for william karlsson and dorofeyev.

Vegas cant afford to re-sign dorofeyev without moving someone like karlsson anyway and this gets them someone they probably value over dorofeyev and sets them down the middle with eichel-karlsson-howden

I think their $4.6m in cap space is before taking off Pietrangelo for LTIR, so they have some room. Depends if they want to keep Andersson. They’re likely also moving off Hill and I’d guess they’d move off guys like Hertl or Barbashev before Dorofeyev.

 

[FiveTacos]

If the management is not surrounding him with good players or the team is faltering, is it reasonable that he requests a trade? I don't know, seems to me this diminishes a player's character and I wonder if it diminishes value as well - would another team consider what kind of player they would be getting who would be disgruntled in the middle of a signed contract?

The guy has missed the playoffs *for his entire 20s*.

I think it's entirely understandable why he is asking out. Expecting him to stay "loyal" until he's past his prime, at which point he'll be an overpriced role player that no contender can fit under the cap, is insane.

He could have forced his way out years ago as he approached UFA. But he gave the team a chance to put it together. A NTC is not a declaration of eternal loyalty, it's saying hey I coulda picked my destination when I extended, if we have to part ways I still want to retain that control. Fair.

His Olympic experience probably gave him a taste of what he's been missing.

 

[PensandCaps]

Larkin takes some blame himself, he never was good enough to be the best player on a team, a low end 1C, more suited for a 2C role. I remember the hype around Larkin, he was supposed to be better than he has been.

 

[Unspecified]

Debrincat and Larkin for Robertson, Hryckowian and an exchange of picks to get Dallas' 2027 1st?

May have to add Lybushkin to make the Cap work...but something like this as a framework

I think Dallas is pretty hyped over Hryckowian to even think of moving him right now since they just signed his brother to a contract.

 

[Boreas]

Just a colossal failure by Yzerman. Ive seen some criticism of him in this but not nearly enough. This is his chickens coming home to roost and way past time he was fired.

If I were the Illitchs I would do what should have been done years ago and get him out of there. Maybe there's a small chance that changes things for larkin but thats not even the point. The point is that the team needs a new leader because the current one is *very clearly* incompetent for the position.

Really the problem, as it so often does, probably goes all the way to the top. Without Mike around anymore it seems like the Illitchs dont know who to turn to for advice with the team and have just given Yzerman free range to do whatever for however long no matter the consequences.

Seriously - a Michigan native, played NCAA in Michigan, is a star at the most important position in hockey, still in his prime and at an affordable cap hit is demanding a trade out.

What a complete and devastating failure by Yzerman. Amazing legendary player but a colossal failure as a GM in my eyes.

 

[Michoulicious]

Larkin for Hichier. The trade is one for one.

 

[BigBoss614]

I just don't see how Larkin wants to go out west.

He and his wife have deep roots in Michigan and they have a one year old child? I can't see them choosing to move to the other side of the country when he's essentially lived in Michigan for his whole life...I just don't see them choosing to move out of the Midwest.

He has at most 5-10 years of hockey left, while it wouldn't be a super long term move, they have very established roots in Michigan.

 

[Ace]

can't wait for that Dahlin trade request

You’re going to be waiting an awful long time.

Some captains meet with their leadership group and commit fully to turning things around and pull their team out of the longest drought in NHL history while dealing with private tragedies.

Others blame the GM for their failure and demand a trade.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Larkin takes some blame himself, he never was good enough to be the best player on a team, a low end 1C, more suited for a 2C role. I remember the hype around Larkin, he was supposed to be better than he has been.

I get the vibe that Larkin wants to win and remember the contract took a bit to get signed. He probably only signed because he got assurance from Yzerman that he would improve the team and add more talent.

This can be perceived to be a negative or a positive. My guess says Larkin is tired of losing. 5 playoff games in his entire career.

He's not paid as the best. His cap hit of $8.7M is very fair for what he provides. In fact, he might have agreed to take a bit less so the team had more cap go after improvements.

I'm more on Larkin's side than Yzerman in this case. I respect that he gave the Wings plenty of chances and he wants to win. It's deeper than just money for him.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Larkin++ for an extended Robertson?

Yeah no, adding two more pieces? Larkin is on a great deal and then the Wings would have to pay Robertson 14mil.

 

[Cavin 4 Gavin 2026]

Neutral fan here. When I hear Montreal is in the running I wonder what they would offer the Wings -- if DET wants youth and centers, the best I could think of is Kapanen + Hage + pick?

 

[Viqsi]

I just don't see how Larkin wants to go out west.

He and his wife have deep roots in Michigan and they have a one year old child? I can't see them choosing to move to the other side of the country when he's essentially lived in Michigan for his whole life...I just don't see them choosing to move out of the Midwest.

He has at most 5-10 years of hockey left, while it wouldn't be a super long term move, they have very established roots in Michigan.

Every time I see reference to "the West" in these discussions, I don't think out in California or whatever. I think just conference, and therefore Minnesota, and that's about it.

 

[nbwingsfan]

The part that is being overlooked here is legitimate concern around what keeping a disgruntled former leader in the organization will have on Seider and Raymond. We would like to think none, but time and again we hear GM's say they prefer to move guys who don't want to be there as quickly as possible.

I am not saying Yzerman will make a trade out of desperation. Whiffing on this would set Detroit back which is also bad for Seider and Raymond. But there's a balancing act and if he gets a passable (albeit not great) offer I think Yzerman might take it.

It’s not being overlooked, they’re obviously not going to just keep him for 5 years if they don’t get a good return

I’m just saying the odds the Larkin will only accept to 1-2 teams is extremely low

 

[quackquackquack]

So, what teams make sense, assuming that Yzerman would prefer to send Larkin to the West?

MN - Stramel + Yurov ++

ANA - McTavish ++

LAK - Byfield +

DAL - possible dark horse? Robertson for Larkin straight up? DET would be in a hole at C, but JRob is an elite talent. DAL would solve their cap, and C problem.

Utah - Desnoyers + Peterka +

I don't know that Lrkin would ok a move to STL, SJS, NSH, SEA, EDM, or WPG. Certainly not CAL or VAN. CO unlikely.

Not a chance he agrees to go to the Bolded teams. They'd be worse off than DET

 

[Breakers]

You’re going to be waiting an awful long time.

Some captains meet with their leadership group and commit fully to turning things around and pull their team out of the longest drought in NHL history while dealing with private tragedies.

Others blame the GM for their failure and demand a trade.

It was hyperbole in response to a comment that a captain requested a trade because he is near proximity of the Canadian border

Not because the organization is run like a dumpster fire

 

[FiveTacos]

Larkin takes some blame himself, he never was good enough to be the best player on a team, a low end 1C, more suited for a 2C role. I remember the hype around Larkin, he was supposed to be better than he has been.

He was a mid first round pick from 12 years ago who has well outperformed his draft position. Not being able to put together a playoff team in that time period is not on him.