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Player Discussion Dylan Cozens

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I disagree. Norris is the better goal scorer, and was working on a solid 200 foot game, but Cozens is a better centreman, is better at carrying the puck, and is better at making plays. The clincher for me will be if Green and company can round out his defensive game like they did for Norris.

Nice hockey trade in my opinion as we need more of what Cozens offers in the position. I miss Norris on the team though, that pp one timer was deadly.
Fair enough, all things being equal though, the down time and injuries swings things to Cozen's side.
 
Cozens is weak defensively and is not much of a playmaker. That means he’ll have to be a scoring centre…can he do that?
 
Really happy he scored. He needed it and the team needed it. I am a Cozens fan and supporter and I still think the Sens are ahead on the trade with the fit and what Cozens brings over Norris.

Overall I found he just ok and I found he lost his balance quite a bit.. He has done that before but I noticed it more last night... I think Cozens lacked good coaching in Buffalo for most of the time he was there . I have no idea what his off seasons have been like either... but he needs to get stronger to reach his upside.
Stronger and a goodly portion of physical play with a tad of meanness.
 
Cozens is weak defensively and is not much of a playmaker. That means he’ll have to be a scoring centre…can he do that?
I find it hard to understand how so many posters on this board can have different opinions on Cozens....actually not opinions but people state them as facts.

Over the course of this thread, I have read people say he is very good defensively, and other say he isn't...some say he is a good center, others sure he is better at wing.

I know this happens with a lot of players, but with Cozens, it seems like even more than usual, many have made up their mind of exactly how good he is and will be, and nothing will change their mind either way.
 
I find it hard to understand how so many posters on this board can have different opinions on Cozens....actually not opinions but people state them as facts.

Over the course of this thread, I have read people say he is very good defensively, and other say he isn't...some say he is a good center, others sure he is better at wing.

I know this happens with a lot of players, but with Cozens, it seems like even more than usual, many have made up their mind of exactly how good he is and will be, and nothing will change their mind either way.
People have different opinions but I’m not sure anybody here would call him defensively sound.
 
Once Perron, Jensen & Giroux are gone that should free up some money to fill at least one top nine spot. Staois could also add a top nine spot for this coming season.

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Cozens - Brady & Timmy could help Cozens become a more consistent goal scorer
Greig - Pinto - Batherson - Batherson should help these two raise their production numbers & Vise a Versa
Zetterlund - Halliday - Amadio - not sure how these three will turn out & maybe could be improved on
 
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Pinto seems to be thriving as a shut down centre, I guess some guys just have a feel for it.
The HockeyWriters have an interesting article on the best ever defensive forwards in the NHL. I saw all of them play except for the two old-timers from the early 1900s. :)

 
Pinto seems to be thriving as a shut down centre, I guess some guys just have a feel for it.
It takes a certain mindset including high hockey IQ plus the skills required to excel at it (e.g., skating, positioning, hustle, speed, anticipation, stick work, etc.).
 
If Cozens only grows his defensive game in a year under Green et al as much as our least-improved forward, even that will be significant.
 
This pre-draft bio of Pinto has him as an offensive player while I thought they drafted him for his defensive ability. The good news is that he is now defensively very strong, a very good two way 200' player, good at faceoffs & can add offence which he now seems to be breaking out as he begins to realize just how good he can be. If he can add another 10 lbs of muscle & become a little more physical he will get so much better & be much harder to play against, I think he will have his best offensive season next yr, same for Greig.

 
This pre-draft bio of Pinto has him as an offensive player while I thought they drafted him for his defensive ability. The good news is that he is now defensively very strong, a very good two way 200' player, good at faceoffs & can add offence which he now seems to be breaking out as he begins to realize just how good he can be. If he can add another 10 lbs of muscle & become a little more physical he will get so much better & be much harder to play against, I think he will have his best offensive season next yr, same for Greig.


It's The Hockey Writers, so you have to take it with a grain of salt. It's no different than pulling up a post on here. Could it be a super knowledgeable person who watched a ton of Shane Pinto posting about him? Possibly. But odds are it's someone churning out content who doesn't know a lot about him.
 
It's The Hockey Writers, so you have to take it with a grain of salt. It's no different than pulling up a post on here. Could it be a super knowledgeable person who watched a ton of Shane Pinto posting about him? Possibly. But odds are it's someone churning out content who doesn't know a lot about him.

THW just re-words (and in certain cases outright plagarizes) what other people say/write about a prospect.

I've been saying for a long-time that no one should trust their "analysis".
 
THW just re-words (and in certain cases outright plagarizes) what other people say/write about a prospect.

I've been saying for a long-time that no one should trust their "analysis".

It's just forum posters who post for free on a blog, but people see the branding and assume it has some legitimacy to it.

It's no more legitimate than an HFBoards, Reddit, Twitter post. Which isn't to say every single writer on there knows nothing, but it's the same as a forum. It's a mixed bag, and usually is mostly just fans shooting the shit.

I agree with what you are saying. They try to cover far too wide of a scope like rank the top 60 prospects, or do a writeup of a team they don't follow. So it just becomes a human form of AI, except it does a worse job. They don't watch all these players, so it's no different than if I type into ChatGPT, "Give me a scouting report for Carter Yakemchuk" - then use that info to form my opinion, and pass it off as if I watched the player.

Especially if you follow one team really closely, you can always pick out the articles on those websites where someone who doesn't follow the team writes an article that way. Like the one posted in the trade thread a few days ago that said we had tons of cap space to work with and it wasn't a matter of if we'd sign a big UFA but who.
 
To be fair, Cozens isn't bad at faceoffs, and even Giroux who had the best record in the league has struggled. Tavares just seems to be dialed in.
Agree, but Green would put Norris in for Dzone faceoffs. I don't think the coach trusts Cozens in the Dzone as much, at least not yet.
 
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I'll go on the record and say I think we lost this trade.

Cozens didn't impress me and I think Norris is the better player now and has a much higher ceiling in the future. I'm not even a big Norris fan but I prefer his game to Cozens'.

I fear cozens is one of those guys that lacks the IQ and playmaking to be a good choice for the top 6, but has too immature of a game to be elite in the bottom six. He needs good linemates to be effective but doesn't make his linemates any better. Hopefully he's teachable and can take a step under Green.

He needs to plug his defensive holes and learn to play more of a team game. He plays a selfish game where he tries to do a bit too much alone. I see the same issue with Zetterlund too and i hope it's just a result of bad coaching/usage on their former squads.
 
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