Value of: Dylan Cozens

[Fjordy]

Jets are in need of a 2C and I’d, personally, rather they acquired someone like Cozens over wasting more assets on pure rentals.

It's hard to imagine what Jets could offer for Cozens that would make a trade acceptable.

 

[MVP Zacha]

I wonder what Gorton/Hughes are offering because the rumors are we are in the mix as well. Maybe it was a quick conversation



I'd avoid the "spare parts" narrative. Just say you pass on that offer. It's OK to decline an offer without trashing the players in the offer. It's a very bad culture on these boards.

I'm not sure there is that 1/1 trade you are looking for. But if you think flipping Cozens for a 34-38 contract fits, that is your choice to make.

I am curious to see what he returns.... looks like there is enough smoke to indicate it's going to happen. All the Habs can do is offer several packages and if it's declined... so be it

Why is that every time someone disagrees with you on the trade value of a Habs player, you immediately state that they are trashing the Habs. No, it is just that nobody else agrees with your ridiculous over valuing of every Montreal prospect.

 

[markpenske]

ever hear buy low, sell high? Cozens is currently at an all time low. Just hang on to him.

 

[Fjordy]

ever hear buy low, sell high? Cozens is currently at an all time low. Just hang on to him.

He's been deteriorating for the second season, either you put him on the wing or trade him while he's still worth something. This doesn't mean sell him low, I believe you can find a good deal.

 

[Zman5778]

He's been deteriorating for the second season, either you put him on the wing or trade him while he's still worth something. This doesn't mean sell him low, I believe you can find a good deal.

And if Adams can't find a good deal......his contract can be bought out for pennies after 25/26 (1.18M over 10 seasons) if he keeps underperforming to this degree.

 

[Fjordy]

And if Adams can't find a good deal......his contract can be bought out for pennies after 25/26 (1.18M over 10 seasons) if he keeps underperforming to this degree.

I know, but that would be a disappointment when I think we could get some useful assets for him.

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

ever hear buy low, sell high? Cozens is currently at an all time low. Just hang on to him.

I've heard of that, I just disagree. A better motto would be, don't buy or sell unless it's in your interest to do so. For one, if a team is willing to make a great offer on Cozens, why should it matter what his "perceived value" is right now? His value is whatever teams are willing to offer.

I'd also argue that there are times when it makes sense to make a deal even when you lose on value. For example, Adams was roasted for trading Savoie for McLeod, but we needed a player like McLeod way more than we needed a prospect like Savoie. Savoie may still go on to become a better overall player, but it was in our interest to make that deal and I'm glad they did.

 

[tsujimoto74]

I can't force you to like Newhook but for the record, he is more like a middle 6F. Below average 2nd line talent and above average 3rd line talent. His pts/game in his career so far is 0.44 vs Cozens at 0.58. Over the last two seasons, it's 0.47 vs 0.55. Both players are underperforming to their potential.

What are your thoughts about Dach+ for Cozens? The + won't be substantial. Maybe a B prospect or two 2nd's. Something like that.

I have seen someone say Kadri? They can't be serious? Trading a 24 year old for a 34 year old?

I don’t know who gave you the idea that Buffalo wants to make its roster worse, but you should stop listening to them.

 

[StrompTroller]

I don’t know who gave you the idea that Buffalo wants to make its roster worse, but you should stop listening to them.

That was Kevyn adams actually....

 

[Magic Man]

David Kampf + Nicholas Robertson + Fraser Minten + 2026 1st (Top-5 Protection - Defers to 2027)

for

Dyl Cozens

Minten and a 1st is a pretty good prospect/pick combo. Robertson could be pushed into the Sabres top-9 immediately and replace a lot of the scoring Cozens was bringing. Robertson and Cozens are from the same draft. Kampf is salary back and would likely be good enough to be an every day player in Buffalo.

 

[Djp]

I'd probably do Newhook + CGY's 1st + Mailloux for Cozens

I'd hang up

You would trade Cozens at age 23-28 for Kadri at age 34-38?

No.

I'm not a fan of Dach at all, I think he is like Jack Quinn who had serious injuries and their careers will be impacted because of it.

Different injuries. Achilles injuries takes a long time to fully heal

I'd avoid the "spare parts" narrative. Just say you pass on that offer. It's OK to decline an offer without trashing the players in the offer. It's a very bad culture on these boards.

This offer is by definition spare expendable parts

I'm not sure there is that 1/1 trade you are looking for. But if you think flipping Cozens for a 34-38 contract fits, that is your choice to make.

It doesnt have to be a 1-1 trade
But a hockey trade involving multiple players

I am curious to see what he returns.... looks like there is enough smoke to indicate it's going to happen. All the Habs can do is offer several packages and if it's declined... so be it

The smoke are from teans looking to yaje advantage from Adams by low balling

So don’t offer a package for Cozens, but accept a package from us for a better player. Why does it sounds like every other fanbase reaction to trade thread about their player?

A deal that involves players

I know, but that would be a disappointment when I think we could get some useful assets for him.

They can buy him out in summer 2026 at 1/3 if necessary. They dont need to take someone else's trash

 

[Skullz]

David Kampf + Nicholas Robertson + Fraser Minten + 2026 1st (Top-5 Protection - Defers to 2027)

for

Dyl Cozens

Minten and a 1st is a pretty good prospect/pick combo. Robertson could be pushed into the Sabres top-9 immediately and replace a lot of the scoring Cozens was bringing. Robertson and Cozens are from the same draft. Kampf is salary back and would likely be good enough to be an every day player in Buffalo.

TOR: Domi + Minten + Danforth + 2026 1st (Top 5 protected)

BUF: Cozens

 

[johnnybbadd]

David Kampf + Nicholas Robertson + Fraser Minten + 2026 1st (Top-5 Protection - Defers to 2027)

for

Dyl Cozens

Minten and a 1st is a pretty good prospect/pick combo. Robertson could be pushed into the Sabres top-9 immediately and replace a lot of the scoring Cozens was bringing. Robertson and Cozens are from the same draft. Kampf is salary back and would likely be good enough to be an every day player in Buffalo.

Horrible package. Kampf is 4th line fodder. Minten is a decent prospect that would probably be # 3 for Sabres prospect centres behind Helenius and Wahlberg. So not needed. Robertson is not what the Sabres need at all and neither is a late 1st.

 

[crackdown44]

It’s a weird one because if he was playing to his potential Buffalo just wouldn’t want to move him or teams would be willing to pay what the sabres wanted

If they trade him for a mixed bag of futures and he explodes somewhere else they’re going to look dumb again

 

[Fjordy]

They can buy him out in summer 2026 at 1/3 if necessary. They dont need to take someone else's trash

You clearly don't read what I wrote, I didn't talk about trash, but about assets that are useful to us and will improve our team.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

It’s a weird one because if he was playing to his potential Buffalo just wouldn’t want to move him or teams would be willing to pay what the sabres wanted

If they trade him for a mixed bag of futures and he explodes somewhere else they’re going to look dumb again

...the problem is that most, if not all, of the substantial offers for Cozens is going to be for Futures, imo...

 

[Fjordy]

It’s a weird one because if he was playing to his potential Buffalo just wouldn’t want to move him or teams would be willing to pay what the sabres wanted

If they trade him for a mixed bag of futures and he explodes somewhere else they’re going to look dumb again

Well, we just traded Mitts and it seems he didn't explode, but Byram, on the contrary, found his game.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

It's not silly, it's a given. Reinheit has always had a higher IQ, Cozens low hockey IQ, he had one good season with an inflated shooting percentage, and then he just became what he was supposed to be. He doesn't have a good shot, he's bad at defense, not good playmaker, he's bad at center, Ruff literally screams it. He's terrible on the PP and not great on faceoffs. He doesn't show anything there other than speed and athleticism, although he plays without grit.

Besides good veterans, we also need good players. Our defense sucks, they're soft, they can't win a game without Dahlin, they even lost to AVS in the 3rd period when he was out. We need to rebuild our defense and our top 6. That's probably four new players that we're not getting anywhere right now. Laughton? No thanks. Gourde, maybe.


I agree with the first, but not so much with the second. We need to trade one of Power/Byram to properly assemble the defense. Why do we need three PMD LDs when we are missing two RDs in the top 4 who can defend. I would not trade Dahlin, Benson, Thompson and UPL, all the others may be available. Even in games you can see how some simply do not put in the effort.

If Cozens sucks this bad Boston trades you Carlo and Geekie for him.

 

[Fjordy]

...the problem is that most, if not all, of the substantial offers for Cozens is going to be for Futures, imo...

Why? Trade Cozens+ for better player or a one-for-one deal for another similar player, or maybe some other deal, like we discussed here today about Cozens to Utah deal.

 

[Volica]

Well, we just traded Mitts and it seems he didn't explode, but Byram, on the contrary, found his game.

That ended up decently for Buffalo actually.
Probably what they want to do with Cozens, problem being his price tag.

 

[Huffer]

It's hard to imagine what Jets could offer for Cozens that would make a trade acceptable.

100%. Sabres want now pieces and the Jets are competing now. They (the Jets) are not looking to move the types of pieces the Sabres would want.

 

[Fjordy]

That ended up decently for Buffalo actually.
Probably what they want to do with Cozens, problem being his price tag.

I have no idea what Adams has in mind or what kind of return he's looking at.

 

[Volica]

I have no idea what Adams has in mind or what kind of return he's looking at.

I mean, I assume he's not looking at first round picks and prospects, unless those prospects are ready to make the jump the NHL pretty soon, right? Buffalo's done enough drafting and prospecting the last decade than most teams have in their lifetimes; like Buffalo's had more top 2 picks in the last decade than Calgary's had highest pick ever (4).

 

[Mattilaus]

It’s a weird one because if he was playing to his potential Buffalo just wouldn’t want to move him or teams would be willing to pay what the sabres wanted

If they trade him for a mixed bag of futures and he explodes somewhere else they’re going to look dumb again

The solution there is you just don't trade him. All these rumors talk about other teams calling and asking about Cozens, not about Buffalo calling teams trying to sell him (aside from EP40 because that made sense for Buffalo). If all the other teams have to offer are grab bags of prospects and/or picks you just tell them no thanks.

 

[Fjordy]

I mean, I assume he's not looking at first round picks and prospects, unless those prospects are ready to make the jump the NHL pretty soon, right? Buffalo's done enough drafting and prospecting the last decade than most teams have in their lifetimes; like Buffalo's had more top 2 picks in the last decade than Calgary's had highest pick ever (4).

Probably yes, a hockey deal, but it can be of different formats. We have holes in the lineup both in defense and in attack.