Due to a Traffic Jam Hurricane players walk to the Arena in Toronto

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You're closer to the truth than you might think. Toronto city councillors have been waging a war on cars for decades now.

My best friend is an economist who wrote his thesis on this.

It's a hilariously simple solution that no one ever seems to do because its political suicide.


Make it expensive as f***. Starting with all the bad drivers.

Clog an intersection on a red light? $500 with 5 demerit points.
Speeding in a school zone? $1500
Cameras up on every light.
Make driving downtown feel like Orson Wells 1984.

Keep raising price of parking until there's always spots available.

Cordon parking the shit out of everything. If you're drivinh in from Missasauga you're paying tolls and higher parking fees.

Toll the shit out of bridges.


Basically if youre in toronto and wanna drive downtown it should cost you about $40. If you're from a burb it'll be $80. And if you're a bad driver it'll cost $500.
 
Well my grandparents did it walking, barefoot in blizzard. now @Gee Wally on the otherhand, he just put the equipment down anywhere and let them build the arena around him :laugh: :laugh:


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I used to commute to downtown Toronto every day for a number years 20+ years ago. Did it a few times recently and found it similar or slightly easier. Construction or other issues can obviously cause delays no matter what you do. I actually find the drivers are what's dramatically worse today.
 
The reason I haven't gone to downtown Toronto in about 2 years, the mayor sucks and doesn't know what she's doing, random protesters everywhere, same streets have been under construction for nearly 10 years (not joking), city is filled with Ubers on the weekend, population exploded in a span of 5 years and infrastructure couldn't keep up.

The odd time I do go downtown now, we park at the airport and take the train to union station. The Gardiner is only 1 lane right now, snow hasn't been properly removed so multiple lanes are blocked with snow from the back to back storms we just had.

Altogether just a complete shit show.

Was born and raised in Toronto but that place has gone downhill over the last 9-10 years.

I don't get it , Are we at the point in society where walking is shunned upon?
It's not the walking, it's the poor maintenance of one of our major cities.
 
bitd dave andreychuk took TTC to the garden
Dave Andreychuk used to take limo's to the airport, game and his house.

I know this because my dad was a limo/cab driver at Pearson for like 30 years. Told this story many times but I will always repeat it.

He refused to pay my father his fare and cussed him out saying "Do you know who the **** I am ? I play for the Leafs, we own the city I'm not paying you ****" among other things and left. Every other player they would pick up and drop off would tip big, a few hundred bucks, Doug Gilmour gave my dad his watch as a tip lol.

My dad was a die hard leafs fan and absolutely knew who Andreychuk was.
 
The funny part about this is that all the hotels teams stay at are a 5-10 minute walk to the arena at most. Where as boarding a team bus and then driving would take longer than just walking the few blocks regardless of traffic.

Considering they're walking right underneath the CN Tower headed east towards the Skywalk or Bremner, they're either staying at the Marriott at the Rogers Centre, which is a 9 minute walk to the Scotiabank Arena or they're at the Ritz Carlton on the other side CN rails, and decided to take the scenic route down via the Rod Robbie Bridge, because otherwise they could have walked down Simcoe, which is a 12 minute walk. They're literally going for a nice walk.
 
I don't get it , Are we at the point in society where walking is shunned upon?

That's what I'm scratching my head at. Assuming the Carolina Hurricanes are staying somewhere decent and within walking distance of the arena, you don't actually need a 3 minute shuttle bus.
 
I work in the downtown near Union Station, and would never think of driving from there to the ScotiaBank Arena.

The arena is well planned because it is adjacent to the major transportation hub for the largest city in Canada, and one of the half-dozen largest in North America.

This is not a place you even think about driving to, because many tens of thousands of people commute there every day using public transit. It's much higher volume than any airport, and very well planned to handle such a high volume of passengers. Just not by car.

The Leafs don't seem to have a problem showing up on time.
 
The traffic yesterday wasn’t anything special. It’s not like they’d be trying to get on the Gardiner to get to the rink.

It’s busy like the downtown core of literally any large city. But there could have been zero cars on the road and between loading and unloading the bus, pedestrians, and traffic lights, it probably would have been faster to walk.

I’m guessing they just wanted to walk and someone made a joke about traffic.
 
My best friend is an economist who wrote his thesis on this.

It's a hilariously simple solution that no one ever seems to do because its political suicide.


Make it expensive as f***. Starting with all the bad drivers.

Clog an intersection on a red light? $500 with 5 demerit points.
Speeding in a school zone? $1500
Cameras up on every light.
Make driving downtown feel like Orson Wells 1984.

Keep raising price of parking until there's always spots available.

Cordon parking the shit out of everything. If you're drivinh in from Missasauga you're paying tolls and higher parking fees.

Toll the shit out of bridges.


Basically if youre in toronto and wanna drive downtown it should cost you about $40. If you're from a burb it'll be $80. And if you're a bad driver it'll cost $500.
The real solution is having a world class public transit system like Tokyo. Increasing the fines sounds like a ridiculous answer that does nothing for future growth problems.
 
Dave Andreychuk used to take limo's to the airport, game and his house.

I know this because my dad was a limo/cab driver at Pearson for like 30 years. Told this story many times but I will always repeat it.

He refused to pay my father his fare and cussed him out saying "Do you know who the **** I am ? I play for the Leafs, we own the city I'm not paying you ****" among other things and left. Every other player they would pick up and drop off would tip big, a few hundred bucks, Doug Gilmour gave my dad his watch as a tip lol.

My dad was a die hard leafs fan and absolutely knew who Andreychuk was.

i guess the “andreychuk is a man of the people, taking public transpo shoulder to shoulder with the fans” segment i watched on HNIC when i was a kid was just a puff piece then

now literally the only thing i admired about arguably the worst hall of famer of all time is gone.
 
i guess the “andreychuk is a man of the people, taking public transpo shoulder to shoulder with the fans” segment i watched on HNIC when i was a kid was just a puff piece then

now literally the only thing i admired about arguably the worst hall of famer of all time is gone.
Maybe he did once and while, but the limo company my dad worked for took mostly high end clients to and from locations. Mostly it was from Pearson to downtown Toronto/Niagara falls, or vice versa.

Lots of Maple Leafs, Raptors, Jays and players of other teams in that time frame. My dad never had a negative thing to say about any celebrity he ever took, even guys on TV who sometimes act like dicks like Hulk Hogan, Andreychuk was the only one and I'll never forget how pissed off he was when he came home that night, he didn't give a shit about the money it was the fact that the guy he watched on TV every night and cheered for, pulled that stunt.
 
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The real solution is having a world class public transit system like Tokyo. Increasing the fines sounds like a ridiculous answer that does nothing for future growth problems.

i think it’s both. you can have all the public infrastructure you want, but if no one wants to use it, you have to force them.

iirc multiple toronto mayoral elections have been won and lost over whether there are more folks who want public transit infrastructure vs more room to drive. the “war against cars”/“war against streetcars” being the one i most vividly remember.
 
My best friend is an economist who wrote his thesis on this.

It's a hilariously simple solution that no one ever seems to do because its political suicide.


Make it expensive as f***. Starting with all the bad drivers.

Clog an intersection on a red light? $500 with 5 demerit points.
Speeding in a school zone? $1500
Cameras up on every light.
Make driving downtown feel like Orson Wells 1984.

Keep raising price of parking until there's always spots available.

Cordon parking the shit out of everything. If you're drivinh in from Missasauga you're paying tolls and higher parking fees.

Toll the shit out of bridges.


Basically if youre in toronto and wanna drive downtown it should cost you about $40. If you're from a burb it'll be $80. And if you're a bad driver it'll cost $500.
yikes that's dangerous talk brother, the carbrains are gonna come after you with torches and pitchforks. :rant:
 
The real solution is having a world class public transit system like Tokyo. Increasing the fines sounds like a ridiculous answer that does nothing for future growth problems.
Believe it or not, tokyo's world class transit system was built with this thing called money.

And I listed a bunch of revenue generation that can fund public transportation projects.

yikes that's dangerous talk brother, the carbrains are gonna come after you with torches and pitchforks. :rant:
Correction:

Poor people who drive cars from a suburb using a infrastructure they don't pay for (Their taxes pay for their bouroughs).

The rich are gonna love driving in 50% less traffic and way more available parking spaces. Even it costs them $100 to go downtown.
 
For the next couple of years, the Gardiner Expresswy is under contruction to repair its crumbling supports. This is forcing more traffic onto city streets.

The traffic problems for the Utah game were partially caused by street closures due to the Santa Claus Parade.

The traffic problems yesterday were partially caused by the large snowfalls this week that have effectively narrowed some streets and will take up to three weeks to clear.

And given that the team posted the video at 5:38 pm before a 7:00 pm game, their gear was almost certainly already at the arena and fully set up waiting for them to arrive.

 

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