Proposal: Ducks/Avs/Isles

Jared Dunn

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I know retention has a cost to it in itself but to me it just doesn't compute how even Gibson at 3.2 would be worth a 1st round pick. Even fully expecting him to be better on another team and knowing he's been shelled for years in Anaheim he's got a somewhat long streak of subpar seasons behind him. It almost feels like if Gibson is leaving Anaheim they're going to be doing it for the player.

EDIT: I know OP value is not Gibson = 1st round pick and there's more moving parts just speaking more generally, feel like if he goes it just ends up Gibson @50% for a 2nd or something
 

biturbo19

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The Ducks ownership apparently takes issue with spending money off the roster. They seemed willing to spend right up to the cap during the last contention window, sort of putting those "internal budget" talks to rest. But there was some comment from Bob Murray towards the end of tenure about the owners being discontent with spending so much on players who aren't on the active roster. It was more an issue of long term injuries at the time but I would assume the same would apply to all forms of "dead money". So while I can understand that some retention would be necessary, I can't see the Ducks eating a full 50% for another two years, nearly 10M on top of what they need to spend on a replacement. That's why I had another team taking some of that sting in return for a pick, but I also had the Isles dumping significant cap for next year to perhaps try and offer them some additional incentive.

Fair enough, and i get that this is an issue with the Ducks. It's still just a sticking point for the Islanders i'd think, to tie that slot up on retaining just 17% or whatever, for multiple years. Perhaps the solution would actually be to just have the Isles retaining more of the cap, in exchange for a little additional sweetener of some sort? Though they're tight enough to the cap that it'd probably require significant reworking of the rest of the cap moving around in the deal.
 

Shane Diesel

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The Ducks have been garbage that entire time. The Avs simply need an average goaltender and Gibson can easily be that. If he steals any, then its a bonus.
Tell me you don't understand GSAx without telling me you don't understand GSAx.

I can point to a goaltender every single season that plays on a bad team and still puts up better numbers than Gibson. What's the excuse there?
 
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periferal

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Paying the Ducks a 1st for Gibson at 23% retention seems steep relative to the expected impact he'd have. Everything looks like the Avs front office would rather keep Georgie than pay a high price to upgrade to Gibson. I'd roll the dice for a 2nd, but not a 1st.

I was at the Avs/Lightning game last night and I think that Mel Gibson would have a big impact for the Avs in net.
 

benfranklin

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Tell me you don't understand GSAx without telling me you don't understand GSAx.

I can point to a goaltender every single season that plays on a bad team and still puts up better numbers than Gibson. What's the excuse there?
Wanted to come up with a smartass remark then looked at your post history and you're simply an ahole to everyone here. Yikes. Do you come here to let your anger out?

His stats have been garbage since 2019. We all know this. A lot of people are betting that he has mailed it in with the Ducks for a long time now and might be rejuvenated elsewhere showing the form he had back then. Or maybe he is cooked. Were guessing someone will pay the Ducks to find out.
 

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