Post-Game Talk: Duck Hunt - Leafs Win in Anaheim

[CabanaBoy5]

What I liked most about the past two games is that you can see a semblance of what will lead to success in the playoffs:

-Knies a total beast out there, amazing on winning puck battles, gumby-ed that guy over the board who came in to challenge him after that legal hit on Killington.
-I liked the third goal because the fourth line cycled and muscled Ducks' players off the puck till we scored. You can see why Holmberg will be on the playoff roster and not Robertson. He's really strong on the puck. I have no problem with him on the 4th line.
-Carlo had a great game with 5 blocks. He plays a simple game, always positionally sound, has a great stick. Perfect mirror to Tanev on that first line. Just solid.
-Great goaltending. Stolarz great on Saturday, Woll very good on Sunday.

These are elements we didn't have last playoffs, and if they continue to work on playing a simple game and allowing the top 6 to do their thing, we're going to be fine.

 

[Optimist]

 

[Anthrax442]

I was at the game. Half the crowd was Leafs people. Yet it was loud both sides. No corporate assholes. Real fun atmosphere

 

[Metroid]

No corporate assholes. Real fun atmosphere

The way it should be.

 

[Al14]

He's staying quiet cuz he is gonna be moving into NHL head office after this gig with the leafs . He's a shiester.

That's exactly what I have posted here in the past. I have also said that I believe he was recommended to our Leafs by the NHL ( Bettman ) in order to have a plant on our Leafs working for the NHL masquerading as president of operations for our Leafs.

Shanahan has only made our Leafs competitive enough to qualify for the playoffs, however NOT competitive enough to really compete for a Stanley Cup !!!

Shanahan is a fraud !!!

JMHO.

 

[Metroid]

That's exactly what I have posted here in the past. I have also said that I believe he was recommended to our Leafs by the NHL ( Bettman ) in order to have a plant on our Leafs working for the NHL masquerading as president of operations for our Leafs.

Shanahan has only made our Leafs competitive enough to qualify for the playoffs, however NOT competitive enough to really compete for a Stanley Cup !!!

Shanahan is a fraud !!!

JMHO.

Wild conspiracy but it does line up with the playing it safe MLSE corporate world way.
Love the leafs , I despise MLSE .. sucks to be torn like that.

 

[Stephen]

That's exactly what I have posted here in the past. I have also said that I believe he was recommended to our Leafs by the NHL ( Bettman ) in order to have a plant on our Leafs working for the NHL masquerading as president of operations for our Leafs.

Shanahan has only made our Leafs competitive enough to qualify for the playoffs, however NOT competitive enough to really compete for a Stanley Cup !!!

Shanahan is a fraud !!!

JMHO.

Have you seen the gate receipts from Edmonton’s Stanley Cup run last year? If the Leafs went that far the revenues would be incredible.

 

[67leafs]

Mo is still struggling……

I remember one instance where the leafs had the ducks hemmed in for 2-3 minutes……mo comes on and immediately gives it up in the offensive zone…….scoring chance nullified.

 

[thusk]

Woll doesn't look confident in the net.

Looks like he's paddling down excessively, and playing very deep, clinging to the security of eliminating holes down low while allowing an open look to a lot of net over his shoulders.

He's also playing in that ducking crouch like he's not confident of tracking the puck, taking a lower angle to see things more clearly, and also making himself look small. Sliding all over across the ice to over play situations.

Exactly, everytime duck took a shot, was looking like they had a huge hole to shot in but just missed the hole. ( like your said was looking pretty small in his net)...

and as player, you just can't play with confidence in front of a goalie playing like rhat and it's had been #1 leafs issue at time during playoff over years Samsonov/Campbell and even Andersen on some key game didn't gave up any confidence to the team in front and really hurt the team by the past. The good thing this season is leqfs having 2 good goalie so just can choose the guy giving more faith to the team and right now it's clearly Stolarz

 

[Al14]

Have you seen the gate receipts from Edmonton’s Stanley Cup run last year? If the Leafs went that far the revenues would be incredible.

Yes exactly, and this is why Shanahan has lead us NOWHERE !!! MLSE would love the profits, however they have kept Shanahan employed despite the lack of going on deep runs in the playoffs.

Shanahan should have lost his job after losing to Montreal !!!

JMHO !!!

 

[stats1]

Mo is still struggling……

I remember one instance where the leafs had the ducks hemmed in for 2-3 minutes……mo comes on and immediately gives it up in the offensive zone…….scoring chance nullified.

On Saturday, Carlo did a great job maneuvering around pressure, he passes the puck to Rielly and from a stand still position Mo just flips the puck in the air and it doesn’t make it over the blue line, the puck gets kept in and the forecheck starts again. He’s so brutal to watch this year. All he had to do was take a few strides make one simple pass or get to the red line and dump it in but he couldn’t get his energy level up to move his feet. One of laziest plays I’ve ever seen from a player

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[Donnie740]

Please stop whining about the refs.

If a team plays well enough, the refs are completely irrelevant because there’s nothing their calls or non-calls can do to change the outcome.

Anaheim had only FIVE (5) hits in the entire game. That’s a pathetically soft performance. Hard to invent penalties on a team playing non-contact hockey.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Feels good to see a nice gap between us and the Florida teams today.

 

[Sypher04]

Please stop whining about the refs.

If a team plays well enough, the refs are completely irrelevant because there’s nothing their calls or non-calls can do to change the outcome.

Anaheim had only FIVE (5) hits in the entire game. That’s a pathetically soft performance. Hard to invent penalties on a team playing non-contact hockey.

I’m not among the people complaining about the refs but this is completely incorrect.
1) a team that outplays their opponent handily can absolutely still be screwed by a bad call or non-call
2) there are many penalties that have exactly nothing to do with hitting. Stick infractions, holding, interference, the list goes on and on

 

[Confucius]

Have you seen the gate receipts from Edmonton’s Stanley Cup run last year? If the Leafs went that far the revenues would be incredible.

Edmonton made more cash than the Leafs last year. I read somewhere Oilers made 320 million, Leafs made 308 million

 

[Jojalu]

I’m not among the people complaining about the refs but this is completely incorrect.
1) a team that outplays their opponent handily can’t absolutely still be screwed by a bad call or non-call
2) there are many penalties that have exactly nothing to do with hitting. Stick infractions, holding, interference, the list goes on and on

I have maybe complained about refs a half dozen times in my life.

Last night was one of those nights. They were awful

 

[Evilhomer]

Please stop whining about the refs.

If a team plays well enough, the refs are completely irrelevant because there’s nothing their calls or non-calls can do to change the outcome.

Anaheim had only FIVE (5) hits in the entire game. That’s a pathetically soft performance. Hard to invent penalties on a team playing non-contact hockey.

As expected, that game last night may be the farthest thing from a playoff game I have ever seen, short of an exhibition game. It was literally pond hockey. There are many games like that happening right now. Lots of teams, both good and bad, going through the motions, with good teams trying to avoid injuries and bad teams playing out the string.

 

[Lightsol]

Anyone noticing lately refs are blantantly not calling infractions that involve Leaf players?? OEL gets tripped right in front of a ref no call. Numerous times in LA our guys being hooked or tripped nothing. We’re lucky to get 2 Power Plays a game and then you flip over and watch the Panthers get 6 Power Plays against Utah. The reffing over the past couple of weeks has been atrocious

Last few weeks? Try since 2016...

Remember a few years ago we almost set an NHL record for the most games in an 82 game season without a powerplay. Only reason we didn't get it is because around 5 games away, someone notified the NHL head office and suddenly the Leafs were getting a PP either immediately at the start or with 2 minutes left in the game.

 

[Lightsol]

And this is where Shanafraud has failed at doing his job !!! He should be very vocal in the media regarding how shabbily our Leafs are treated as a team. Instead, he stays quiet while he and his family still live in the U.S.A. That is very telling when it comes to HIS commitment to Toronto and our Maple Leafs !!!

JMHO.

Or, consider that both Burke AND Babcock at different times called out the ridiculous reffing, and both times it got WORSE for a few years. We aren't Florida; if someone like Shanahan or Berube did what Maurice does multiple times a year, we would get 0 calls constantly.

 

[Confucius]

Anyone noticing lately refs are blantantly not calling infractions that involve Leaf players?? OEL gets tripped right in front of a ref no call. Numerous times in LA our guys being hooked or tripped nothing. We’re lucky to get 2 Power Plays a game and then you flip over and watch the Panthers get 6 Power Plays against Utah. The reffing over the past couple of weeks has been atrocious

I don’t follow other teams but I’d imagine there are missed calls all over. Anyway as far as being penalized more or getting less PP’s. We are in the middle of the pack in both categories. So meh..

 

[Donnie740]

Last few weeks? Try since 2016...

Remember a few years ago we almost set an NHL record for the most games in an 82 game season without a powerplay. Only reason we didn't get it is because around 5 games away, someone notified the NHL head office and suddenly the Leafs were getting a PP either immediately at the start or with 2 minutes left in the game.

This site needs a sub forum for NHL Conspiracy Theories. Whining about refs would also be contained there.

 

[Lightsol]

This site needs a sub forum for NHL Conspiracy Theories. Whining about refs would also be contained there.

The Leafs have been near the NHL basement in terms of PP opportunities for the entire Matthews era. You really think three different coaches, with three different styles of play, and different lineups, and somehow we never seem to draw penalties at all? It's not a conspiracy to point out that the Leafs of all teams in the NHL seem to draw the short straw on PP opportunities every f***ing year. Every year, there are a handful of winning teams that end up in this situation, but the Leafs are the only ones who are here consistently. Either the NHL is doing it on purpose, or every ref that calls our games forgets how to do their jobs.
I'm not even going to get into how we somehow draw Wes McCauley multiple times every playoff series and somehow haven't managed to win a single game with him as a ref in 10 years...

 

[Donnie740]

The Leafs have been near the NHL basement in terms of PP opportunities for the entire Matthews era. You really think three different coaches, with three different styles of play, and different lineups, and somehow we never seem to draw penalties at all? It's not a conspiracy to point out that the Leafs of all teams in the NHL seem to draw the short straw on PP opportunities every f***ing year. Every year, there are a handful of winning teams that end up in this situation, but the Leafs are the only ones who are here consistently. Either the NHL is doing it on purpose, or every ref that calls our games forgets how to do their jobs.
I'm not even going to get into how we somehow draw Wes McCauley multiple times every playoff series and somehow haven't managed to win a single game with him as a ref in 10 years...

Let’s try to think it through logically, my friend.

What’s been the biggest complaint people have about the Leafs style of play for the past half decade? Answer: that they play a soft perimeter game instead of a “playoff style” game with hard forechecking and driving the net.

If the novice hockey fans and casual observers on hf boards can recognize this, do you suppose professional coaches, scouts and opponents might also notice it and adjust their defensive scheme against the Leafs accordingly?

Teams aren’t going to take a penalty when the Leafs are skating around in circles in the neutral zone dropping passes back into their own zone - - they’ll just sit back and let them skate harmlessly in circles.

Now ask yourself when does a defenceman most often take a penalty? Answer: when the opposing forward is driving past them hard to the net and the only option available for the defenceman is to grab onto the forward and pull him down.

It’s common knowledge that refs love calling retaliation penalties. So ask yourself when does players typically take dumb retaliation penalties? Answer: after they’ve been hammered into the boards two or three times by a tenacious forecheck.

Which is everything the Leafs didn’t do when Bozo the Keefe was in town.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Yes exactly, and this is why Shanahan has lead us NOWHERE !!! MLSE would love the profits, however they have kept Shanahan employed despite the lack of going on deep runs in the playoffs.

Shanahan should have lost his job after losing to Montreal !!!

JMHO !!!

Heh listen I don't like how long it has taken him to build a team and his decision on Dumbass (another newbie but one who never played) put us back a few years .. and MLSE hired a newbie in Shanny which is on them too .. there is lots of blame to go around here .. but I can assure you with a 100% guarantee that Brendan is a true blue Leaf fan like me and you in his heart .. you can never ever ever stop being a fan once you get to be a fan as a kid .. and Brendan was always a HUGE Leaf fan from 1st time started playing road hockey on Hillside in Mimico .. he played on Faustina and Reps for years before da Knights .. everyone who played hockey and box lacrosse in Mimico can tell you da same thing .. never question where his heart is .. you can question his roster construction and GMs but not his heart