Friedman: Duchene Mega-Thread Pt. 1 - Ottawa fielding offers, NSH & CBJ interested; Duchene sitting

[BondraTime]

No because obviously the goalies are naturally lower and to be fair Gavrikov is old enough now to where he shouldnt be a prospect he just hasnt come over yet. And the F prospects I listed arent even the top F compared to what most cbj fans say. Bemstrom and Davidsson are the guys you would likely want.

So, you're telling me that Texier and Foudy aren't the top guys and we should be going for Davidsson and Bemstrom, yet you list the first 2 as untouchable.

You're not a used car salesman are you?

 

[mikeyp24]

So, you're telling me that Texier and Foudy aren't the top guys and we should be going for Davidsson and Bemstrom, yet you list the first 2 as untouchable.

You're not a used car salesman are you?

I listed the guys I PERSONALLY think are our best guys. Tarasov is most peoples 3rd goalie in our pipeline they like a Fin I didn't list. I think most have Tex 4th and the whole boars is in love with Bemstrom but I havent bought in yet. Before him people were hoping Davidsson would make the twam thisnyear he was the final cut but again I like the other 2 who were draftes as Cs but people are claiming they will never be and they will he wings but that worh PLD and they were wrong then too sooo yeah. Everyone agrees on the D though and some might budge on Peeke but I wouldn't. You can go check out the ranks for players and mine are much more then different from fans.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Worst trade in the cap era?

The Senators have a chance to redeem themselves if they get incomprehensibly lucky with the return and a piece from it ends up being as valuable as the 1st they gave up to get him, but it's not likely.

It probably goes down as one of the worst trades of the decades, and it probably sets the Senators back years.

 

[Leafs87]

If 8X8 is on the table he should really take it cause I have a hard time seeing another team offering him even 7X9 in the offseason for some reason

 

[Halla]

gonna be funny when the avs get a top 3 pick, and then Ottawa looks for a 1C for the next decade

Just give Duchene 9x8 Melynyk, and pay it in signing bonuses just like most teams are lining up to do July 1st

56pts in 49 games....

 

[SoundAndFury]

If 8X8 is on the table he should really take it cause I have a hard time seeing another team offering him even 7X9 in the offseason for some reason

In the world where one of the best GMs in the league offered Ryan Johansen 8 mil per year years ago you don't see Duchene getting more than that in 2019? After above PPG season, in the open market? Come on. He should get it and he definitely will get it.

 

[Halla]

If 8X8 is on the table he should really take it cause I have a hard time seeing another team offering him even 7X9 in the offseason for some reason

you are kidding right? Duchene is a #1C putting up 1.14ppg

the habs will have 20 mil and cap and no one getting more than a mil or 2 to sign. They are easily gonna offer
Duchene 9 mil

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

I'd bet wherever he goes loses in the first round.

 

[SensFactor]

gonna be funny when the avs get a top 3 pick, and then Ottawa looks for a 1C for the next decade

Just give Duchene 9x8 Melynyk, and pay it in signing bonuses just like most teams are lining up to do July 1st

56pts in 49 games....

Guarantee you he will decline next season. Stone is the priority here not Duchene

 

[Hemsky4pm2]

Could we see Turris for Duchene?

I think Nashville needs a C more than any other contender.

The Islanders are another possibility. They have some pieces they could move to make it happen.

 

[boredmale]

If 8X8 is on the table he should really take it cause I have a hard time seeing another team offering him even 7X9 in the offseason for some reason

Personally I would say Duchene is probably worth in the 8.5 area over a 7 year deal but as an Islanders fan I would say screw it give him the extra 500k a year given our need for a 1b Centre

Hindsight being 20/20 the Islanders really should have went all in on O'Reilly, but I have a feeling Buffalo wanted him out of the East

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

For an unsigned Duchene rental, how about:

2019 NYI 1st round pick
2019 Calgary 2nd round pick

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

gonna be funny when the avs get a top 3 pick, and then Ottawa looks for a 1C for the next decade

Just give Duchene 9x8 Melynyk, and pay it in signing bonuses just like most teams are lining up to do July 1st

56pts in 49 games....

By the time Ottawa is actually good again, Duchene will be a declining 32 year old with a $9M cap hit.

 

[Eltuna]

By the time Ottawa is actually good again, Duchene will be a declining 32 year old with a $9M cap hit.

This is the answer right here. Stone is a different story (sign him if possible) but to me signing Duchene now at a really big number is shades of the Leafs signing Kessel to save face on the trade then having to retain on him to trade him shortly after. The biggest problem with the Duchene trade wasn’t the value (obviously still really bad value with the way things worked out), it was the timing.

 

[AvsFan29]

you are kidding right? Duchene is a #1C putting up 1.14ppg

the habs will have 20 mil and cap and no one getting more than a mil or 2 to sign. They are easily gonna offer
Duchene 9 mil

The success that Duchene has had this season, is not a good example of what you will get when signing Duchene.

He is playing way above his average. I've seen 90%+ of his games, and whoever signs him to a 9x7 or 8x7 will be very unhappy in 2-3 years.

 

[AvsFan29]

Personally I would say Duchene is probably worth in the 8.5 area over a 7 year deal

In what universe?

 

[BK201]

For an unsigned Duchene rental, how about:

2019 NYI 1st round pick
2019 Calgary 2nd round pick

Plus Aho i think it its there. I think they'll also want an ok prospect in the mix.

 

[HSF]

Worst trade in the cap era?

Kessel for Seguin and Hamilton

Toronto made the mistake of signing Kessel to stay a mediocre team

 

[Steve]

Good for the Sens. They aren’t competing anytime soon and if he’s not resigning before the deadline they need to trade him.

 

[HSF]

Is foudy good friends with formenton ? If so that's Dorion's guy

 

[Steve]

Kessel for Seguin and Hamilton

Toronto made the mistake of signing Kessel to stay a mediocre team

Thats not even the worst trade involving Seguin.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

How is Duchene extremely overrated ?

Dude is legit

He's 28, which means in the HF world he's over the hill and like 3 years away from being totally worthless and run out of the league.

 

[boredmale]

In what universe?

In a universe that teams are hard up for a 60+ point center with limited options on the market(both through UFA and trade)

 

[HSF]

Thats not even the worst trade involving Seguin.

Number 1 C and top pairing RD were given up

 

[Foppberg]