LeBrun: Dubois wants out of Winnipeg, will not sign a contract for next season

[Flair Hay]

This or equivalent has been turned down 100's of times. You are trolling at this point.

After Dubois goes somewhere else, the Habs will be back to rebuilding from pretty close to a scorched earth starting point last year.

Maybe Dach will take another huge step forward and be as good or better than PLD. It definitely could happen. I think it's far more likely they are looking a gift horse in the mouth on getting this dude.

Another team will get him for a solid price through his prime once the cap goes up a ton for Oct 2024. Winnipeg is already taking 75 cents on the dollar for the guy in all likelihood. No chance in hell he goes for 50 cents to the Habs. Like ducky already said, Chevy will risk the offer sheet, holdout and injury and wait til the deadline to get a real return.

 

[Atoyot]

Wether thay are interested or not is moot if its the best offer they get they'll take it.

"I will piss on you and you will thank me for the moisture!"

 

[Andrei79]

Highly rumoured players never go to Montreal. I've seen this story too many times to believe he'll even sniff Montreal air outside of offseason and road games.

Exactly. Sundin, Lecavalier, Hossa, Shanahan, Lapointe, Duchene, this is far from the first time. Using Montreal as leverage is a classic tactic.

That said, PLD in Boston would be an incredible heel turn.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I saw this thread had 143 pages, figured there be one big updates or information in here. Nope.

PLD has played his last game in Winnipeg.

What's next for him, as a sens fan, I hope it's Montreal. This guy is over rated as f.

My two cents for nothing.

Post edit.....Now that I said this, Dorion is gonna trade for him, sigh

We're actually discussing on our board why Ottawa isn't talked about as a destination for him. Good assets, although no 2023 1st, close to home, rising young team that actually wants to make playoffs next year....

Can't see him in Montreal. It's been a year! A f***ing year! What is there really to talk about anymore.

It'll be a relief when he finally gets traded.

 

[Shawnathon]

After Dubois goes somewhere else, the Habs will be back to rebuilding from pretty close to a scorched earth starting point last year.

Maybe Dach will take another huge step forward and be as good or better than PLD. It definitely could happen. I think it's far more likely they are looking a gift horse in the mouth on getting this dude.

Another team will get him for a solid price through his prime once the cap goes up a ton for Oct 2024. Winnipeg is already taking 75 cents on the dollar for the guy in all likelihood. No chance in hell he goes for 50 cents to the Habs. Like ducky already said, Chevy will risk the offer sheet, holdout and injury and wait til the deadline to get a real return.

Dubois decides if you get 50 cents on the dollar compared to 75 cents because he doesn’t need to sign a long term deal with whoever the highest bidder is in a trade that benefits Winnipeg. If he isn’t offered the money he thinks he’s worth by the team he wants to commit the next 8 years of his life too, then it may be in his best interest to bet on himself for a year. And after coming out and saying he’s all but done in Winnipeg, everybody knows he can’t go back to that organization without being a distraction. Winnipeg is in a pickle.

 

[Fatass]

Maybe..but...

He lives in Quebec and that would be the ultimate pissing in his bed. I know rural Quebeckers and they are not that forgot and forgiving kind. Especially under these circumstances.

Will the Habs pay PLD the Horvat + contract? He’s looking to cash in and that takes leverage. He’s created leverage. Very similar to the Horvat playbook just more public.

 

[Frank Drebin]

After Dubois goes somewhere else, the Habs will be back to rebuilding from pretty close to a scorched earth starting point last year.

Maybe Dach will take another huge step forward and be as good or better than PLD. It definitely could happen. I think it's far more likely they are looking a gift horse in the mouth on getting this dude.

Another team will get him for a solid price through his prime once the cap goes up a ton for Oct 2024. Winnipeg is already taking 75 cents on the dollar for the guy in all likelihood. No chance in hell he goes for 50 cents to the Habs. Like ducky already said, Chevy will risk the offer sheet, holdout and injury and wait til the deadline to get a real return.

One dollar on the dollar would be the Fiala, Horvat, returns.

75 cents on the dollar would be exactly what Montreal is offering, 31st pick plus b prospect/ player

 

[howkie]

Doesn't change the fact that if thats the best thing thats offered Chevy won't have any other thing but to take it.

Otherwise PLD will just sign his QO and be done with the Jets in a year.

They cab trade him at the TDL, but the return may be terrible if PLD isnt performing.


Barris. Or any prospect thats partnof our top 5-10 shouldnt be included.

You lose the deal when you deL and your hands are tied. Jets fans need to understand they won't get a dollar back for their dollar. It sucks but it's true.

What you fail to see, is that Hughes is under pressure to fix this. The fans (those who is not of HF boards, partners to the Canadiens, donors etc etc) expect PLD to be a Canadiens this summer. Here is a hometown boy willing to play for his hometown and if you fail to bring him home because you cheap out, good luck telling that to all your financial backers. It is easy to play though when you dont know the real stakes..

 

[HABitual Fan]

What you fail to see, is that Hughes is under pressure to fix this. The fans (those who is not of HF boards, partners to the Canadiens, donors etc etc) expect PLD to be a Canadiens this summer. Here is a hometown boy willing to play for his hometown and if you fail to bring him home because you cheap out, good luck telling that to all your financial backers. It is easy to play though when you dont know the real stakes..

I think you have the teams reversed, Montreal is not the team with any pressure. No shortage of fans, sponsors, STHs. Everyone seems to be on board with the course the team is taking. The only ones who will complain are the same bigots in the media who are always trying to force every local onto the team. Winnipeg on the other hand need to hit a homerun or Chevy might be looking for a new job, if he comes up on the losing end of this offseason exodus of talent from Winnipeg.

 

[howkie]

I think you have the teams reversed, Montreal is not the team with any pressure. No shortage of fans, sponsors, STHs. Everyone seems to be on board with the course the team is taking. The only ones who will complain are the same bigots in the media who are always trying to force every local onto the team. Winnipeg on the other hand need to hit a homerun or Chevy might be looking for a new job, if he comes up on the losing end of this offseason exodus of talent from Winnipeg.

Honestly, if Jets for once told the truth and said we need to rebuild and had a clear vision, the support would be strong, but now they just half-ass and fans tune out. Do a proper rebuild and fans would buy it

 

[sansabri]

What you fail to see, is that Hughes is under pressure to fix this. The fans (those who is not of HF boards, partners to the Canadiens, donors etc etc) expect PLD to be a Canadiens this summer. Here is a hometown boy willing to play for his hometown and if you fail to bring him home because you cheap out, good luck telling that to all your financial backers. It is easy to play though when you dont know the real stakes..

Dubois isn't a superstar. stakes ain't high

 

[Baksfamous112]

After Dubois goes somewhere else, the Habs will be back to rebuilding from pretty close to a scorched earth starting point last year.

Maybe Dach will take another huge step forward and be as good or better than PLD. It definitely could happen. I think it's far more likely they are looking a gift horse in the mouth on getting this dude.

Another team will get him for a solid price through his prime once the cap goes up a ton for Oct 2024. Winnipeg is already taking 75 cents on the dollar for the guy in all likelihood. No chance in hell he goes for 50 cents to the Habs. Like ducky already said, Chevy will risk the offer sheet, holdout and injury and wait til the deadline to get a real return.

Montreal already had a ton of pieces they could build around since Hughes took over. Let’s not act like Bergevin left the Habs with no future at all.

Will the Habs pay PLD the Horvat + contract? He’s looking to cash in and that takes leverage. He’s created leverage. Very similar to the Horvat playbook just more public.

I think/hope Habs breaking point for a PLD contract is 8.5M. I can live with that - That’s a bit higher than the Roope Hintz contract. Anything over that and I would prefer to pass on the player and stay the course on the rebuild. The lower his contract demands gets, the higher I am willing to give up in terms of assets

 

[Flair Hay]

Montreal already had a ton of pieces they could build around since Hughes took over. Let’s not act like Bergevin left the Habs with no future at all.

I think/hope Habs breaking point for a PLD contract is 8.5M. I can live with that - That’s a bit higher than the Roope Hintz contract. Anything over that and I would prefer to pass on the player and stay the course on the rebuild. The lower his contract demands gets, the higher I am willing to give up in terms of assets

I see him having to settle in that 8.5M range as well, maybe even closer to 8

 

[Baksfamous112]

I see him having to settle in that 8.5M range as well, maybe even closer to 8

If Dubois was willing to take close to 8 I would up my offer for sure

 

[Flair Hay]

If Dubois was willing to take close to 8 I would up my offer for sure

Maybe that's a big part of the gap in offers. I figured that 9M number is a bit flexible. Maybe that's wishful thinking on my part, haha

 

[Flair Hay]

One dollar on the dollar would be the Fiala, Horvat, returns.

75 cents on the dollar would be exactly what Montreal is offering, 31st pick plus b prospect/ player

I'm not sure I agree, but I definitely get what you're saying here. I still think 31st plus a prospect roughly the value of a 2nd is a fair amount less that what he will end up going for.

The Jets would be better off trading him away for rental value at that point. The Jets got more than 31st + B prospect for Copp...

 

[Baksfamous112]

Maybe that's a big part of the gap in offers. I figured that 9M number is a bit flexible. Maybe that's wishful thinking on my part, haha

I hope so too. If the reports that he wants to play in Montreal (and has to) for quite a while is true - and there’s no reasons to believe it is not - and he stand firm on his 9M ask then he will only have himself to blame for being traded elsewhere and not playing in Montreal.

 

[Flair Hay]

I hope so too. If the reports that he wants to play in Montreal (and has to) for quite a while is true - and there’s no reasons to believe it is not - and he stand firm on his 9M ask then he will only have himself to blame for being traded elsewhere and not playing in Montreal.

Agree 100%

 

[Linds]

Still think the Avs are in on him and would definitely give him an 8 year deal, just depends if he'd sign the extension

 

[Flair Hay]

Still think the Avs are in on him and would definitely give him an 8 year deal, just depends if he'd sign the extension

They do seem like a dark horse that aren't doing their negotiating through the media. Beautiful area, great team, they can afford to give up value, lost Landeskog...

Dubois could basically fill the role Kadri played to a tee

 

[Linds]

They do seem like a dark horse that aren't doing their negotiating through the media. Beautiful area, great team, they can afford to give up value, lost Landeskog...

Dubois could basically fill the role Kadri played to a tee

Yeah and his age fits well with the Avs core. Avs will definitely beat any offer I've seen on posted by Habs fans on this site

 

[Frank Drebin]

Yeah and his age fits well with the Avs core. Avs will definitely beat any offer I've seen on posted by Habs fans on this site

What's the avs offer?

 

[Flair Hay]

Yeah and his age fits well with the Avs core. Avs will definitely beat any offer I've seen on posted by Habs fans on this site

If this thread is any indication, that's pretty likely. Most of the return listed are more in line with what the Avs paid for Lehkonen...

And it makes sense. The Avs are looking for a player to help take a run at a Cup. The Habs are not.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Feels like PLD to Boston makes alot of sense. Bruins are poentially about to lose their top 2 centres and O'Rielly is the only UFA option. Trade Ullmark+Grzelyck/Hall and then use those assets on PLD?

 

[Flair Hay]

Feels like PLD to Boston makes alot of sense. Bruins are poentially about to lose their top 2 centres and O'Rielly is the only UFA option. Trade Ullmark+Grzelyck/Hall and then use those assets on PLD?

Heck, with the Jets losing Helle as well, getting Ulmark and Grez back for Dubois would probably be the exact type of return the Jets seem to favour. Not sure if the cap works or if it could be better, but a Boston goalie to Winnipeg this summer makes a lot of sense.