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BusinessGoose

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May 19, 2022
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Kessel made 3 scoring lines. No one could fight back. It's rare to build that.

It's super rare to have 3 lines that can work so well... Stars aligned

He was also still fast enough back then to score on breakaways/rush
 

Turin

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Kessel made 3 scoring lines. No one could fight back. It's rare to build that.

It's super rare to have 3 lines that can work so well... Stars aligned

He was also still fast enough back then to score on breakaways/rush
Even when he was moved to the top six in 2017, his main value was his powerplay work/threat to score off a clean shot. He took a lot of pressure off of Sid and Geno and ever since he got old/was traded they’ve been fighting for their life to score goals.
 

BlindWillyMcHurt

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Kessel is correctly known mostly for his insano wrister but I thought his real value on the powerplay was his playmaking ability. In some ways his wet noodle stick was a liability for shooting much else besides wristers flying down his side of the ice. Dude couldn't one-time to save his life.
 

CheckingLineCenter

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Aug 10, 2018
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Kessel is correctly known mostly for his insano wrister but I thought his real value on the powerplay was his playmaking ability. In some ways his wet noodle stick was a liability for shooting much else besides wristers flying down his side of the ice. Dude couldn't one-time to save his life.
Legit crazy he scored 400 goals without physically being able to shoot a slap shot or one timer.
 

BlindWillyMcHurt

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May 31, 2004
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Legit crazy he scored 400 goals without physically being able to shoot a slap shot or one timer.

Right? It reminded me a little of when Jagr came into the league and couldn't/wouldn't use a slapper. He integrated it eventually but he just like... never really used one to that point lol

Obviously Kessel for different reasons. That stick of his was one of a kind. Gave him an advantage with his wrister, though. Could really get some serious whip outta that flex.
 
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Gurglesons

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Trading for Kessel, Bonino, Hagelin, Daley, Cullen, Cole, Lovejoy and bringing up Rust, Sheary, Kuhnhackl, Murray all within one year is pretty insane. If you took those quality of players and put them on this older core the team would still be vastly improved. I'd say Kessel and Hornqivst were part of that teams core for sure - they don't win those Cups without Kessel, no shot even. He was arguably more important than Letang.

Instead of trading for these types of players we are acquiring Rob Scuderis / Brandon Sutters.
 
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Hockeyville USA

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Dec 30, 2023
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McKenna would be pretty good here. They say he's a McDavid talent IIRC? but he probably wont be.

Also the 33 in my name is from the previous McKenna we had.
McKenna is on Bedard pace so far through his 16 year old season, but plays a style closer to McDavid. While he isn't on that level yet, he appears to be on track to become MacKinnon level at the least. Note that McKenna is a December 2007 birthday (thus he was the youngest in his grade and hockey birthyear), so what he's doing in junior is even more impressive. His extra year in the Dub (2025-26) will be nasty & quite frankly unfair with how good he is.
 
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DesertedPenguin

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Mar 11, 2007
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McKenna and Oliwa were two tough customers. Wish they had something like that now.
Those types of guys don't exist in the NHL anymore. Oliwa had 45 in 410. McKenna had 32 points in 373 NHL games.

For reference, Jansen Harkins has 31 points in 199 career games.
 

66-30-33

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Jan 24, 2006
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McKenna is on Bedard pace so far through his 16 year old season, but plays a style closer to McDavid. While he isn't on that level yet, he appears to be on track to become MacKinnon level at the least. Note that McKenna is a December 2007 birthday (thus he was the youngest in his grade and hockey birthyear), so what he's doing in junior is even more impressive. His extra year in the Dub (2025-26) will be nasty & quite frankly unfair with how good he is.
Not bad.
 

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