Proposal: Draisaitl, Nurse

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Let me start by saying I wish I thought of this before the draft. If you want to say “if it’s picks and not the selection they made” that works. In that same vein, you’d assume they have Geekie still as an offer. I’m just trying to get the gist of a Drai trade


if even the gist is acceptable if worked then what would need to change?


First: the assumption here is Edmonton tried to re sign Drai, and couldn’t get it done. They’re afraid he’ll leave, and teams assume this

Second: people exaggerate the “window closing.” Maybe. I think a youth reset if timed right could avoid catastrophe (losing Drai to free agency) for Edmonton and stay competitive medium term by spreading the spent cap through the roster on younger instead of Draisaitl, McDavid, Bouchard with raises + Nurse

Edmonton doesn’t just need cheap support, but ideally cheap because they’re young and growing not old and “only worth that”
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Edmonton: Darnell Nurse w o retention (useful player, but imo a cap dump net negative) + Draisaitl


Utah: Sean Durzi (RFA puck moving defensemen, RH; last year he might have been top 4 on deep teams but he was thrust into the top pair and performaned admirably enough)

2-3 of Utahs cheap and or fairly paid young players not named Keller or Cooley (we’re assuming Utah is trying to take a step forward, you can take some of, but not literallt all their 3 best forwards)

Multiple high draft picks/ or now prospects who can be kept of flipped.



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I debated making this “proposal” or value of, it’s my first real try on this board lol.


I think in terms of, like, you don’t always get exactly what the player is worth in these extreme trades. Would you accept a trade along these lines if the alternative is losing Drai in free agency ?
 
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jonlin

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If the offer was Maccelli, Schmaltz and Durzi + picks, Edmonton should definately take it. They would save close to 10M cap and also get very good players for 1 elite + 1 dump.
 
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jonlin

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Not remotely. He's virtually unmovable, which is why I wouldn't include him in a Draisaitl trade that results in diminishing the return. If you have to trade Leon, you do it solo and get the best return possible.
If Drai+Nurse actually would fetch Macelli, Durzi and Schmaltz+pics - You go for it.

Maccelli LW 82gp 17g 40a 57p 23yrs 3.425M RFA 2026

Schmaltz C 79gp 22g 39a 61p 28yrs 5.85M UFA 2026

Durzi D 76gp 9g 32a 41p 25yrs RFA

Theese numbers were in Arizona. I`d bet my house on that their numbers would be a lot better in Edmonton.
Ooh - and with the saving you get from not paying Nurse 9.25M until 2030 and Draisaitl from 2025 forward 13M, You can actually add 1-2 impact-players more.
 

Davo Ikinzom

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If Drai+Nurse actually would fetch Macelli, Durzi and Schmaltz+pics - You go for it.

Maccelli LW 82gp 17g 40a 57p 23yrs 3.425M RFA 2026

Schmaltz C 79gp 22g 39a 61p 28yrs 5.85M UFA 2026

Durzi D 76gp 9g 32a 41p 25yrs RFA

Theese numbers were in Arizona. I`d bet my house on that their numbers would be a lot better in Edmonton.

lmao
 

BLNY

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If Drai+Nurse actually would fetch Macelli, Durzi and Schmaltz+pics - You go for it.

Maccelli LW 82gp 17g 40a 57p 23yrs 3.425M RFA 2026

Schmaltz C 79gp 22g 39a 61p 28yrs 5.85M UFA 2026

Durzi D 76gp 9g 32a 41p 25yrs RFA

Theese numbers were in Arizona. I`d bet my house on that their numbers would be a lot better in Edmonton.
They all can't play with McDavid. Edmonton gets a better return if Draisaitl is moved alone. Getting an MVP that would immediately be the face of the organization has to hurt a bit. You have to give up something you're reluctant to.

As much as the Oilers might like to be free of Nurse, it shouldn't be at the expense of max return for Leon. My two cents. Peace.
 

McWeber

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Yes - we are actually laughing at you if you dont uderstand, that Edmonton`s and Toronto`s route wont bring championships. Just keep your stuff together and in 2yrs, when Nurse get 9.25M, Draisaitl 13-13,5M and McDavid 16M, let`s see how the rest of the team looks?
Edmonton's route got pretty damn close to a championship. Doubling down on that with an even better roster sure seems better than trading Draisaitl for the scraps of a team composed of scraps. The benefit of having Drai and McDavid at 10+ mil is that other players often take less for the opportunity to play with them.
 

GhostfaceWu

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Yes - we are actually laughing at you if you dont uderstand, that Edmonton`s and Toronto`s route wont bring championships. Just keep your stuff together and in 2yrs, when Nurse get 9.25M, Draisaitl 13-13,5M and McDavid 16M, let`s see how the rest of the team looks?
Lol an Arizona fan trying to tell the rest of the league's fanbases how to win champions is the lmao part. Literally got a toe save by bobrovski from sending a game seven to ot in the finals but you can't win with super superstars.
 

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If Drai+Nurse actually would fetch Macelli, Durzi and Schmaltz+pics - You go for it.

Maccelli LW 82gp 17g 40a 57p 23yrs 3.425M RFA 2026

Schmaltz C 79gp 22g 39a 61p 28yrs 5.85M UFA 2026

Durzi D 76gp 9g 32a 41p 25yrs RFA

Theese numbers were in Arizona. I`d bet my house on that their numbers would be a lot better in Edmonton.
Ooh - and with the saving you get from not paying Nurse 9.25M until 2030 and Draisaitl from 2025 forward 13M, You can actually add 1-2 impact-players more.

No, you don't. Holy lord.

Leon Draisaitl is one of the top 3 players in hockey. If you really want to bust balls, let's call him top 5.

You're not attaching Darnell Nurse to him and taking this package. You are trading Draisaitl for a blockbuster package and you're dealing a first with Nurse to take on a similar type of bad deal, but with less money on it.

Do you actually believe Nurse is tradeable without Drai?
Maybe, maybe not. I do know that if I have Leon Draisaitl and I've decided to trade him... I'm not packaging him with what would be considered a toxic asset.

Lastly, Edmonton was the better team in the Cup finals. They lost because Bob tremendously outplayed Skinner in games 1-3 and they held on in game 7. Edmonton wins that series 8 out of 10 times.
 

Kamus

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Yes - we are actually laughing at you if you dont uderstand, that Edmonton`s and Toronto`s route wont bring championships. Just keep your stuff together and in 2yrs, when Nurse get 9.25M, Draisaitl 13-13,5M and McDavid 16M, let`s see how the rest of the team looks?
I will bet you $100 right now that the Oilers will go further than any one team you pick.
 

Garbageyuk

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No one is signing up for 6 years of Nurse to get 1 year of Draisaitl, let alone giving up assets on top.

There’s no way to move Nurse because he’s a 4-5 D who’s paid like a perennial Norris contender, and he has 6 years left on his contract.

You realize NHL teams are businesses whose primary purpose is to generate revenue, right? Tell me how not only acquiring, but giving up assets for a $9.25M 4-5D is good for business?
 

Garbageyuk

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The fact that Cooley or Keller isnt involved in an offer is a joke. Sorry this isnt MLB, you have to actually and whats being offered, just isnt it.
You wouldn’t even get Cooley or Keller for 1 year of Draisaitl by himself, not from a rebuilding team like Utah.

With Nurse attached, it’s a total non-starter, even with the inclusion of Draisaitl because, again, he’s only got 1 year left.

No team is signing up for 6 years of Nurse for 1 year of Draisaitl.
 
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DingDongCharlie

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Yes - we are actually laughing at you if you dont uderstand, that Edmonton`s and Toronto`s route wont bring championships. Just keep your stuff together and in 2yrs, when Nurse get 9.25M, Draisaitl 13-13,5M and McDavid 16M, let`s see how the rest of the team looks?

Oh yeah the team that just went to game 7 of the finals and lost by a single goal can't possibly compete for a Cup....no it's you that doesn't understand. You don't move a franchise level C to move a cap dump, no matter how bad the cap dump is.

I think you’re an idiot if you’re using Leon Draisaitl to trade Darnell Nurse.

Being too kind.
 
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DingDongCharlie

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If Drai+Nurse actually would fetch Macelli, Durzi and Schmaltz+pics - You go for it.

Maccelli LW 82gp 17g 40a 57p 23yrs 3.425M RFA 2026

Schmaltz C 79gp 22g 39a 61p 28yrs 5.85M UFA 2026

Durzi D 76gp 9g 32a 41p 25yrs RFA

Theese numbers were in Arizona. I`d bet my house on that their numbers would be a lot better in Edmonton.
Ooh - and with the saving you get from not paying Nurse 9.25M until 2030 and Draisaitl from 2025 forward 13M, You can actually add 1-2 impact-players more.

Durzi is signed for 6m so we get near no cap relief this coming year. Jump ahead to next season and Schmaltz will be in the last year of his deal. This offer is pure garbage.
 

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