Post-Game Talk: Drai speedruns Duck Hunt

[TheNumber4]

1) The league save percentage is .900 so by the literal definition he is below, lol.

2) Did Stu forget when the season started?

1) now stretch the sample to 2 years. And realize he was always going to get back to what he is, average to slightly above. Which is playing out right in front of our eyes for a 3rd year in a row.

2) the entire team took the biggest kick in the nuts you could possible take in hockey with SCF game 7 loss. Our 6-0 drubbing to start the season (Stu’s worst performance by the way) was a result of the entire team being shit to start. Or do you not remember the “is McDavid washed” discussions as we all tried to figure out wtf was happening.

 

[Soundwave]

Bring up Savoie, and go like this.

Nuge - McDavid - Arvidsson
Podkolzin - Draisaitl - Savoie
Hyman - Janmark - Brown
Skinner - Henrique - Perry

Do it.

 

[UHHHH SON]

I mean he is average....he has a .907 save % since November 1st
again, you don't like him and seems like you wish he was Shesterkin but he isn't

I wish he was one of these average guys that you’re talking about. Not a Shesterkin. We can have a goalie achieving a much higher save percentage given our top of the league defensive numbers. How does a team like the ducks have a goalie posting a higher save percentage than Skinner? Plus he makes less money.

 

[TheNumber4]

Hey who gave you my picture.

 

[Dirk Dangler]

Imagine comparing Hasek to Stuart Skinner, hahahaha. @Drivesaitl are we drunk? What is happening in this forum tonight???

It’s like a bunch of posters had new year resolutions to double down on the Skinner support

 

[OilerTyler]

We arent looking for him to bail out our offense constantly.

We're looking for him to not lose us games like he loves to do.

And Anaheim had 3 breakaways, 1 muffin shot that went in, and 2 posts.

One post actually. Unless you disagree with the official boxscore. Anaheim going 1/3 on breakaways isn't the negative that you think it is by the way.

And if you don't want Skinner to lose us games you should be pretty happy with his play as of late. And you definitely shouldn't be complaining in a thread where he posted a 0.931.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I mean he is average....he has a .907 save % since November 1st
again, you don't like him and seems like you wish he was Shesterkin but he isn't

I guess if you remove a bunch of bad games to make his stats look better, they'll look better.

If you remove all the games McDrai have 0 points, their stats look way better too.

One post actually. Unless you disagree with the official boxscore. Anaheim going 1/3 on breakaways isn't the negative that you think it is by the way.

And if you don't want Skinner to lose us games you should be pretty happy with his play as of late. And you definitely shouldn't be complaining in a thread where he posted a 0.931.

He posted a .931 and that second goal can still be a terrible goal to give up.

Both can be true.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Your second point makes no sense.

Should we just be happy with below average goaltending, because it’s not going to change?

I’m saying you and what you want doesn’t matter when it comes to the Oilers.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I’m saying you and what you want doesn’t matter when it comes to the Oilers.

Why are you even on a discussion board then?

None of these posts on here make a difference.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I've already said it, but he's really coming along.

 

[TheNumber4]

Let’s not act like Leaf’s fans here with hypothetical series wins with these hypothetical Skinner failings.

If Skinner was as bad as everyone says, can we keep it to actual fails (goal 2 tonight), and not hypothetical fails (1 or 2 posts). Or hypothetical almost giving away the puck on a stick handle.

Things either happened or they didn’t happen. Almost happened doesn’t count.

 

[Dirk Dangler]

It’s how our team is built.

If people want it the other way, go be a rags fan I guess, cause Shesty better be carrying with his ridiculous cap hit.

I do agree on this point. Stu is worth his contract for the most part. It's not his fault that he's been asked to backstop a cup contender. I just think having an appropriately paid sub 3 million dollar goaltender is the wrong way to build a cup contender.

And my biggest fear for this team going forward is his next contract going forward. At the start of the season there was chatter about comparing Stu and his next contract to Swayman's new one. This would be a catastrophe of epic proportions.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

This average talk is nonsense, his physical abilities aren’t up to snuff. I would rather Pickard get the reigns. I’m really starting to think the players agree. Lots of weird facial expressions from them and weird antics from Skinner. There has to be tension brewing.

Pickard lost to this exact same team nary a week ago.

 

[TheNumber4]

I do agree on this point. Stu is worth his contract for the most part. It's not his fault that he's been asked to backstop a cup contender. I just think having an appropriately paid sub 3 million dollar goaltender is the wrong way to build a cup contender.

And my biggest fear for this team going forward is his next contract going forward. At the start of the season there was chatter about comparing Stu and his next contract to Swayman's new one. This would be a catastrophe of epic proportions.

Trust me, my feelings on Stu would pull a 180 if he got paid Swayman numbers. But I really don’t see that happening. Sway was challenging Vezina Ullmark for his job. Whatever that chatter was, was not based in reality.

And yes it’s not his fault he’s performing avaerage as an average paid goalie. That’s why the Stu hate should be dialed down. If anything, it was the Campbell disaster that could have tanked this McD experiment for good. We should be happy that our 4th rd pick emerged, credit should be given, not vitriol.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Pickard lost to this exact same team nary a week ago.

And, to be frank, he looked like an AHL goalie in that game, imo.

 

[McDoused]

But but but he’s a McDavid and PP merchant apparently. Put respect on Draisaitl’s f***ing name. MVP MVP MVP.

Mackinnon has 11 empty net points. Draisaitl only has 2. Take those away and thats 55 points for Draisaitl and 53 for MacKinnon.

 

[McDoused]

It's sad how many people on here actually want Skinner (and the Oilers with him) to fail just so they can be "right". That's not what being a fan is.

No one wants Skinner to fail. He didn't have a good game despite having a good save percentage. I'm not a Skinner fan but he's been way too inconsistent. I want nothing more than for him to succeed but to this point the he hasn't been good enough over the course of the year.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Skinner's night is an interesting one. I'm not going to bitch about a .930, but both goals against were Ugly (and earned that capital U).

Plus they highlighted Skinner's main weakness: For a goalie that relies so much on his positioning vs. reflexes to make saves, his focus wanders and he ends up a step behind where he should be far too often.

Which is especially annoying, because you can look at something like the Tampa game, where he's not making lunging saves, but his positioning was near flawless the entire night. He can do it, but at this point it's not with any week-to-week consistency.

 

[Oilhawks]

I've already said it, but he's really coming along.

Starting to tear up the AHL. He should definitely get a look sooner than later

 

[Giggleplex]

 

[Soundwave]

The forward combos are still a bit worrisome, not a lot of chemistry. Arvidsson immediately scored when put with McDavid, we should try to give that a go, try some different things at least.

Podkolzin McDavid Arvidsson
Henrique Draisaitl Kapanen
Skinner RNH Hyman
Perry Janmark Brown

I'd don't really mind the idea of using Hyman as a catalyst for line 3 at least temporarily.

I would let Savoie cook a bit longer in the AHL, let his confidence grow, maybe bring up Philp.

 

[TheNumber4]

And, to be frank, he looked like an AHL goalie in that game, imo.

Yup. A bad outside wrister goal under his bad. And mis-positioned butterfly on a wrap around. I think maybe picks worst performance visually.

 

[UHHHH SON]

Pickard lost to this exact same team nary a week ago.

Skinner lost to Winnipeg, Vegas, LA, Carolina, Florida, Minnesota, Dallas and Toronto.

 

[TheNumber4]

No one wants Skinner to fail. He didn't have a good game despite having a good save percentage. I'm not a Skinner fan but he's been way too inconsistent. I want nothing more than for him to succeed but to this point the he hasn't been good enough over the course of the year.

I know you don’t. And I know alot of poster that don’t but would still like to see him upgraded on. But it’s not “no one”. There are some who relish his failure, it’s like party time in here for them when he fails.

 

[Soundwave]

McDavid needs to start shooting too, he's back into one of his "never gonna shoot" spells.

Had the puck in prime position to shoot at least two times in the near slot and instead chose to pass out to Drai and another time to do a drop pass.

Like c'mon dude. There's no team that loves to pass out of a high danger shot opportunity more than this team.

Lets do a New Years Resolution, no drop passes for at least a month, please.