Draft steals from the limited sample sizes so far for 2024 picks in first round and post-first round?

[Bjornar Moxnes]

For the first round, I'd go:

1. Dickinson (Nothing more needs to be said, just a legendary season).
2. Greentree (Exceptionally dangerous offensive player).
3. Parascak (Great D+1 so far).

After the first round:
1. Kieron Walton (Excellent D+1 where he's pretty much doing everything, while showing skill, smarts, and is still growing into his massive frame, could very well be the steal of the later rounds).
2. Jacob Battaglia (Strong D+1).
3. Kevin He (Had a ridiculously insane start, and while he's cooled off, he's still playing great).

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[Fixed to Ruin]

I would vote for a couple of Chicago 3rd round draft picks in Spellacy and Pridham.

 

[SabresFan429]

Artamonov looks pretty good for a 2nd round pick.

 

[Mitch nylander]

My risers from every Round:

1st Round:
- Sam Dickinson - I had this guy top 5 and was perplexed he dropped as far as he did. Him and Levshunov we're always the best 2 defensemen of this draft.

2nd Round:
- Nikita Artamonov - Exceptional season right now in the KHL. High-motor, high IQ forward. He'll be an NHLer.
- Harrison Brunicke - Almost made the pens this year, just a great skater with excellent edge work. Deceptive with the puck as well.

3rd Round:
- Aj Spellacy - Incredible skater, easily the best of his draft. Not gonna be a top 6 guy, just a valuable two-third liner.
- Ilya Protas - This guy is huge. Like his brother, I see him as a projectable middle six power forward who can slot in anywhere. Having a great rookie OHL season.

4th Round:
-Kevin He: Great OHL season, goal scoring machine. Relentless on the puck as well.
-Aron Kivharju: Never should have dropped. I like kid, always have. He's a great skater, and is just such an intelligent player.

5th Round:
- Justin Poirier: Look he might be too small for the big leagues, but you can't deny the results. Almost a goal per game and almost 2 points per game. He's dynamic.
- Luke Misa: Very good skater, with great vision. I think he's got projectable skills.

6th Round:
- Hunter St Martin: Looked amazing at the panthers camp. Gonna be a workhorse bottom 6er, but I think he's very projectable.
-Timur Kol: Meat and potatoes defender, but he could easily be a guy like Edmundson. Someone to block shots, play physical and make simple plays.

7th Round:
- Nikita Prischepov: Played some games in the bigs this year. Relentless forechecker.
- William Nicholl: This guy can skate. I mean he's blazing fast. One of the better skaters picked in the draft, and now the scoring is catching up to him.

 

[BigToe]

Tarin Smith
Clarke Caswell
Miguel Marques
Noel Fransen
Oskar Vuollet

 

[Captain97]

Michael Hage at 21 looks really good so far. 9 goals + 8 assists for 17 points in 13 games so far.

Edit: wanted to include this in the NCAA

 

[wetcoast]

For the first round, I'd go:

1. Dickinson (Nothing more needs to be said, just a legendary season).
2. Greentree (Exceptionally dangerous offensive player).
3. Parascak (Great D+1 so far).

After the first round:
1. Kieron Walton (Excellent D+1 where he's pretty much doing everything, while showing skill, smarts, and is still growing into his massive frame, could very well be the steal of the later rounds).
2. Jacob Battaglia (Strong D+1).
3. Kevin He (Had a ridiculously insane start, and while he's cooled off, he's still playing great).

So 5 of the 6 biggest steals are from the OHL?

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

Luca Marrelli has been looking promising for a 3rd round pick so far, but it's early days.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Ducks got tarin smith in the 3rd round (79)

Tarin smith- 6’2 190 LHD
7 goals 30 points in 26 games with a +24
- top 4 upside

I’d say our 3rd round in general was really good

Ethan Proczyn has 18 goals in 27 games as a younger center with an edge to his game …. Looks like could have 3-4 line nhl upside.

Masse 9 goals in 11 games, was injured most the season but I was comfortable picking masse at our 29 pick

 

[Topcheese31]

1 round :

- S.Dickinson
- M. Hage
- L.Greentree

2 Round

- N.Artamonov

3 Round

- I. Protas
- T.Smith
- M.Marques

4 round

- Kevin He

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I’ll give one that hasn’t been mentioned. Cole Hutson. Pick 43 to the Caps. Went a round too late. It’s going to be the same type of thing as Lane. He’s like 3rd or 4th in the NCAA in minutes per game as a freshman on one of the best teams in the country and scoring at nearly 1PPG. Would’ve gone a round higher if Trevor Connelly didn’t lose USA the Gold at the U18 Worlds with a selfish illegal hit.

I don’t agree with the people saying Spellacy. Sometimes I can’t keep up with the logic on this website. I feel like there are some wildly overstating the value of his preseason with the Hawks. Did he lead the team in scoring or I missed something? He looked physical and fast and all that. Great, he ran around and made himself known. At the same time, he needs to show he can play hockey before we start anointing him as some steal. 16 points in 24 junior games is some steal for a third round pick? Yeah, I don’t think so. And I’m not saying he can’t make the NHL as a fourth liner. I believe he can, but I don’t see how he’s changed the perception in a positive way. It was always going to be less about can he make himself known and more about does he have true NHL level smarts and ability with the puck, which I wouldn’t say he’s answered this season so far.

 

[dgibb10]

So 5 of the 6 biggest steals are from the OHL?

OHL allows you to put up the kind of gaudy stats that get you on a list like this yes.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

I’ll give one that hasn’t been mentioned. Cole Hutson. Pick 43 to the Caps. Went a round too late. It’s going to be the same type of thing as Lane. He’s like 3rd or 4th in the NCAA in minutes per game as a freshman on one of the best teams in the country and scoring at nearly 1PPG. Would’ve gone a round higher if Trevor Connelly didn’t lose USA the Gold at the U18 Worlds with a selfish illegal hit.

I don’t agree with the people saying Spellacy. Sometimes I can’t keep up with the logic on this website. I feel like there are some wildly overstating the value of his preseason with the Hawks. Did he lead the team in scoring or I missed something? He looked physical and fast and all that. Great, he ran around and made himself known. At the same time, he needs to show he can play hockey before we start anointing him as some steal. 16 points in 24 junior games is some steal for a third round pick? Yeah, I don’t think so. And I’m not saying he can’t make the NHL as a fourth liner. I believe he can, but I don’t see how he’s changed the perception in a positive way. It was always going to be less about can he make himself known and more about does he have true NHL level smarts and ability with the puck, which I wouldn’t say he’s answered this season so far.

He's a high floor bottom 6 type who will play on a PK and be a physical threat. He's never going to score a ton of points, unless he finishes on more breakaways that he generates.

Outcomes for Spellacy range from Great Value Michael Grabner to Josh Anderson to Andrew Shaw.

 

[CycloneSweep]

William Nicholl- 7th round pick, still 18
Has 20 points in 65 games last year
This year he is 10-16-26 +14 in 26 games. Third in team scoring.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

He's a high floor bottom 6 type who will play on a PK and be a physical threat. He's never going to score a ton of points, unless he finishes on more breakaways that he generates.

Outcomes for Spellacy range from Great Value Michael Grabner to Josh Anderson to Andrew Shaw.

Bottom six? Don’t you have to score to play on the third line? 16 points in 24 junior games the year after being drafted projects as a player who is looking like a real possibility to play on the third line?

To me I think he’s fourth line only, which has value, if you get a good fourth liner. But I also think we can’t ignore that you have to actually be able to have hockey talent and not just be an athlete to be a good fourth liner. I think those are real questions and I think pointing to his junior scoring isn’t divorced from that. He may never be a big scorer, but even players who aren’t big scorers need to show some semblance of ability with their puck skills and hockey smarts to not end up being a huge drain on their team’s possession.

 

[JiricekSaveUs]

Dickinson’s offense has improved his projection from at two-way top 4 defenseman to a legit top pair if not number one guy.

Aratamanov has to move up in a redraft.

But the guy that I’m most impressed by has been Hage. I still think he’s a winger in the NHL, but I think he has a chance to be a legit first line forward given his skillset and production.

 

[wetcoast]

OHL allows you to put up the kind of gaudy stats that get you on a list like this yes.

Okay Steve.

 

[gifted88]

Nate Misskey has had an impressive start. Not bad for a 5th round pick.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Ducks got tarin smith in the 3rd round (79)

Tarin smith- 6’2 190 LHD
7 goals 30 points in 26 games with a +24
- top 4 upside

I’d say our 3rd round in general was really good

Ethan Proczyn has 18 goals in 27 games as a younger center with an edge to his game …. Looks like could have 3-4 line nhl upside.

Masse 9 goals in 11 games, was injured most the season but I was comfortable picking masse at our 29 pick

Great early returns on the three third rounders, and I have to add the Ducks 6th rounder (182 ovr) Austin Burnevik. 7 goals and 12 points in thirteen games to start his freshman season, putting the 6'4 winger in great company among the top u20 scorers in the NCAA.

Drafted in his second year of eligibility after 40 goals in 61 USHL games last year, the kid clearly has a scoring knack.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Ducks got tarin smith in the 3rd round (79)

Tarin smith- 6’2 190 LHD
7 goals 30 points in 26 games with a +24
- top 4 upside

I’d say our 3rd round in general was really good

Ethan Proczyn has 18 goals in 27 games as a younger center with an edge to his game …. Looks like could have 3-4 line nhl upside.

Masse 9 goals in 11 games, was injured most the season but I was comfortable picking masse at our 29 pick

I have such little confidence in the Q that I tend to take the "wait and see until they start playing pro" approach with Q guys. I had no idea how Luneau was going to translate and he's looked solid in the limited sample I've seen. We'll see with Masse, but the upside is certainly there.

 

[MHO]

My risers from every Round:

1st Round:
- Sam Dickinson - I had this guy top 5 and was perplexed he dropped as far as he did. Him and Levshunov we're always the best 2 defensemen of this draft.

2nd Round:
- Nikita Artamonov - Exceptional season right now in the KHL. High-motor, high IQ forward. He'll be an NHLer.
- Harrison Brunicke - Almost made the pens this year, just a great skater with excellent edge work. Deceptive with the puck as well.

3rd Round:
- Aj Spellacy - Incredible skater, easily the best of his draft. Not gonna be a top 6 guy, just a valuable two-third liner.
- Ilya Protas - This guy is huge. Like his brother, I see him as a projectable middle six power forward who can slot in anywhere. Having a great rookie OHL season.

I just gotta push back on Protas. He's huge and is scoring but he looks incredibly awkward on his skates. Unless he improves his skating, I don't see him as an NHL player.

 

[Dump N Chase]

I just gotta push back on Protas. He's huge and is scoring but he looks incredibly awkward on his skates. Unless he improves his skating, I don't see him as an NHL player.

Skating is probably one of the "easiest" attribut to improve for an hockey player. I am sure the Caps will put time to correct his skating like they did with his brother.

 

[Topcheese31]

I just gotta push back on Protas. He's huge and is scoring but he looks incredibly awkward on his skates. Unless he improves his skating, I don't see him as an NHL player.

I do not agree with your statement. His skating is below average that's for sure, like @Dump N Chase said, skating is the easiest attribute to improved. A lot of nhl player have skating below average but their hockey IQ is great (Robertson is a great exemple). I think it's the case with Protas. In a redraft, he's going at the end of the 1st round or second round at best.

 

[MHO]

I do not agree with your statement. His skating is below average that's for sure, like @Dump N Chase said, skating is the easiest attribute to improved. A lot of nhl player have skating below average but their hockey IQ is great (Robertson is a great exemple). I think it's the case with Protas. In a redraft, he's going at the end of the 1st round or second round at best.

Yeah I remember Robertson had the same issue and did improve his skating. I don't have any idea how easy that is but if improving your skating is doable, then sure. But I don't really see where we disagree. I said that if he doesn't improve his skating, then he won't be an NHL player. I never said he can't improve his skating and I have no idea what the Capitals did with his brother.

 

[Boonk]

Jets fan here. Kevin He and Kieron Walton have been shredding it in the OHL. Excellent value picks in the 4th and 6th rounds and I hope they continue developing.

Elsewhere, guys like Michael Hage and Liam Greentree should not have fallen that late into the 1st. Artamonov falling into the 2nd is also ridiculous.