NHL Draft lottery race - Bruins currently have 4th Pick

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Really strange to read "Bergy was not a number one center" when it was called the damn Perfection Line and he owned the Selke but whatever. Krejci was also a number 1 center. Perfect one two punch. The complete 2 way guy and the incredibly skilled offensive guy (who could also play D). What we lacked was wingers to play with them at various times. How many times and how many picks did we trade trying to get the new Horton?

Had Horton not gotten done in early we'd likely have another cup or two. Same thing if Nash gives us a year or two. And I am positive we'd have beaten Chicago if Bergeron had been healthy.

But anyway, I'm warming to Martone. Maybe we actually don't need a center? So, for me, Schaefer, Misa, Desnoyers, Hagens, Martone and then idk I'm back to looking closely at Bear and McQueen but I hope we are top 5.

I don’t know how you can go Bear over Frondell, but ok. McQueen feels like a guy to me that will be a surprise pick above us and pushes one of the others down.

 

[KnightofBoston]

I mean you can say that... but McAvoy has a NMC. Lindholm does, too, and is damaged goods until he proves otherwise. How much trade value does Lorhei have? You certainly should poke around, but I'm skeptical. Either way, it's only a 9.5% chance at 1OA so probably a non-issue.

If the bruins pick Schaefer, Lorhei is 100% going as Schaefer is a L d and Lorhei would hold the most value in a trade for a center


33 points last I checked, 6 5 and can skate and move picks like the wind. Yea. A team will take him.

Dark horse though is they get first overall and trade it outright in a blockbuster at the draft for a center right away

 

[KillerMillerTime]

If the bruins pick Schaefer, Lorhei is 100% going as Schaefer is a L d and Lorhei would hold the most value in a trade for a center


33 points last I checked, 6 5 and can skate and move picks like the wind. Yea. A team will take him.

Dark horse though is they get first overall and trade it outright in a blockbuster at the draft for a center right away

Bruins would get Will Smith, Graf, Lund and Thrun for Schaefer for certain. What a fever dream for Sweeney. An entire line and a LD man of Greater Bostonians. Maybe they get a gig on WGBH

Seriously, Boston would get Smith and either Lund or 2nd Round pick for him. Lohrei isn't getting you that.

 

[Fenway]

 

[neelynugs]

race updated in post #1

 

[Kalus]

They are sitting at 5th worst which, statistically, means most likely the 6th pick (24.5% chance to pick 5th, 44% chance to pick 6th). They really need to hit on this one, hoping they play well but lose the last three games close in regulation. Would be best if they can finish 4th worst where they will most likely pick 5th. For what it is worth, a lot of the publications show a drop off in talent right around the 5th pick.

 

[KnightofBoston]

Bruins would get Will Smith, Graf, Lund and Thrun for Schaefer for certain. What a fever dream for Sweeney. An entire line and a LD man of Greater Bostonians. Maybe they get a gig on WGBH

Seriously, Boston would get Smith and either Lund or 2nd Round pick for him. Lohrei isn't getting you that.

to be clear, Lorhei would hold the most value in terms of d-men currently on the team and I imagine as high as they are on Lorhei, they would keep Schaefer over him.

just hoping he doesn't become another Ryan Murray or Larsson

 

[Number8]

Neither Krejci nor Bergy were true #1 centers, although the former led the playoffs in scoring in 2011 and 2013. They were both 1.5 centers. The beauty of those teams was that they had BOTH of them, which made up for not having a true #1 center. Bergy was at least a generational 200-foot player. It's a huge stretch to think that Desnoyers could be as good.

We need the Flyers to win some games.

Come on...............

Every team in the League -- bar none -- would have given a king's ransom for that so called 1.5C Bergeron.

By definition every year there are 30 or so "#1 Centers" so I get it that there is a wide range in quality/strength.

However, using your bar, apparently there were only two or three true #1 Centers in the League while Bergie played.

 

[JHockey14]

Really strange to read "Bergy was not a number one center" when it was called the damn Perfection Line and he owned the Selke but whatever. Krejci was also a number 1 center. Perfect one two punch. The complete 2 way guy and the incredibly skilled offensive guy (who could also play D). What we lacked was wingers to play with them at various times. How many times and how many picks did we trade trying to get the new Horton?

Had Horton not gotten done in early we'd likely have another cup or two. Same thing if Nash gives us a year or two. And I am positive we'd have beaten Chicago if Bergeron had been healthy.

But anyway, I'm warming to Martone. Maybe we actually don't need a center? So, for me, Schaefer, Misa, Desnoyers, Hagens, Martone and then idk I'm back to looking closely at Bear and McQueen but I hope we are top 5.

or if Iginla actually came over instead of Jagr. He cost himself (and the Bruins) a cup with that decision. No one will ever change my mind on that one

 

[Bruin4]

Come on...............

Every team in the League -- bar none -- would have given a king's ransom for that so called 1.5C Bergeron.

By definition every year there are 30 or so "#1 Centers" so I get it that there is a wide range in quality/strength.

However, using your bar, apparently there were only two or three true #1 Centers in the League while Bergie played.

Like when Neely left the game everyone was looking for the next Cam Neely and now everyone is looking for the next Bergeron. Every young two-way center who comes into the league or during the draft draws comparison to Bergy,and their not comparing these kids to a 2nd line center, their comparing them to HOF two-way first line stud.

 

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If shaefere is on the table at 4-5 you have to take him.

Has he not had back injuries, if true caution signs should be put up.

 

[Bruin4]

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Has he not had back injuries, if true caution signs should be put up.

Hadn't heard that. He broke his collar-bone at WJ, maybe your thinking of McQueen ?
Schaefer also had mononucleosis.

He would be my number one pick, the kid seems like the best prospect with the highest ceiling and he's on;y 2 months older than Gavin McKenna.

 

[Hookslide]

Hadn't heard that. He broke his collar-bone at WJ, maybe your thinking of McQueen ?
Schaefer also had mononucleosis.

He would be my number one pick, the kid seems like the best prospect with the highest ceiling and he's on;y 2 months older than Gavin McKenna.

Ok thanks, just asking.

 

[Kegs]

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Has he not had back injuries, if true caution signs should be put up.

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Has he not had back injuries, if true caution signs should be put up.

I’m not sure about that. His current injury is his collar bone I believe.

Seems to be the clear #1 prospect on everyone’s list.

NHL Central Scouting analysis: "He is the best available prospect at his position, and the results he achieves with his combination of speed, skills, and size give him the edge for the No. 1 spot. While his game is still maturing, he's playing a style that will transition well once he gets his NHL opportunity."

Look what sports net says about him:

Schaefer is a workhorse. He averaged over 28 minutes per game when he did play for the Otters this season, and was deployed in all situations. He produced 7G-15A, rolled over the boards for an incredible 519 shifts, connected on 72 shots on goal and was a plus-20. He also played a top pairing role for Team Canada at the Hlinka Gretzky tournament in August and seemed destined for the same responsibility with the U20 world junior team at Christmas.
Schaefer is a complete player. He’s a massive threat off the rush with his pace and puck skill and sees the ice exceptionally well when distributing on the power play. He’s engaged defensively and is one of the most competitive and mature prospects in the draft class

It’s really hard to pass up on this prospect imo. Might be a massive mistake to not take him. He might be a future nhl super star.

 

[quietbruinfan]

If the bruins pick Schaefer, Lorhei is 100% going as Schaefer is a L d and Lorhei would hold the most value in a trade for a center


33 points last I checked, 6 5 and can skate and move picks like the wind. Yea. A team will take him.

Dark horse though is they get first overall and trade it outright in a blockbuster at the draft for a center right away

Lohrei going? Do you promise?

 

[Bruin4]

Seems to be the clear #1 prospect on everyone’s list.

Schaefer is a complete player. He’s a massive threat off the rush with his pace and puck skill and sees the ice exceptionally well when distributing on the power play. He’s engaged defensively and is one of the most competitive and mature prospects in the draft class

It’s really hard to pass up on this prospect imo. Might be a massive mistake to not take him. He might be a future nhl super star.

I agree, if somehow the bruins win the lottery or Schaefer is there when they pick, you have to take him. They obviously need a top center and Sweeney been more than challenged to acquire one in 10 plus years, but there's more than one-way to skin a cat and Schaefer has the greatest upside to be a true game changer, so for me you take him and concentrate on a Center by trade or the 2026 draft where you have 2 more first.

in the end thou I dont see them winning the lottery or Schaefer falling to them, so its irrelevenat and any of Schaefer, Hagens, Misa, Frondell, or a Martone, will make it a succesful tank. (hopefully)

 

[Oates2Neely]

So is Porter Martone going to be the Brady Tkachuk of this draft? Tankathon projecting him to go 3rd to Nashville. Would the Bruins take a center over him at 4 or 5 (if he falls there)?

Ottawa took Tkachuk 4th in 2018, after Buffalo took Dahlin 1, Canes took Svechnikov 2, Habs Kotkaniemi at 3.

I’d be itching to take the next Tkachuk in Martone, centers be damned. Gives them a RW behind Pastrnak

 

[Oates2Neely]

Geekie Lindholm Pastrnak
Marchand* Mittlestadt (Martone)
Minten Zacha Poitras
Khusnutdinov Kastelic Lauko

 

[Bodit9]

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I’m not sure about that. His current injury is his collar bone I believe.

Seems to be the clear #1 prospect on everyone’s list.

NHL Central Scouting analysis: "He is the best available prospect at his position, and the results he achieves with his combination of speed, skills, and size give him the edge for the No. 1 spot. While his game is still maturing, he's playing a style that will transition well once he gets his NHL opportunity."

Look what sports net says about him:

Schaefer is a workhorse. He averaged over 28 minutes per game when he did play for the Otters this season, and was deployed in all situations. He produced 7G-15A, rolled over the boards for an incredible 519 shifts, connected on 72 shots on goal and was a plus-20. He also played a top pairing role for Team Canada at the Hlinka Gretzky tournament in August and seemed destined for the same responsibility with the U20 world junior team at Christmas.
Schaefer is a complete player. He’s a massive threat off the rush with his pace and puck skill and sees the ice exceptionally well when distributing on the power play. He’s engaged defensively and is one of the most competitive and mature prospects in the draft class

It’s really hard to pass up on this prospect imo. Might be a massive mistake to not take him. He might be a future nhl super star.

Schaefer looks like a stud. Reminds me of Makar. Maybe that's too lofty a comparison but he looks incredible. To me, he is in the top tier all by himself. Second tier is Misa, Hagens, Frondell, Martone, then the next tier. If we somehow win the lottery, I would take him easily even though we desperately need a 1C. Then I would package Lohrei with other assets (Poitras? Lysell? draft picks?) to try to land a top center.

 

[Bruin4]

Geekie Lindholm Pastrnak
Marchand* Mittlestadt (Martone)
Minten Zacha Poitras
Khusnutdinov Kastelic Lauko

I could see this, Neely influence big time here thou, but Martone maybe as close to anyone to NHL ready and he's that Prototypical bruin type of player.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Geekie Lindholm Pastrnak
Marchand* Mittlestadt (Martone)
Minten Zacha Poitras
Khusnutdinov Kastelic Lauko

Prefer #18 over #11 as a 2C. I would offer sheet Knies. Your top 9 looks a lot better now and you might have increased your chances of attracting Matthews. Leafs fans would commit suicide...lol.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

So is Porter Martone going to be the Brady Tkachuk of this draft? Tankathon projecting him to go 3rd to Nashville. Would the Bruins take a center over him at 4 or 5 (if he falls there)?

Ottawa took Tkachuk 4th in 2018, after Buffalo took Dahlin 1, Canes took Svechnikov 2, Habs Kotkaniemi at 3.

I’d be itching to take the next Tkachuk in Martone, centers be damned. Gives them a RW behind Pastrnak

What if he turns out to be the next Kotkaniemi instead?

By the way, the 7th pick in the 2018 draft was Quinn Hughes.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Prefer #18 over #11 as a 2C.

Agreed. I had him there initially but then saw my 3rd line Minten Mittlestadt Poitras. Their nickname would quickly become the Minus Line

 

[Oates2Neely]

What if he turns out to be the next Kotkaniemi instead?

By the way, the 7th pick in the 2018 draft was Quinn Hughes.

All just speculation at this time of year, that’s what makes it fun

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Schaefer looks like a stud. Reminds me of Makar. Maybe that's too lofty a comparison but he looks incredible. To me, he is in the top tier all by himself. Second tier is Misa, Hagens, Frondell, Martone, then the next tier. If we somehow win the lottery, I would take him easily even though we desperately need a 1C. Then I would package Lohrei with other assets (Poitras? Lysell? draft picks?) to try to land a top center.

I think people need to pump the breaks on these players making a significant impact next year. Makar played 2 years after he was drafted at UMass and didn't truly breakout until his 2nd NHL season. Then you look at Bedard and Celebrini, both rated higher than any F in this draft and both got injured their rookie year. As great as Lane Hutson is he played a full year at BU as did Will Smith at BC. Ryan Leonard did 2 at BC.