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It’s nuts. Hagens is an elite skating playmaker with elite puck skills. This is not remotely close to Phil Kessel.
NHL Draft lottery race - Bruins currently have 4th Pick
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BruinDust
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The team making the pick. Which player do they think will be the best.
Listen if they got to pick 1st, and they believe say Mesa for example is the best player, then take him, I don't have an issue with that if that is what they believe to be true.
But if Schaefer is the best player in their opinion, and they have a chance to take him, than that is the correct course of action. There is no need to overthink this to grab an additional asset like a 2nd or 3rd rounder, or focus on a perceived positional need (and I say perceived because I don't believe center is anywhere near the positional need for this organization that other people do).
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I was with you until the last sentence. We don’t know what next year or the next few years hold, but one thing is for sure the Bruins absolutely need to start investing significant draft capital into trying to get a home grown first line center.
This roster and honestly the entire farm system is littered with guys who top out at 2C’s if everything goes perfect. They are all most likely 3C’s at the end of the day.
These statements are based off the assumption that winning teams are built through the center position and wingers can be acquired either through trade or free agent signings later. I believe the defense will be better next year will McAvoy and Lindholm returning and Swayman returning to his mean numbers.
I will say the Bust factor is true for all prospects ever. There is certainly a chance Misa busts. Also a higher chance he is just a good, but not elite soring winger at the next level.
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I personally don’t see how anyone can look at this organization from top to bottom and say center isn’t its biggest need.
I would even argue that both wing spots are bigger needs than defense right now.
To each their own.
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If the Bruins pick #4 and Hagens, Frondell and Desoyners are all still there, which one do you pick?
Seems like Frondell might be ready now? He allegedly has the best shot of the top picks and is physically ready for the NHL. 6'1", 198
Does Hagens stay in school for another year or does he come out now? Hagens gives you speed and puck carrying. The Bruins need speed. 5'10", 176.
Desoyners seems like a #2C. He plays a smart game and is physical. Shades of David Krecji as far as thinking the game? 6'2", 172. He has a large frame that he will grow into.
Assuming no change after the lottery. Nashville will pick #3. I've seen projections that they will take Hagens.
Seems like Frondell might be ready now? He allegedly has the best shot of the top picks and is physically ready for the NHL. 6'1", 198
Does Hagens stay in school for another year or does he come out now? Hagens gives you speed and puck carrying. The Bruins need speed. 5'10", 176.
Desoyners seems like a #2C. He plays a smart game and is physical. Shades of David Krecji as far as thinking the game? 6'2", 172. He has a large frame that he will grow into.
Assuming no change after the lottery. Nashville will pick #3. I've seen projections that they will take Hagens.
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Hagens. And I don’t care who’s playing next year or not when making this pick.
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The Bruins system lacks a center that has the potential to put up 80-90 points in a season and the only one you list that has that potential is Hagens in my opinion. Had one of the best NTDP seasons of all time before coming to BC.
So my answer is Hagens. Would also be thrilled with the other two as unfortunately this draft just isn’t very strong in the type of center the Bruins need. That also doesn’t mean Frondell and Desnoyers won’t be great players in this league. Jake O’Brien is a name to also know. Very good play maker.
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This is my whole premise really. Basing who they take this year on a pile of assumptions. Assuming where they will finish next year and future years. Assuming where they prospects they have now will max out as NHL players. Assuming what the trade market is like moving forward. In a 32-team salary cap league where things can change dramatically one year to the next. Did anyone see Mikko Rantanen getting traded twice this season?
I'd argue they went positional need with the Zboril pick. They were bound and determined to get a D-man with Hamilton leaving. Tried to move up and draft one of Hanifin/Sergachev/Werenski but weren't successful. Went with what they felt was the next best D. They were wrong.
Later in the draft, if they want to focus on a certain position, I have less of an issue with that. But at the very top (top 1-5-10), just take the best player you can regardless of position (with the exception of goalie).
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The Tankathon website has Nashville selecting Porter Martone and the Bruins with Hagens. They have Martone ahead of Hagens. What if Hagens goes at #3, then who do you pick at #4?
2025 NHL Mock Draft with Lottery Simulator | Tankathon
2025 NHL Mock Draft with lottery simulator to see where the top NHL prospects could be drafted. Order updated after every game. Some team needs are factored into each draft simulation result
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As of right now Frondell. But he and Desnoyers are both possibilities, and I haven’t put in the work yet to form a strong opinion between those two (again not that my opinion means anything).The Tankathon website has Nashville selecting Porter Martone and the Bruins with Hagens. What if Hagens goes at #3, then who do you pick at #4?
2025 NHL Mock Draft with Lottery Simulator | Tankathon
2025 NHL Mock Draft with lottery simulator to see where the top NHL prospects could be drafted. Order updated after every game. Some team needs are factored into each draft simulation resultwww.tankathon.com
I wouldn’t put much stock into Tankathon’s mocks though - lots of better ones out there.
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Your drafting 18-year olds it's a long-term projection. The Bruins have very little in the pipeline at the D position, left or right. Practically a barren wasteland.
Even the current group is full of question marks. Remains to be seen if Hampus even plays again, and if he does, at what level. Zadorov is Zadorov, a useful complimentary piece but he turns 30 next week. Lohrei's NHL future remains to be determined and even then he fills more of a specific role. McAvoy is approaching 30, Henri Joker is a UFA and Peeke a UFA the year after. UFA market for RD is downright awful. There is nothing in the pipeline to hang your hat on.
It's going to take at least a year if not two for a C selection to make it to the show. Ideally.
So, use your cap space to sign the Marner's of the world, and go from there.
FIX(ED)Don’t anyone forget that the Washington Capitals finished with the third worst record, won the draft lottery and ended up picking Ovi
It's not remotely nuts
Kessel had 18G 33A his draft year, a ratio 1.83 Assists to Goals.
Hagens had 18G 29A his draft year, a ratio 1.61 Assists to Goals.
They are roughly the same height and not dissimilar skating styles, so you flat out are wrong. Just like you were with Chychrun, the shooting % and the Carlo\Kesselring
issue. Keep doing what your best at and keep shifting goalposts...lol.
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I’m all for you trying to compare Hagens to Kessel - keep it coming. It’s great.
Mason can, or will in short order.
No, #6 is not a #1D, as he likely won't become a defensive marvel.
But he's bright, creative, and for all of the inevitable rookie mistakes, remains confident.
Plus, his dad is a very nice fellow.
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