NHL Draft lottery race - Bruins currently have 4th Pick

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You thinking the 4th pick in the draft is going to do all this is fantasyland shit.
Fantasyland ? How can it be fantasy land, when its an actual draft and a top prospect being taken? No one is saying its going to be fixed over night. Its more of a fantasy to think this current Boston bruins roster without the luxury of having a high pick is gong to be all "Hunky-dory", but to each their own.
 
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You thinking the 4th pick in the draft is going to do all this is fantasyland shit.
Did you just wake up wanting to fight people this morning?

No one is saying this one pick will fix the franchise. It's about acquiring top end talent the only way you can. Through the draft because we sure as shit know the Elias Lindholm's of the world aren't going to get it done.

How do you propose to help the franchise move forward if not get the best pick?
 
Oh cool the mindset of rooting for your team to win or you’re a “bad fan”. Let me guess, you’re rooting for them to win the last 6 games so, what, they can finish third last in the East instead of last? What possible good could come from that happening? Seems like a non serious post
That's like voting against your own best interest. It still amazes me how many illinformed people are out there!
 
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One can be optimistic about the future without actively rooting for the team to lose the rest of the season and getting pissed off if they actually win a game or two. People need to stop thinking the draft alone is going to improve the team. We've seen the draft screwed up numerous times and we've seen high picks completely bust.
In fairness, we've also seen some free agents who've signed here, "bust" and/or "perform" well below expectations as well (i.e Lindholm, Elias specifically). I don't wish for this team to actively lose. However, if losing helps our chances at obtaining younger, skillful & high potential via the draft, what isn't there to be optimistic about?

As is, what we have now clearly hasn't worked out in our favor this season and was bound to happen eventually.
 
One can be optimistic about the future without actively rooting for the team to lose the rest of the season and getting pissed off if they actually win a game or two. People need to stop thinking the draft alone is going to improve the team. We've seen the draft screwed up numerous times and we've seen high picks completely bust.
And we have seen FA signings suck
Trades suck
Our prospect pool sucks

What is your solution?
 
I just don't believe in actively rooting for the team to fail just so you can feel better. Also, people acting like this draft will "save" the franchise is living in a different universe. Lofty expectations usually don't come to fruition.
I don't think anyone is rooting for them to lose. This team is AHL quality, so having to cheer against them is not needed! I think we will be fine when our 2 best D are back, new players added are fully integrated, players in Providence are promoted, and we pick up the odd UFA to fill holes! Anyone thinking that this years draft pick will be in the lineup next season are fooling themselves! However, if we stay at 4OA or move up we will definitely get a player that will be in the lineup before Pasta starts the downward spiral.
 
And we have seen FA signings suck
Trades suck
Our prospect pool sucks

What is your solution?
The solution is suck next year also and then in the off season sign a couple of difference makers. They arentvready this offseason. I wouldn’t try this upcoming year.
 
I don't think anyone is rooting for them to lose. This team is AHL quality, so having to cheer against them is not needed! I think we will be fine when our 2 best D are back, new players added are fully integrated, players in Providence are promoted, and we pick up the odd UFA to fill holes! Anyone thinking that this years draft pick will be in the lineup next season are fooling themselves! However, if we stay at 4OA or move up we will definitely get a player that will be in the lineup before Pasta starts the downward spiral.
I’m absolutely rooting for them to lose. For two more weeks.
 
I don't feel as if anyone thinks that our current draft position is some sort of panacea. It dam sure helps though. Look, I'll bet many of us will still support this team, even if it takes 2 steps back to move 3 steps forward in time.

It's time...
 
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I think there is a higher chance of the 4th overall pick being an elite player than the 8th overall player yes. How could anyone disagree with that?
It makes no difference though if DS picks with the same mindset as 2015! If he picks from a reputable source and not try to be the smartest person in the room, then we will get an impact player!
 
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It makes no difference though if DS picks with the same mindset as 2015! If he picks from a reputable source and not try to be the smartest person in the room, then we will get an impact player!
Well, I’d like our GM to try to be as smart as possible. Seems like a worthwhile goal.
 
not try to be the smartest person in the room

Where does this come from? It gets tossed around here from time to time and I've never gotten it. If you could, give me some evidence of it (and I don't mean this as snarky at all: I genuinely do not understand this point of view).
 
it’s a couple of weeks. The people who want them to try to be the worst team in the league next year for McKenna are the ones out to lunch.
I don't think no one wants that, but there's better than a 50% chance imo come next years deadline thats where their at. (Selling)

I know there's people out-there who feel an add here or there and they'll be fine with a healthy squad, which may be true, but ill play a wait see approach, because unless they sign Marner, you have ehlers and Boeser who can put the puck in the net and there will be a whole lot of teams vying for the services. To put it mildly I dont see this team turning this around in one off-season.


Matt LARKIN: I can’t shake the idea that the Boston Bruins are playing possum. On the surface, we see a tanker team that sold off Brad Marchand, Charlie Coyle, Brandon Carlo and others at the Trade Deadline and has since sunk to last in the Eastern Conference. But the Bruins are still committed to David Pastrnak, Charlie McAvoy, Jeremy Swayman, Hampus Lindholm and, whether they like it or not, Elias Lindholm and Nikita Zadorov long-term. They also have more than $27 million in projected cap space to play with next season. Add in a possible top-five pick…and the Bruins could reload far quicker than some people realize.
 
Where does this come from? It gets tossed around here from time to time and I've never gotten it. If you could, give me some evidence of it (and I don't mean this as snarky at all: I genuinely do not understand this point of view).
I’m not saying I agree with it, but I think it stems from the fact that Sweeney comes off as a bit of a nerd, he holds his cards close to the vest, he’s awkward with the media at times. He’s not very personable (publicly). And of course there’s the 2015 draft where he reached on a specific player.
 
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I don't think no one wants that, but there's better than a 50% chance imo come next years deadline thats where their at. (Selling)

I know there's people out-there who feel an add here or there and they'll be fine with a healthy squad, which may be true, but ill play a wait see approach, because unless they sign Marner, you have ehlers and Boeser who can put the puck in the net and there will be a whole lot of teams vying for the services. To put it mildly I dont see this team turning this around in one off-season.


Matt LARKIN: I can’t shake the idea that the Boston Bruins are playing possum. On the surface, we see a tanker team that sold off Brad Marchand, Charlie Coyle, Brandon Carlo and others at the Trade Deadline and has since sunk to last in the Eastern Conference. But the Bruins are still committed to David Pastrnak, Charlie McAvoy, Jeremy Swayman, Hampus Lindholm and, whether they like it or not, Elias Lindholm and Nikita Zadorov long-term. They also have more than $27 million in projected cap space to play with next season. Add in a possible top-five pick…and the Bruins could reload far quicker than some people realize.
They need to be bad next year as well but there’re roster is ok when fully staffed. They will be a middling team next year. I’d rather be a bad team again.
 
I’m not saying I agree with it, but I think it stems from the fact that Sweeney comes off as a bit of a nerd, he holds his cards close to the vest, he’s awkward with the media at times. He’s not very personable (publicly). And of course there’s the 2015 draft where he reached on a specific player.

Don't disagree on the public persona- he is irksome to me most of the time and yeah, now that you mention it, it feels like it might have started with the pick that shall not be named lol. I also think it might have to do with his Harvard education. It feels like there is a bit of classism going on there at times, never mind that Don is a New Brunswick kid who make it there because he was good at hockey not because he was some rich Boston prep-school trust fund douche.

If we take the 2015 first rounder out, though, I am struggling to see evidence that he is trying to be "the smartest guy in the room" beyond making the usual mistakes that all NHL GMs make (some more than others).
 
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I agree 2015 was a huge mistake from 10 years ago..

Can anyone name me any GM that hasn't made bad picks, or wish they had taken someone else ?

Ours came in same year, so it's magnified but people make it sound like drafting is an exact science and Bruins are the only ones to ever make bad picks
 
I agree 2015 was a huge mistake from 10 years ago..

Can anyone name me any GM that hasn't made bad picks, or wish they had taken someone else ?

Ours came in same year, so it's magnified but people make it sound like drafting is an exact science and Bruins are the only ones to ever make bad picks

I definitely do not want to open the 2015 Can of worms again, but just want to point out that only one was the actual reach and supposedly a result of 'smartest- guy- in- the- room' syndrome. The other 1st round whiff was a consensus player to go right around where he was picked.
 
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