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Prospect Info: Draft 2025: Is it too late to tank? Asking for a friend
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The Old Master
come and take it.
i would love obrien at 9 in fact i have him a little higher than some. he would be a guy that i would move up a few spots for.
just to make sure we get him.
Point is when yall get upset about not being able to pick 5th or wherever you probably have this idea in your head of us grabbing xyz player and the truth is we all have zero idea who the Pens value other than a handful of rumored names.
Teams go off board every single year. Once you get past the top 3 in a draft it often gets chaotic pretty quick.
You're completely missing my point which is teams have their own draft boards and go off the beaten path all the time
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That's great, but I'd still want the higher pick. As anyone with even a modicum of common sense would.
Who the hell wouldn't? But you're doing this endless whining about it when the Pens probably won't take who you want anyways whether they're picking 7th or 9th
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But what you're doing is relying upon other teams to essentially make a mistake. That may happen, it may not. It'd be better if we were the ones in that position as opposed to the other way around, don't you think?
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I'm with you, I'm just irritated as to the notion we'll have to potentially give up an additional asset to do so. IF even a team is willing to trade with us. Not the best position to be in.
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I would be tickled pink if O'Brien was the pick. Elite Prospects has a different consensus than other draft gurus, at least from a video I watched recently. They had Frondell dropping to the teens, O'Brien available at 9, etc. IMHO, the more non-centers who get picked earlier than anticipated, the better for us.
Also, I fully expect chaos this year. Buffalo, Anaheim, even San Jose and Chicago...I could see lots of trades.
So what is the scenario (unlikely as it is) for us picking third? Like what has to happen if the chances are 0.02%?
Also, I fully expect chaos this year. Buffalo, Anaheim, even San Jose and Chicago...I could see lots of trades.
So what is the scenario (unlikely as it is) for us picking third? Like what has to happen if the chances are 0.02%?
There isn't a scenario where we pick third.
We could pick first, second, ninth, tenth, or eleventh. In order to pick tenth or eleventh we'd have to have a lottery drawing where somebody behind us moved up in draft order. At that point all the teams above us would get pushed down a slot and it would push us down a slot too as a result.
If two teams behind us won the two drawings we'd pick 11th which would be hilarious due to the freakout it would cause here but the odds of that happening are infinitesimally small
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Gimme a lotto jump to 2nd to snag Misa. Thank you, Bettman, you slimy f***.
The true fantasy is us staying where we are this year and picking like a William Nylander caliber player at 9th and then winning the next two lottos to grab McKenna and Dupont.
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Tankathon has a .2% chance of PIT drafting #3. I'm not sure how it is possible either.
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That translates to 1 chance in 500. So, I think we can safely rule that one out.Tankathon has a .2% chance of PIT drafting #3. I'm not sure how it is possible either.
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On a positive note picking either 1st or 2hd is 51 times a higher probability.
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Nah Ragamuffin nailed it with the real fantasyland shit; Win this lotto, Schaefer, Rangers punt to next year and they win which gives us McKenna, Pens win the Dupont lotto.
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We pick 3rd if the Wings win the 1st lotto and we win the 2nd. They can only move up to 2nd so we'd slide to 3rd.
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This year both were centers. Beniers has only played center in the NHL. Seattle's prospect pool is definitely stronger at forward than defense.
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Sullivan gots to go!
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Tankathon has a .2% chance of PIT drafting #3. I'm not sure how it is possible either.
2025 NHL Draft Lottery Odds | Tankathon
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The Penguins would be picking third if two things happen:
1. They win the #2 lottery
2. Detroit wins the #1 lottery but can only move up 10 spots from #12 to #2
Detroit gets priority for the #2 pick because they won the #1 lottery. This would have San Jose at #1, Detroit at #2 and Pittsburgh at #3.
The Old Master
come and take it.
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I think someone mentioned this already, but someone that may be rapidly rising up the draft boards at the draft could be Cole Reschny. He's absolutely destroying the WHL in the playoffs right now, he has 9 goals and 25 points in 10 games in the playoffs on Victoria. He was pretty consistently ranked in the mid to late 20s, with him being #29 on McKenzie's last list. However that production in his draft year is impossible to ignore.
Other players are producing similarly, with Catton also having 25 points in 10 games and Cristall having 24 points in 9 games on Spokane, but those two are also playing together and are older than Reschny. I wouldn't be surprised if he jumps up to the 12-17 range with how he's performing in the playoffs, closer to someone like Kindel.
Other players are producing similarly, with Catton also having 25 points in 10 games and Cristall having 24 points in 9 games on Spokane, but those two are also playing together and are older than Reschny. I wouldn't be surprised if he jumps up to the 12-17 range with how he's performing in the playoffs, closer to someone like Kindel.
Most time the lottery is not a difference for most teams. Detroit has been on the wrong end but Pens will draft 9th. They will get a very good player hopefully O'Brien. But Dubas has beefed up the scouting and the real dividends have to come from getting some nice surprises with so many picks.
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