Prospect Info: Draft 2025: Is it too late to tank? Asking for a friend

At this point, I don't really even think the Penguins final draft position really makes much of a difference. They're going to be in the 5-9 range with the Washington game only really influencing whether it ends up #7 or #8 most likely. I don't think there is really a tangible difference in the prospects that will be available in the #6-#9 range, and #5 would take a lot of pretty unlikely things to happen. The only negative would have been the Penguins falling to #10 or later, but that's now impossible.

Their 1st rounder looks like it will be either Eklund or O'Brien, and I don't really think that whether they finish #6 or #8 changes that. If both of those guys are somehow gone by #8, that just means someone like Desnoyers or Frondell slipped to #8.
 
Finished up the Mrtka tape. Easily the most adept defensive player in the draft for me. Just not sure there's enough going the other direction to make it a worthwhile investment.


I have cooled on him but I will say he’s got monster upside. if he develops into a 6’6 wet blanket that can sniffs out play after play after play and chips in 5-25-30 a year….

What is that worth in a redraft? Top 5? Top 3?

I think he goes 6-12 range but can see a team having him incredibly high on their list. Like 2-3OA high.

So the Pens can finish anywhere from 5th thru 9th.

Rangers can finish anywhere from 9th thru 13th. Big game tonight for them with Florida

Other big game tonight:
DAL @ DET
I feel like if were lucky enough to get to 5 we’ll just slide to 7 once the lottery happens :laugh:

Still rooting for it though
 
likely. I don't think there is really a tangible difference in the prospects that will be available in the #6-#9 range, and #5 would take a lot of pretty unlikely things to happen.
I think you’re right starting at like 7/8

I think sitting 6 on draft day could be huge tho. Someone is gonna want Frondell/Desnoyers high, maybe both. Same for Mrtka/Smith. Like I think there is a very real chance Frondell goes top 3-4.

it’s unlikely but I can see Martone or Hagens getting to 6 tbh.
 
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I have cooled on him but I will say he’s got monster upside. if he develops into a 6’6 wet blanket that can sniffs out play after play after play and chips in 5-25-30 a year….

What is that worth in a redraft? Top 5? Top 3?

I think he goes 6-12 range but can see a team having him incredibly high on their list. Like 2-3OA high.

He screams Buffalo to me, he fills a huge organizational need for them and should be primed to go right around the Sabres pick.

Desnoyers to Philly and Mrtka to Buffalo are two picks I think make a ton of sense.

I think you’re right starting at like 7/8

I think sitting 6 on draft day could be huge tho. Someone is gonna want Frondell/Desnoyers high, maybe both. Same for Mrtka/Smith.

it’s unlikely but I can see Martone or Hagens getting to 6 tbh.

I think it's possible but it would probably require Chicago to slide due to the draft lottery.

Chicago allegedly loves Frondell but I don't think they'll take him at #2 overall. However I think taking him over Hagens or Martone at #3/4 overall is possible. I could see the top-5 going like:

1. San Jose: Schaefer
2. Nashville: Misa
3. Chicago: Frondell
4. Boston: Martone/Hagens
5. Philly: Desnoyers

Which does push one of Martone or Hagens to #6. I think it's unlikely but it's not impossible.

Martone screams a Boston Bruins player to me, but I'm skeptical Boston would pass up on drafting Hagens when he plays at BC. Could really see them going either way there.
 
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He screams Buffalo to me, he fills a huge organizational need for them and should be primed to go right around the Sabres pick.

Desnoyers to Philly and Mrtka to Buffalo are two picks I think make a ton of sense.



I think it's possible but it would probably require Chicago to slide due to the draft lottery.

Chicago allegedly loves Frondell but I don't think they'll take him at #2 overall. However I think taking him over Hagens or Martone at #3/4 overall is possible. I could see the top-5 going like:

1. San Jose: Schaefer
2. Nashville: Misa
3. Chicago: Frondell
4. Boston: Martone/Hagens
5. Philly: Desnoyers

Which does push one of Martone or Hagens to #6. I think it's unlikely but it's not impossible.

Martone screams a Boston Bruins player to me, but I'm skeptical Boston would pass up on drafting Hagens when he plays at BC. Could really see them going either way there.
Who knows. Point is 5 is obv the best. But I think there’s a big difference between 6 and 7-10.
 
I feel like Desnoyers is gonna get a lot of attention from the Bruins and Flyers as well tbh. And I've had a gut feeling all along that McQueen's gonna be a guy GMs can't help but go after because he's tall.
 
I feel like Desnoyers is gonna get a lot of attention from the Bruins and Flyers as well tbh. And I've had a gut feeling all along that McQueen's gonna be a guy GMs can't help but go after because he's tall.

I hope we stay away from Desnoyers if he falls…just avoid the Q please lol
 
I hope we stay away from Desnoyers if he falls…just avoid the Q please lol
I kinda don't really give a shit one way or another if this team cannot somehow luck into Martone or Hagens. Well, that's not true; I really want to avoid McQueen. Other than that--Frondell, Eklund, Desnoyers, whatever.
 
I kinda don't really give a shit one way or another if this team cannot somehow luck into Martone or Hagens. Well, that's not true; I really want to avoid McQueen. Other than that--Frondell, Eklund, Desnoyers, whatever.

If they have and use the Rangers pick, I don’t mind them taking a flyer on McQueen outside the top 10…
 
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If they have and use the Rangers pick, I don’t mind them taking a flyer on McQueen outside the top 10…
I wouldn't take McQueen if the Rangers pick was 20th. Have a little ambition, man. :laugh: Dude's gonna be Bjugstad, and that's if he even pans out, and that's up in the air with a potential chronic back injury.
 
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I can see centers lining up like ducks in a row after Schaefer. Makes for a bummer day for Martone and even Eklund, but that's the demand of the center position for ya.

Schaefer
Misa
Frondell
Hagens
Desnoyers
O'Brien
McQueen

I even think some team still takes Bear in around the top 10 and there's still Martin.
 

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