Crosby has to want to sit. You think an ultracompetitive Hall of Famer is going to be OK with not playing when he's healthy?They could’ve sat Crosby but they didn’t. Kinda hard to sit him now with 2 home games left.
They could start NED in goal however but I doubt they even do that. Lotta sick ppl who wanna win meaningless games.They could’ve sat Crosby but they didn’t. Kinda hard to sit him now with 2 home games left.
Always remember EVERYTHING MUST revolve around Sid. Keeping Sullivan, check, winning meaningless games, check, being perpetually mediocre, check!Crosby has to want to sit. You think an ultracompetitive Hall of Famer is going to be OK with not playing when he's healthy?
I don't think any fans want us to win these games but bitching about the players and coaches trying hard is just silly.They could start NED in goal however but I doubt they even do that. Lotta sick ppl who wanna win meaningless games.
Yeah that's not happening.Crosby has to want to sit. You think an ultracompetitive Hall of Famer is going to be OK with not playing when he's healthy?
Oh, I've railed against Kyle also. Dontcha worried about that son, I've done so. Lots of blame to be had by all!I don't think any fans want us to win these games but bitching about the players and coaches trying hard is just silly.
If you want to rage at someone point that at Dubas. He could have gutted the roster more than he did at the deadline and that's probably worth a few losses. But he didn't. The players/coaches are always gonna try to win. That's their job.
Yeah that's not happening.
I don’t think anyone healthy at this time of year. They’re sitting Ovechkin in a meaningless game, they can do the same with Sid.Crosby has to want to sit. You think an ultracompetitive Hall of Famer is going to be OK with not playing when he's healthy?
That would make too much sense.I don’t think anyone healthy at this time of year. They’re sitting Ovechkin in a meaningless game, they can do the same with Sid.
That's not remotely the same. Ovechkin is sitting to rest for a playoff run. Sid sitting while being healthy would be basically telling him they want to lose and it's just not a realistic expectation.I don’t think anyone healthy at this time of year. They’re sitting Ovechkin in a meaningless game, they can do the same with Sid.
That's not a bad idea. I think they're probably hoping to repair Jarry's value/confidence somewhat with this last stretch. But I doubt any trade partner is going to be fooled by what he's doing now. Maybe the best that the Pens can hope for is Jarry carries this play into next season which buys time for Murashov/Blomqvist to get more AHL games and then the season after that the Pens move on from TJ.Also what’s the point of not calling up Larsson to give him a game or two? Nothing to lose, great way to evaluate him.
There's a bunch of games recently that should have been sure losses that we won that will hurt us.That Dallas win could really hurt us.
Ovechkin is sitting for the greater good of winning in the playoffs.I don’t think anyone healthy at this time of year. They’re sitting Ovechkin in a meaningless game, they can do the same with Sid.
He's 26. He's not part of the picture.Also what’s the point of not calling up Larsson to give him a game or two? Nothing to lose, great way to evaluate him.
They could try and sell him on that but I doubt he'd agree with that logic and then what? They're not going to force him sit and piss him off.I think the situations are pretty similar. They’re sitting Ovechkin in a meaningless game to keep him as healthy as possible. The same would be true for Sid. An injury at this time of year can derail your offseason training, which can then set you back next season. You don’t even have to bring up the standings or draft picks.
I mean the worst case scenario is a torn ACL or concussion in a meaningless game. That’s career-impacting, possibly career-ending.
My angst is two fold. 1st, calling up the kids that gave this team an unnecessary spark after the BUF game, that's 100% on Dubas! If that didn't happen we'd be 6-8th no worse. If we traded Rakell we'd likely be between 5-7th.I think the situations are pretty similar. They’re sitting Ovechkin in a meaningless game to keep him as healthy as possible. The same would be true for Sid. An injury at this time of year can derail your offseason training, which can then set you back next season. You don’t even have to bring up the standings or draft picks.
I mean the worst case scenario is a torn ACL or concussion in a meaningless game. That’s career-impacting, possibly career-ending.
The Dallas game and the Flyer game where Philly was up 3-0 really stand out.There's a bunch of games recently that should have been sure losses that we won that will hurt us.
Finishing 5th would get you an 8.5% chance which is nothing to sneeze at. 9th gets you 5% which is also still not terrible. Unlikely, sure, but not completely out of the question.The NHL has had a weighted draft lottery in one form or another since 2013. They've changed the number of lottery picks and the weighting of winning one of those picks multiple times.
The Penguins won't get a No. 1 overall pick as long as Crosby is on this team.
Nobody said they were gonna out tank the Hawks or Sharks, that's dumb. The point all season once the team faltered badly before Christmas was to get into the top 4 to land one of the guys everyone says is a clear cut above the rest in the draft. That was easily within reach, they were sitting 4th or 5th at the TDL.The Pens were never going to out tank the likes of Chicago or San Jose with Sidney Crosby on the roster.
Had Dubas gutted the roster more at the deadline by trading Rakell then maybe they could have had a few more losses though, which could have meant the difference between like 5th overall and 8th overall. Maybe that's significant. I kinda doubt it. I think that only ends up mattering if the 5th overall or so slot wins the lottery. Otherwise I don't personally see a big difference between picking 5th or picking 8th. The Pens should get a similar quality prospect either way.
Now if the Pens actually win out and pick like 11th or 12th or something that would be pretty tragic as based on what I've read of this draft you want to be in that top 8 or so. But they say that shit about every f-ing draft so at the end of the day whatever. Call it copium if you will but I think the Pens should be able to find a quality player whether they end up picking 12th or 8th or wherever. If you get into that top 15 you should be able to find somebody or your scouts are dog shit.
I have a feeling the Rangers are keeping the pick unless they're forced to hand it over. They don't seem like the kinda organization/owner to essentially say publicly that they can't risk leaving next year's pick unprotected because the team may be just as bad or worse.Buffalo up 1-0, they’ll jump the Penguins with a game in hand if they win tonight.
Really hoping the Rangers lose out and the Penguins end up with #7 and #10 picks.
I think pragmatism, not probability, needs to be the mindset. Yeah, you can hope something unexpected and unlikely happens with that 8.5% chance, but it's not wise to plan for that. There just seems to be this expectation that the Pens would have realistic chances to move up if they were 4th or 5th worst right now, and past results really don't bear that out.Finishing 5th would get you an 8.5% chance which is nothing to sneeze at. 9th gets you 5% which is also still not terrible. Unlikely, sure, but not completely out of the question.
Anything below 9th seems very unlikely as from 9th-->10th it drops to 3.5% and keeps getting worse from there.
We can still be in the lottery next year, maybe we'll have two Lottery picks next year if the Rags keep losing. Id be happy with a top five pick next year.I think pragmatism, not probability, needs to be the mindset. Yeah, you can hope something unexpected and unlikely happens with that 8.5% chance, but it's not wise to plan for that. There just seems to be this expectation that the Pens would have realistic chances to move up if they were 4th or 5th worst right now, and past results really don't bear that out.
If you want a chance at a No. 1 pick, you have to be willing to be the worst team in the NHL. And the Pens aren't going to do that with Crosby, understandably so.