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Prospect Info: Draft 2025 Habs you're on the clock

The lil'l smurfs will rule everything and make a big splash when the playoffs time will arrive. They will kick ass to the big traditional teams built to win the playoffs, oh yeah baby! First they have to make the playoffs, lol. :sarcasm:
Guentzel - Crosby - Holmqvist
Sheary- Malkin -Rust

2 Stanley cup in a row...that was the first 2 lines and only Malkin is 6.0 or above...
 
Oh so we just need to find 2 of the 3 best players of the current generation.

Yeah sure we can win with Reschny and Caufield, assuming we have McDavid and MacKinnon as centres.
Always excuses.

The theory is we don't win in the playoffs with less than 6.0 players and the Pens showed you otherwise.

I red often in 2005 that Crosby was not tall enough on his draft year...yeah go figure...

So come on tell me who 6.0 or above available at 16th who will be a better NHL player than Recschny
 
Bring me that top 6 any day of the week with 3rd and 4th line with size

3rd and 4th line going to win possession of the puck and then change for those other lines, or what?

You can't just stick 3 small skilled guys on a line and expect it to work in the playoffs.

There's a reason why Holmstrom and Franzen were playing with Datsyuk and Zetterberg.

It's *fine* to draft Reschny, but they better have somebody with size, skill and forechecking prowess on that other wing.. or it won't matter, because him and Demidov will not win pucks back, nor do you want them risking their bodies every shift as F1.
 
3rd and 4th line going to win possession of the puck and then change for those other lines, or what?

You can't just stick 3 small skilled guys on a line and expect it to work in the playoffs.

There's a reason why Holmstrom and Franzen were playing with Datsyuk and Zetterberg.

It's *fine* to draft Reschny, but they better have somebody with size, skill and forechecking prowess on that other wing.. or it won't matter, because him and Demidov will not win pucks back, nor do you want them risking their bodies every shift as F1.
Did you see Demidov protect the puck in the corners....his ́puck protection technique is very good....something that Andrei Kostitsyn for example was not and he was so big and strong.

You are right that we can put somebody with size with Reschny and Demidov..but please..draft Reschny.

Remember when I was screaming about Catton instead of Lindstrom in the top 5 last year...I stand by it big time
 
I don't see how Bear drops to 16. Even with his injury, there aren't 15 prospects better than him. If he's not taken in the top 10, there's definitely a team that will gladly take him from 11 to 15.

I think Hughes will have to trade up if he wants him.
IF a proven gem LD Buium could drop 12, a LW Bear can certainly goes even in the 20s like Hage last year.
 
Guentzel - Crosby - Holmqvist
Sheary- Malkin -Rust

2 Stanley cup in a row...that was the first 2 lines and only Malkin is 6.0 or above...
Sydney Crosby. We have such a generational talent in our roster right now? Syd is 5'11" btw.
And Malkin is another playoffs animal, one of the best of his generation. I dream Habs could built around Crosby and Malkin. We are not there so this discussion is pointless.

Sydney Crosby, nothing to add. Welcome to the era of name dropping to prove something in a discussion on social media. Great, great!
 
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IF a proven gem LD Buium could drop 12, a LW Bear can certainly goes even in the 20s like Hage last year.

It can happen for sure, but I'm convinced he will be drafted top 15. Surprises always happen at the draft tho so it wouldn't shock me if I'm proven wrong.

I expect all of Martin, McQueen, Mrtka and Bear to be picked top 15. Especially Martin who seems to be this year's Sennecke.
 
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Sydney Crosby. We have such a generational talent in our roster right now? Syd is 5'11" btw.
And Malkin is another playoffs animal, one of the best of his generation. I dream Habs could built around Crosby and Malkin. We are not there so this discussion is pointless.

Sydney Crosby, nothing to add.
I agree but its not because we don't have Crosby that we have to draft Mcqueen instead of Reschny for example. They are 6 inches difference yes....but who is gonna be the best player down the road.

A roster could change....Reschny could be a very important piece of our team in 3 years.and we coùd trade Caufield..nobody knows.

I would never pass on a great talent cause he is 5.11 190 ́pounds..never...
 
Did you see Demidov protect the puck in the corners....his ́puck protection technique is very good....something that Andrei Kostitsyn for example was not and he was so big and strong.

You are right that we can put somebody with size with Reschny and Demidov..but please..draft Reschny.

Remember when I was screaming about Catton instead of Lindstrom in the top 5 last year...I stand by it big time

I've seen it, but you can't send him in there as F1 every time. He'll be broken by the time you are in the games that matter in a series, it's also a general waste of his skill-set to use him in that role.

Again, you have to mix that size element into your top 6. You can't be completely devoid of it and it doesn't matter how big the bottom 6 is, because their play doesn't impact the ability to win pucks back, get it off the wall, screen the goalie, and take defenders to the net for the players who are in the top 6 and are on the ice a larger percentage of the time.
 
Always excuses.

The theory is we don't win in the playoffs with less than 6.0 players and the Pens showed you otherwise.

I red often in 2005 that Crosby was not tall enough on his draft year...yeah go figure...

So come on tell me who 6.0 or above available at 16th who will be a better NHL player than Recschny
It’s not an excuse. They literally won because they had those two. We have no one near that quality.
 
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It’s not an excuse. They literally won because they had those two. We have no one near that quality.
Yeah but Crosby was not tall enough on his draft year..remember that.

..and Sakic as well

..and Suzuki as well.

Not too bad those 3 in the playoffs right..and the list is way longer...

In fact you could take half of the players s in the top 6 in the history or in today's NHL and about half of them are not 6.0 tall and you know what they are good in the playoffs.

Point.and Kucherov in Tampa won...a lot...


The 6.0 thing is BS

We.are not talking about 4.9 128 pounds players here........

There is no difference on the ice between a 5.11 189 pounds and a 6.1 205...none.

If you say that there is a huge difference so don't draft a 6.1.205 but just 6.4 235...cause the difference is way bigger..


It s strange right I never heard ...don't draft the 6.2 instead of the 6.4 but I hear everywhere that we have to draft the 6.1 instead of the 5.11

It is nuts
 
I agree but its not because we don't have Crosby that we have to draft Mcqueen instead of Reschny for example. They are 6 inches difference yes....but who is gonna be the best player down the road.

A roster could change....Reschny could be a very important piece of our team in 3 years.and we coùd trade Caufield..nobody knows.

I would never pass on a great talent cause he is 5.11 190 ́pounds..never...
Maybe yes but that's all speculations now. Reschny could have been gone at 15, who knows. A smaller center could work fine if he's surrounded with big and skilled wingers. Maybe the next 2e or 1rst center will be McTavish and it will cost Slaf or Caufield. I don't think our usual trading players (Mailloux, Beck, Kapanen, Dach, etc) are very attractive in the real world, some bigger names considered untouchable have to go. Who is really untouchable are Suzuki, Hutson, Ghule, Demidov, Reinbacher and Fowler. But I might be wrong. Maybe we are at a turning point and an huge trade is coming to shake the tree. Or maybe not, Habs are tyed without real solution, no big change and Hughes sign short term Armia and Dvorak. Expect big or expect nothing.
 
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Yeah but Crosby was not tall enough on his draft year..remember that.

..and Sakic as well

..and Suzuki as well.

Not too bad those 3 in the playoffs right..and the list is way longer...

In fact you could take half of the players s in the top 6 in the history or in today's NHL and about half of them are not 6.0 tall and you know what they are good in the playoffs.

Point.and Kucherov in Tampa won...a lot...


The 6.0 thing is BS

We.are not talking about 4.9 128 pounds players here........

There is no difference on the ice between a 5.11 189 pounds and a 6.1 205...none.

If you say that there is a huge difference so don't draft a 6.1.205 but just 6.4 235...cause the difference is way bigger..


It s strange right I never heard ...don't draft the 6.2 instead of the 6.4 but I hear everywhere that we have to draft the 6.1 instead of the 5.11

It is nuts
You bring a point but usually teams with tall and players who plays big tends to win SC finals. Blues didn't had top talent like Crosby/Malkin but they won in 2019. LAK won with average tall, gritty enough and enough overall talent 2 times. Anaheim destroyed everything when they won with Getzlaf and Perry. Boston Bruins were a tough team with size in 2011. Tampa had some muscle with Hedman and few others and their smallish players were top notch talent like Kucherov and Point. We don'ty see that amount of skills and talent in every small player, that's exceptional and not really an argument in favour of smaller players.

Size is something signifiant and I don't see a preference between 6'1" or 6'4". It always depends on the individual, size with a big problem is not wanted. The character, the stamina, the hockey IQ, etc. All things considered but size have to be considered in the total mix of a team, if that team wants badly to win a SC. And a winning team in SC needs solid 3rd line too and sometimes a better than average 4th line. Every line counts, from player A to Z.
 
It can happen for sure, but I'm convinced he will be drafted top 15. Surprises always happen at the draft tho so it wouldn't shock me if I'm proven wrong.

I expect all of Martin, McQueen, Mrtka and Bear to be picked top 15. Especially Martin who seems to be this year's Sennecke.
Only this year's 'Sennecke,' is truly worthy of the hype. Hughes has the assets to make the move to be in a position to take Martin if he falls a bit. One player who really impresses me, and is worthy of trading back into the bottom of the first round is Cullen Potter who looks like a clone of Logan Cooley. As I said earlier, the lack of a potential superstar player has given this draft class a bad reputation. I think there is considerable value in the top 20 and thus I would be very hesitant in trading away the 16 and/or 17th OA picks. With a little luck we could walk away with two future core players.
 
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Only this year's 'Sennecke,' is truly worthy of the hype. Hughes has the assets to make the move to be in a position to take Martin if he falls a bit. One player who really impresses me, and is worthy of trading back into the bottom of the first round is Cullen Potter who looks like a clone of Logan Cooley. As I said earlier, the lack of a potential superstar player has given this draft class a bad reputation. I think there is considerable value in the top 20 and thus I would be very hesitant in trading away the 16 and/or 17th OA picks. With a little luck we could walk away with two future core players.
I'd rather try to land another 1st round pick in the 20s by trading one or both of our second rounders than trading up and down from our 16th and 17th OA picks (14th & 20th).

Too many good players would still be available at our three first round picks.
 
We can't draft a player just because of their IQ...what if they are just using Ai to act smart?
We may never know the answer.
 
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I've seen it, but you can't send him in there as F1 every time. He'll be broken by the time you are in the games that matter in a series, it's also a general waste of his skill-set to use him in that role.

Again, you have to mix that size element into your top 6. You can't be completely devoid of it and it doesn't matter how big the bottom 6 is, because their play doesn't impact the ability to win pucks back, get it off the wall, screen the goalie, and take defenders to the net for the players who are in the top 6 and are on the ice a larger percentage of the time.
You have to have some size and grit in the top-6,but it's not true that it is reserved for some players and unnecessary for others. If so, it would have been okay for Floateretty to keep away from the dirty work like he would have preferred to do.

It's not coincidence that he played better when with Cole or Radulov, times where he was more physical. It's just easier to be more physical when you aren't the only one being physical and when another player leads the way.

Demidov is still just a kid. He will also mature physically and should implicate himself that way as he matures. Getting a physical C to play with Demidov will help. If not another physical winger, at least one that is dynamic and keeps moving his feet to get opposing Ds to break down...
 
You have to have some size and grit in the top-6,but it's not true that it is reserved for some players and unnecessary for others. If so, it would have been okay for Floateretty to keep away from the dirty work like he would have preferred to do.

It's not coincidence that he played better when with Cole or Radulov, times where he was more physical. It's just easier to be more physical when you aren't the only one being physical and when another player leads the way.

Demidov is still just a kid. He will also mature physically and should implicate himself that way as he matures. Getting a physical C to play with Demidov will help. If not another physical winger, at least one that is dynamic and keeps moving his feet to get opposing Ds to break down...

Never said it was true for some and not others. Was just saying you can't say well Demidov has good puck protection so he can play a F1 role. As you mentioned, you need a commitment from the whole line but there's gotta be someone who is primarily a F1 for the skilled lines and forcing Demidov to be that F1 just to have a skilled but small top 6 would be a gross injustice to the player.

Its why I'm advocating for a Cootes or a Bear with our pick over a Reschny. You *might* leave raw points on the table but you'll have a far more complete top 6 and the sum of the parts would be more effective.
 

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