Prospect Info: Draft 2025 Habs you're on the clock

[Scriptor]

Regrettably, unless we move up, Hensler won’t be there at 16 OA.

Maybe, maybe not. Some mock drafts have him ranked precisely at 16th.

I'd rather move up for Lakovic than Hensler, if we're going that way. There's more risk involved with Lakovic, but his upside is that of a game-breaking talent. We could also fall back on Fiddler if we don't land Hensler. Fiddler, anyhow, may well end up being more valuable than Hensler at the NHL level.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Maybe, maybe not. Some mock drafts have him ranked precisely at 16th.

I'd rather move up for Lakovic than Hensler, if we're going that way. There's more risk involved with Lakovic, but his upside is that of a game-breaking talent. We could also fall back on Fiddler if we don't land Hensler. Fiddler, anyhow, may well end up being more valuable than Hensler at the NHL level.

I wouldn't move up for either Lakovic or Hensler.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I strongly disagree.

Those 5 games will be absolutely huge the next time this group makes the playoffs. Much like AHLers get called up to the NHL so that they can get a feel for what they need to work on to get to the next level, the playoffs do the same thing for NHLers who have never experienced the next level after an NHL regular season. The playoffs also serve as a lesson why certain styles of play that younger players might be clinging to from their junior days do not translate in to success in the NHL. Sometimes they need to experience it instead of being told it and will adjust their game accordingly in future seasons. That already happens to some degree at every level after turning pro but this is the final level and the level where every move is most magnified and scrutinized.

The expectation never was that they would need to win a round, it was that they would gain experience that is impossible to teach as you can't just promote your NHL players to the playoffs in order to get that. If they didn't already understand the importance of sleep, training and diet it would be driven home by playoff hockey and should pound home the need for them to make as many gains as possibly during the off season.

Habs qualified to make the PO when the last team they played against had their ahl line up.
Most of what you write is true but it's also the best cliché narrative possible. I like to have the contrary opinion here because this board is going too far into the positive narrative. Hughes kept Evans and Dvorak at tdl and said he trusted his team all the way. Good intentions, good words but maybe he was hiding that no other gm would take his players in a trade.

Anyway, instead of giving some roster spots to young players like Florian X, Davidson, Beck, Roy, Kapanen and Mailloux he kept old vets that doesn't fit in the long term plan. What is the future of Evans, Savard and Dvorak with this team when they had so many ice time and they were a large part of the last regular games and playoff games? I mean, Beck could had more ice time and same with Kapanen. If the young players had ice time I would agree but the vets had most of the ice time.

If I read some of the other posts, some people suggest this or this players and someone answer he doubt this player will be available at 16 or 17. So my point is making the PO was a bit overated at the end and drafting at 10 or 11 would bring a better player than at 16.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Maybe, maybe not. Some mock drafts have him ranked precisely at 16th.

I'd rather move up for Lakovic than Hensler, if we're going that way. There's more risk involved with Lakovic, but his upside is that of a game-breaking talent. We could also fall back on Fiddler if we don't land Hensler. Fiddler, anyhow, may well end up being more valuable than Hensler at the NHL level.

Very interesting. We draft at 16, not 10 or 11. You help to prove my point.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Habs qualified to make the PO when the last team they played against had their ahl line up.
Most of what you write is true but it's also the best cliché narrative possible. I like to have the contrary opinion here because this board is going too far into the positive narrative. Hughes kept Evans and Dvorak at tdl and said he trusted his team all the way. Good intentions, good words but maybe he was hiding that no other gm would take his players in a trade.

Anyway, instead of giving some roster spots to young players like Florian X, Davidson, Beck, Roy, Kapanen and Mailloux he kept old vets that doesn't fit in the long term plan. What is the future of Evans, Savard and Dvorak with this team when they had so many ice time and they were a large part of the last regular games and playoff games? I mean, Beck could had more ice time and same with Kapanen. If the young players had ice time I would agree but the vets had most of the ice time.

If I read some of the other posts, some people suggest this or this players and someone answer he doubt this player will be available at 16 or 17. So my point is making the PO was a bit overated at the end and drafting at 10 or 11 would bring a better player than at 16.

I categorically disagree with this entire sentiment but I do respect you as a poster and don't want this to be a thing , so I am just gonna go mow the lawn instead of dragging this out

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Bear, an energetic 6-foot, 176-pound winger with the Everett Silvertips, is exactly the kind of player the Habs seem to covet.
Intense, combative, capable of making his presence felt physically, he also possesses a marked offensive instinct, a perfect mix to complete a young and talented top-6.
Before his season was cut short by a serious Achilles tendon injury, Bear had scored 40 goals and 82 points in just 56 games. The numbers speak for themselves.
His injury, however, could cause his value to plummet on some rosters. A boon in sight for the CH? Perhaps.
Especially since expert Corey Pronman (The Athletic) also placed Bear 16th in his most recent draft simulation​

Bear great fit in Montreal. See where McKenzie ranks them. I was thinking trade Jackets 2nd back to them move up from 17-14?

 

[Scriptor]

Bear great fit in Montreal. See where McKenzie ranks them. I was thinking trade Jackets 2nd back to them move up from 17-14?

Won't be enough together the 14th, I don't think. MAYBE THE 17TH, OUR 49TH OA THIS YEAR AND THEIR 2ND ROUNDER BACK IN 2026?

Montréal would have the 14th OA, the 16th OA, the 41st OA, the 81st OA and the 82nd OA, I think.

It all depends on who is still available at 14?

It also depends on if we can get a pick in the early 20s by packaging the 41st, the 49th and the 82nd?

 

[tooji]

How does Hensler compare to a player like Cam York?

 

[Deus ex machina]

Won't be enough together the 14th, I don't think. MAYBE THE 17TH, OUR 49TH OA THIS YEAR AND THEIR 2ND ROUNDER BACK IN 2026?

Montréal would have the 14th OA, the 16th OA, the 41st OA, the 81st OA and the 82nd OA, I think.

It all depends on who is still available at 14?

It also depends on if we can get a pick in the early 20s by packaging the 41st, the 49th and the 82nd?

Not sure how you came up with pick 49 and CLB 2026 2nd exactly.
Habs would have to be pretty desperate and convinced their guy wouldn't be there 2 picks later to give up that much.

According to PuckPedia, the difference in value between pick 14 and pick 17 is pick 55, and they're usually pretty spot on.
I have another chart that says pick 63.

CLB 2nd in 2026 will probably end up better than pick 55 so his offer is actually more than fair for Columbus.

Another realistic offer would be picks 17 and 49 for pick 14 and Toronto's 4th in 2026.

 

[sampollock]

draft issues should be out soon

 

[Kennerback]

Bear great fit in Montreal. See where McKenzie ranks them. I was thinking trade Jackets 2nd back to them move up from 17-14?

Because of his health, Bear will now go literally anywhere between 10 and 20. I wouldn’t be any more surprised if he goes at 12 than if he goes at 18.

 

[DemidovSZN]

Because of his health, Bear will now go literally anywhere between 10 and 20. I wouldn’t be any more surprised if he goes at 12 than if he goes at 18.

You should be surprised if he goes 18 because there’s no chance the habs doesn’t take him if he is there at 16.

 

[Captain97]

Honestly a reach for Prokhorov wouldn't upset me.

 

[MasterMatt25]

Who have the Habs been rumoured to have scouted out?

 

[Captain97]

Because of his health, Bear will now go literally anywhere between 10 and 20. I wouldn’t be any more surprised if he goes at 12 than if he goes at 18.

If we somehow get Bear + Prokhorov I'd be so hyped.

 

[DemidovSZN]

Who have the Habs been rumoured to have scouted out?

I think we mostly only know about their interest in Carter Bear. His coach was interviewed and said the habs went to see him around 10 times and Bear himself said he already went to dinner with them.

Carbonneau also, I think. They were seen often at his games.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Not sure how you came up with pick 49 and CLB 2026 2nd exactly.
Habs would have to be pretty desperate and convinced their guy wouldn't be there 2 picks later to give up that much.

According to PuckPedia, the difference in value between pick 14 and pick 17 is pick 55, and they're usually pretty spot on.
I have another chart that says pick 63.

CLB 2nd in 2026 will probably end up better than pick 55 so his offer is actually more than fair for Columbus.

Another realistic offer would be picks 17 and 49 for pick 14 and Toronto's 4th in 2026.

It would be only for Martin. If he still there at 10 or 12.

 

[Kennerback]

I'd take Aitcheson because he does stuff that stand out. Hits with heavy shot

What bugs me about Aitcheson is he's pretty much the oldest player in this draft and is a full year older than players like Schaeffer or Fiddler. I would expect him to be stronger... Same goes for Spence, it might be unreasonable but I can't shake off the fact that if he was born one week earlier he would have been in Demidov's draft.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

What bugs me about Aitcheson is he's pretty much the oldest player in this draft and is a full year older than players like Schaeffer. I would expect him to be stronger... Same goes for Spence, it might be unreasonable but I can't shake off the fact that if he was born one week earlier he would have been in Demidov's draft.

I never noticed that before. If he's had the extra year of junior it is generally an advantage in their draft year.

 

[sampollock]

Hope KH keeps 1 of the 1 rounders. but I guess if he is after a big name, then he will move both

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

I personally would be satisfied if Habs draft two of Cootes, Hensler, Carbonneau or even Nesbitt with their 16-17th picks.

Those are realistic expectations afaic.

If a Bear, Martin (won't happen, he's top 10 material) or maybe McQueen falls to Habs, of course I'd be thrilled.

P.S.: Lakovic I'd be ok cause he's tall and has skillz.

But I'm not fond on his overall dedication and intensity.

He's big but don't play a physically engaged style.

But at 6'4" and able to skate, his reach and puck protection skills could surely be something Habs could use in the future.

Personally I’ve been a big Spence fan all year. Pro size and pro game. Kinda guy that will complement a line and be a gamer in the playoffs

 

[Kennerback]

Forwards usually seen in the 10-20 all have knocks on them. My two favorites are Bear and Carbonneau, but they don't pull me out of my seat like some like Snake who really loves Bear.

The IQ guys Reschny and Kindel, I'm scared they can't score goals at the NHL level and they don't have the size to compensate. Lakovic has no physicality and questionable offense in the pros. Spence looks good but because of his age I don't think there's much space for improvement for his hockey sense. It is what is is. And I just don't get Cootes.

 

[Captain97]

Forwards usually seen in the 10-20 all have knocks on them. My two favorites are Bear and Carbonneau, but they don't pull me out of my seat like some like Snake who really loves Bear.

The IQ guys Reschny and Kindel, I'm scared they can't score goals at the NHL level and they don't have the size to compensate. Lakovic has no physicality and questionable offense in the pros. Spence looks good but because of his age I don't think there's much space for improvement for his hockey sense. It is what is is. And I just don't get Cootes.

Watch some tape of Prokhorov. The Athletic has him going in the 20's but I like him alot.

 

[Kennerback]

Watch some tape of Prokhorov. The Athletic has him going in the 20's but I like him alot.

I love him. After the Top-7, he's the only player that really excites me. But so many people see him late 2nd Round and 3rd Round that I feel I must have a big blind spot about him.

 

[DrBizz4r3]

Rumor is Carbonneau fired is old agent by email and asks him to stop contacting him in the future. Not sure that it would fly with Hugues and his past