Prospect Info: Draft 2025 Habs you're on the clock

[Runner77]

Zero interest in trading Reinbacher, RHD is arguably our biggest weakness and hardest to fill this offseason.

Centre is hardest to fill IMO.

You can always find LD who can play on the right (Guhle, Hutson, etc) but you usually can’t get a winger to play centre.

Habs should be looking to deal from redundancy but sometimes you don’t have a choice.

 

[AHShadow]

Centre is hardest to fill IMO.

You can always find LD who can play on the right (Guhle, Hutson, etc) but you usually can’t get a winger to play centre.

Habs should be looking to deal from redundancy but sometimes you don’t have a choice.

Problem with trading Reinbacher to draft a C now is that it takes a ton of time to develop defensemen. So if we trade Reinbacher to get Desnoyers/Frondell and say Hensler, we'll need to wait another 2-3 years until Hensler can play on the Habs and another 1-3 years until he makes an impact. IMO too late when we're trying to compete soon.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Centre is hardest to fill IMO.

You can always find LD who can play on the right (Guhle, Hutson, etc) but you usually can’t get a winger to play centre.

Habs should be looking to deal from redundancy but sometimes you don’t have a choice.

I would probably trade Guhle before Reinbacher but was looking at the RD & C UFA markets this offseason and in our system we have some C prospects but RHD would rely heavily on Mailloux taking a leap in development.

See who falls at the draft and go BPA if it’s a no brainer otherwise picking a C and a RHD should be the focus if they’re all near the same talent/ size

 

[Runner77]

Problem with trading Reinbacher to draft a C now is that it takes a ton of time to develop defensemen. So if we trade Reinbacher to get Desnoyers/Frondell and say Hensler, we'll need to wait another 2-3 years until Hensler can play on the Habs and another 1-3 years until he makes an impact. IMO too late when we're trying to compete soon.

There are no great solutions.

The lesser evil is to keep your best assets and sign a UFA. Gives you plenty of time not to rush anyone or trade anyone prematurely.

The next best lesser evil is to land a C over 35, who won’t cost a lot to acquire. If it all goes to crap, boot it forward to next summer. Just limit yourself to the one piece if the market demands that you gut your team.

I don’t believe in offer sheets as an option. Hughes’s edge in his dealings is the ability to have open communication channels and close interactions with his counterparts. That would be put at risk with an offer sheet.

 

[No More Subban]

Crazy how people talk about trading Reinbacher and Guhle here. Just to fill a hole only to leave another hole. Leave the prospects alone and give them time. I still believe those two (and Mailloux) will only get better.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Crazy how people talk about trading Reinbacher and Guhle here. Just to fill a hole only to leave another hole. Leave the prospects alone and give them time. I still believe those two (and Mailloux) will only get better.

This team badly needs these two to reach their quite high, imo, ceilings.

2Cs are not THAT hard to acquire.

 

[Runner77]

This team badly needs these two to reach their quite high, imo, ceilings.

2Cs are not THAT hard to acquire.

Why weren’t the Habs able to get decent 2Cs for over 30 years? They can be had now that the Habs have quality organizational assets they can trade but without that, you gotta draft and develop them and that just hasn’t been the Habs’s forte.

 

[No More Subban]

Why weren’t the Habs able to get decent 2Cs for over 30 years? They can be had now that the Habs have quality organizational assets they can trade but without that, you gotta draft and develop them and that just hasn’t been the Habs’s forte.

Just gotta start making better decisions, I guess. Habs could've drafted Tkachuk instead of KK..

 

[sampollock]

Thank you! It was driving me crazy

yup

 

[Paradoxe]

Can't wrap my head around who to draft other than Carbonneau and Aitcheson at 16 and 17, but I wonder if we could go up at 11 to draft O'Brien ... Is 16 + Pitts second and Roy enough to go up into this draft?

 

[TT1]

2 guys i'd call about = Alex Laferriere and Will Cuylle, these are the type of forwards we need and they fit our age group

i really really like Laferriere in particular

 

[Habitant#1]

Why weren’t the Habs able to get decent 2Cs for over 30 years? They can be had now that the Habs have quality organizational assets they can trade but without that, you gotta draft and develop them and that just hasn’t been the Habs’s forte.

Habs have hand a abundance of 2Cs over the last 20+ years.
But now is the first time the Habs actually have a 1C!

 

[Runner77]

Habs have hand a abundance of 2Cs over the last 20+ years.
But now is the first time the Habs actually have a 1C!

Well, yes, they had a guy at the position over the last 30 years but I don’t believe they ever had a premium asset at the position. Suzuki was a gift from the gods.

 

[Miller Time]

Guessing KH will be taking calls right up to announcing the pick, hoping a team gets excited enough about a particular player falling to pay a premium or accept the offer we've made on one of their established players...

That, or Brady Martin "falling" (I've seen him ranked anywhere from 11-12 to 19-20) to us, would make my day

 

[kyne]

Well, yes, they had a guy at the position over the last 30 years but I don’t believe they ever had a premium asset at the position. Suzuki was a gift from the gods.

The last really good second line C was Kirk Muller presuming you were willing to view Damphousse as a first line centre. Before that,, it was Bobby Smith. Either could have been a first line C.

We haven't had a good GM since Serge Savard. Let's see if HuGo can pull it off.

 

[kyne]

Crazy how people talk about trading Reinbacher and Guhle here. Just to fill a hole only to leave another hole. Leave the prospects alone and give them time. I still believe those two (and Mailloux) will only get better.

That's the Rejean Houle model. Trade Odelein for a fading Stephane Richer and leave a gaping hole on defense. Pierre Turgeon for Corson etc...

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Wouldn’t get too tied up with our first round picks. I expect both of them to be moved.

Don't get too attached to the idea of trading them either, as HuGo have repeated they want someone that fits and makes sense. There are no assurances they'll find what they are looking for. The picks will definitely be in play, but don't be surprised if they draft both because there wasn't the opportunity they were looking for.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Why weren’t the Habs able to get decent 2Cs for over 30 years? They can be had now that the Habs have quality organizational assets they can trade but without that, you gotta draft and develop them and that just hasn’t been the Habs’s forte.

He meant 2nd line C and we've had plenty of those over the last 30 years. Koivu, Plekanec, Danault and Ribs. To a lesser degree Desharnais and Grabovsky.

We had a hard time getting 1Cs, but now that we have one, we should be able to repeat the past and get a 2C?

 

[WinterLion]

Don't get too attached to the idea of trading them either, as HuGo have repeated they want someone that fits and makes sense. There are no assurances they'll find what they are looking for. The picks will definitely be in play, but don't be surprised if they draft both because there wasn't the opportunity they were looking for.

There will be some very nice players available at 16 & 17 so it will take a deal that works for us long term... which will be hard...

I think there is more chance of moving some of the later picks... and some of the young players (like we did with harris & Kovacevic & Baron)

This draft will be important because hopefully it will be one of the last years with us getting high picks...

 

[Miller Time]

Don't get too attached to the idea of trading them either, as HuGo have repeated they want someone that fits and makes sense. There are no assurances they'll find what they are looking for. The picks will definitely be in play, but don't be surprised if they draft both because there wasn't the opportunity they were looking for.

This. And if we nail the picks (prospects that have strong D1/D2 years), they bolster our trade capital to go add that key missing piece to push us into cup contention

 

[Habs]

I would probably trade Guhle before Reinbacher but was looking at the RD & C UFA markets this offseason and in our system we have some C prospects but RHD would rely heavily on Mailloux taking a leap in development.

See who falls at the draft and go BPA if it’s a no brainer otherwise picking a C and a RHD should be the focus if they’re all near the same talent/ size

but there's no guarantee Reinbacher even plays in the NHL still with his knee, and Guhle is an anchor on our blueline. I would never move Guhle thinking Reinbacher can replace him, he isn't a sure thing. Has Reinbacher even impressed you in his AHL debut this year? He's been ok (when he's played) but nothing that says he's a lock in Montreal still. I doubt he makes the NHL next year, he hasn't had enough time yet , I'd be shocked if he does next year.

 

[sampollock]

Carbo seems to be a popular choice on this thread

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

This is a draft thread, the 2nd draft thread, why the f*** are people trying to make it into yet another trade thread?

 

[1909]

2 guys i'd call about = Alex Laferriere and Will Cuylle, these are the type of forwards we need and they fit our age group

i really really like Laferriere in particular

Cuylle and Knies were available in their respective second rounds….. Like in Hutson's case, many scouts were sleeping deeply.

 

[le_sean]

Carbo seems to be a popular choice on this thread

They won’t pick him. They don’t want players unwilling to make simple plays to help the team. He’s talented but an extremely selfish player. Doesn’t fit our core.