Prospect Info: Draft 2025 Habs your on the clock

[sampollock]

"We have so many options now.

We can go get a player, trade for another pick, shop it around in a deal.

We'll explore the options, but it's definitely an exciting time for us."

- Bill Armstrong

4th overall? move up or not?

 

[Doublechin]

"We have so many options now.

We can go get a player, trade for another pick, shop it around in a deal.

We'll explore the options, but it's definitely an exciting time for us."

- Bill Armstrong

4th overall? move up or not?

Before drafting Simashev, Utah wanted Reinbacher, I wonder if a Reinbacher deal perhaps with an add-on could get us the 4th pick which probably gets us one of Desnoyers or Hagens

I would not be against such a trade simply based on DRs injury history but high odds, Utah would feel the same way now.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

"We have so many options now.

We can go get a player, trade for another pick, shop it around in a deal.

We'll explore the options, but it's definitely an exciting time for us."

- Bill Armstrong

4th overall? move up or not?

They should trade back once or twice, add some ammo and still end up with a better pick than they had before the lotto

Maybe with Boston, then Boston gets Hagens and Utah gets Martin/Desnoyers/Frondell

 

[WeThreeKings]

Before drafting Simashev, Utah wanted Reinbacher, I wonder if a Reinbacher deal perhaps with an add-on could get us the 4th pick which probably gets us one of Desnoyers or Hagens

I would not be against such a trade simply based on DRs injury history but high odds, Utah would feel the same way now.

Why would we want to trade Reinbacher for a lesser prospect who is further away?

 

[Walksss]

If pick 1-15 goes the way Wheeler says, I'd definitely go for Bear first.

After that, Hensler, Spence, Nesbitt, Gastrin or take a risk with Ryabkin if the interview goes well.

If we come out of this draft with Hensler and Bear I'm gonna be stoked. The more I've watched Hensler the more I'm convinced he's a top4 RD in the future.

 

[dcyhabs]

You should still draft BPA (as far as you can tell BPA), so that trades are easier. The chance that any draft pick at this point contributes to a Suzuki-led team is decreasing fast with the years. These picks, if made, will likely be traded to improve the team down the road.

BPA is just "don't screw up." No one complains that Romanov wasn't BPA anymore, though there was some griping at the time. The first 5 to 10 picks are more and more reliable every year, so it's pretty risky to reach with really early picks, but once you are into the teens you have to hope your scouts know more than the media, and that you know the player that will help your team. Even with that there are years like the Slaf pick where there was no consensus at the time, and not much now. Cooley looks good, as does Nazar, but the habs didn't really have space for another small forward, though either could have replaced Newhook. Slaf has been up and down.

Taking KK when he wasn't really in the discussion was a reach, compounded by bad development. McCarron was a reach because they could probably have taken him a round or two later. Taking one of 5 guys ranked in the teens at 16 or 17 is not a reach, unless you are passing up Caufield. I doubt you need to worry much about BPA or anything else by the end of the second round because any player who makes it will have developed so much that he is unrecognizable from draft day.

The habs have often failed in the draft chasing big players, since the last cup, and been successful with small guys who dropped. They need to find a few good big players, and they can't really play another small D, but they shouldn't pass on an elite small forward.

 

[Legend123]

Before drafting Simashev, Utah wanted Reinbacher, I wonder if a Reinbacher deal perhaps with an add-on could get us the 4th pick which probably gets us one of Desnoyers or Hagens

I would not be against such a trade simply based on DRs injury history but high odds, Utah would feel the same way now.

U know who else wanted reinbacher so badly? Montreal were not trading him away

 

[Andrei79]

Maybe. Other reports say we were targeting Ostlund and didn’t think he was going to be there, and we didn’t want to wait to see and miss the deal with Chicago.

PLD was also clearly being discussed around the same time as he showed up to the draft in Montreal wearing a suit and stormed out when the Dach trade was announced, he thought he was getting traded to Montreal that night.

Point is we were probably moving Romanov for a 1st no matter what, with the war in Russia and the incoming LHD, Hughes decided they didn’t need him.

I don’t care about Nazar because he wouldn’t have been my pick or the Habs pick so he’s pointless to discuss.

It’s really Dach vs Romanov vs Ostlund vs PLD

"So, we had conversations that didn't really go anywhere, based on what they were looking for, to make that pick. Over the course of conversations internally, we tried to move up in the draft because that's what they were looking for, and we were trying to do it with picks. … So, unfortunately, we lose a good member of our team in Alexander Romanov, and we wish him the best. But in doing that, we were able to get where we needed to go to make this happen."

So, no, they weren't trading Romanov for a first. Their first choice was to trade the picks they already had to move up in the draft to get the pick needed to trade for Dach.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Id even be down with a Cleveland Browns draft considering there seems to be a drop off after the top-13/14

Trade one of our 1sts for an unprotected first next year and a 2nd this year

 

[TT1]

I still think Lakovic is off the table for character concerns

He was once suspended indefinitely with a bunch of other players on his team for a hush hush off ice incident

Too close to the team Canada incident for my liking, don’t want him, he’s one of the guys I hope gets drafted before our picks so someone we actually want falls to us

ah ok didn't know about that

 

[austin316]

They'll use at least one. Hard to imagine they'd be able to pull off two trades of such magnitude that the firsts are part of both. I think they'd also like to have another potential ELC contributor in a few years.

I’m just not sure one middling pick is going to be enough to bring in the type of player(s) this team needs.

If they’re going to make a trade, may as well make it worthwhile and package both out and get the player we covet. We still have two 2nd rounders and three 3rd rounders to add to our prospect pool.

 

[Doublechin]

Why would we want to trade Reinbacher for a lesser prospect who is further away?

I would personally consider it because of the injury history and because I do think he'll become a second pairing stay at home RD, while a commodity, this isn't one that will cost a fortune on the trade market or UFA route.

A 2C, I see as more valuable now and later, nothing certain about this

 

[Garbageyuk]

Everyone is like WE MUST TRADE EVERYONE

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But personally i think we must be very cautious.

COuple of years ago NYI were in a very good spot. They had 22 years old Barzal, 27 years old Nelson, 29 years old Lee, 29 years old Bailey, 22 years old Beauvillier, 25 years old Devan Toews, 28 years old Leddy, 25 years old Pelech, 24 years old Pulock, 19 years old Dobson, 24 years old Sorokin.

They got to the semis in 20 and semis again in 21. With Dobson, Sorokin, Barzal and good vets future looked bright. Then they decided to trade EVERYONE. Traded a 13th overall (Nazar) for Romanov. TRaded a 1st and Raty for Horvat. TRaded a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for Pageau, Traded two 2nd and a 3rd to dump Andrew Ladd's contract, Traded a 3rd for Engvail.

The end result? They have to rebuilt again 5 years later. KH must be very cautious. Don't trade everyone and make sure they players you acquire have at least 4-5 more years of prime left or are very cheap.

I agree with this sentiment. Not sure what Habs fans think they’re gonna get with those two 1sts, but it’s probably not going to be worth it.

Young Cs with upside (e.g., Byfield, McTavish, Cozens, etc) are not going to be available without it ending up as a lateral move, meaning we’d have to include someone like Caufield, Slafkovsky, Reinbacher, Guhle, etc. Futures only aren’t going to cut it for these players, and if it isn’t these type of Cs, I wouldn’t be interested.

Best course for the Habs at the moment is to try in free agency for a 2 year deal, and stand pat and develop what we have (Kapanen, Hage) if that doesn’t work out.

We’ll have a pretty good idea by the end of next season whether or not Kapanen has 2C potential; the Habs should at least wait until then to make any major moves.

Our contention window hasn’t even opened yet, ffs. People need to chill.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I would personally consider it because of the injury history and because I do think he'll become a second pairing stay at home RD, while a commodity, this isn't one that will cost a fortune on the trade market or UFA route.

A 2C, I see as more valuable now and later, nothing certain about this

There's no injury history. He has as much of an injury history as Tij Iginla. You guys need to stop sensationilizing that.

 

[FF de Mars]

Id even be down with a Cleveland Browns draft considering there seems to be a drop off after the top-13/14

Trade one of our 1sts for an unprotected first next year and a 2nd this year

I'd rather Travis Hunter, the real guy they needed. The Browns blew it.

 

[EveryDay]

Why would we want to trade Reinbacher for a lesser prospect who is further away?

You believe Frondell, Desnoyers and Hagens are lower prospects?

 

[austin316]

I would personally consider it because of the injury history and because I do think he'll become a second pairing stay at home RD, while a commodity, this isn't one that will cost a fortune on the trade market or UFA route.

A 2C, I see as more valuable now and later, nothing certain about this

Not sure I agree with this. RD are quite possibly the hardest asset to acquire.

 

[WeThreeKings]

You believe Frondell, Desnoyers and Hagens are lower prospects?

Than Reinbacher? Frondell and Desnoyers, definitely. Hagens is the same level but we have 0 need for a soft perimeter playmaker 2C compared to a big, rangy, smooth skating right shot defenseman with offensive tools.

 

[EveryDay]

Than Reinbacher? Frondell and Desnoyers, definitely. Hagens is the same level but we have 0 need for a soft perimeter playmaker 2C compared to a big, rangy, smooth skating right shot defenseman with offensive tools.

Understood.

That's why I was asking would you trade Reinbacher for that 4th pick from Utah to draft Frondell or Desnoyer or Hagens.

What about Misa?

Really tough decision if you ask me....

 

[Deebs]

Understood.

That's why I was asking would you trade Reinbacher for that 4th pick from Utah to draft Frondell or Desnoyer or Hagens.

What about Misa?

Really tough decision if you ask me....

I'd have to think hard on that one.....I like that Misa kid

 

[domiwroze]

Understood.

That's why I was asking would you trade Reinbacher for that 4th pick from Utah to draft Frondell or Desnoyer or Hagens.

What about Misa?

Really tough decision if you ask me....

I doubt there's even a parallel universe where Misa isn't gone after the 2nd pick tho.

#16 and 17 seems like the perfect spot for a player in the concenssus top12 to drop right on our laps like Caufield.

 

[EveryDay]

I doubt there's even a parallel universe where Misa isn't gone after the 2nd pick tho.

#16 and 17 seems like the perfect spot for a player in the concenssus top12 to drop right on our laps like Caufield.

I meant in a trade with SJ, anyway its only hypothetical, MTL are not climbing in the top5 in this draft.

Let's see what KH do with our picks.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Still wanting Malcolm Spence.

There's other id take but I doubt they drop.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Understood.

That's why I was asking would you trade Reinbacher for that 4th pick from Utah to draft Frondell or Desnoyer or Hagens.

What about Misa?

Really tough decision if you ask me....

Not for me. We can find a 2C in trade or FA. Getting a Reinbacher is a much tougher proposition and I'm glad we got ours when we had the chance.

 

[Doublechin]

Not sure I agree with this. RD are quite possibly the hardest asset to acquire.

Elite or even top pairing RDs, I agree