Prospect Info: Draft 2025 Habs your on the clock

[sampollock]

One of those first rounders is most definitely gone in a trade for a 2C.

cant' wait for
"we have a trade to announce"

 

[BLONG7]

cool
let's hope

maybe KH uses the 2 1st rounders and moves up??

Would our two picks, get us inside the top 10??

 

[The Great Weal]

I’d say there a better chance that we trade both 1sts than draft with both 1sts. Hopefully no more projects for Kent.

 

[sampollock]

Would our two picks, get us inside the top 10??

that is what I mentioned too? hard to say what KH will do

 

[sampollock]

I’d say there a better chance that we trade both 1sts than draft with both 1sts. Hopefully no more projects for Kent.

the newhook experience proved that

 

[BLONG7]

We are turning a corner, we don't need any more projects.
We need guys who have proven they can play a role in the NHL.
We need a 2C so badly.

 

[sampollock]

We are turning a corner, we don't need any more projects.
We need guys who have proven they can play a role in the NHL.
We need a 2C so badly.

you know it
Use the 2 picks IF they get are really good high end centre

 

[WeThreeKings]

Would our two picks, get us inside the top 10??

If the Habs were in the top 10.. would you trade away a potential 2nd line center for two question marks?

The draft drops off too much. I don't see a singular team doing that type of analysis where it would make sense. We'd be technically overpaying in theory but in practicality, it's hard to give up certainty for two shots at uncertainty.

 

[BLONG7]

If the Habs were in the top 10.. would you trade away a potential 2nd line center for two question marks?

The draft drops off too much. I don't see a singular team doing that type of analysis where it would make sense. We'd be technically overpaying in theory but in practicality, it's hard to give up certainty for two shots at uncertainty.

Of course not.............but there are 22 other teams you can trade with.
Teams with issues with cap etc

 

[calder candidate]

Everyone is like WE MUST TRADE EVERYONE

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But personally i think we must be very cautious.

COuple of years ago NYI were in a very good spot. They had 22 years old Barzal, 27 years old Nelson, 29 years old Lee, 29 years old Bailey, 22 years old Beauvillier, 25 years old Devan Toews, 28 years old Leddy, 25 years old Pelech, 24 years old Pulock, 19 years old Dobson, 24 years old Sorokin.

They got to the semis in 20 and semis again in 21. With Dobson, Sorokin, Barzal and good vets future looked bright. Then they decided to trade EVERYONE. Traded a 13th overall (Nazar) for Romanov. TRaded a 1st and Raty for Horvat. TRaded a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for Pageau, Traded two 2nd and a 3rd to dump Andrew Ladd's contract, Traded a 3rd for Engvail.

The end result? They have to rebuilt again 5 years later. KH must be very cautious. Don't trade everyone and make sure they players you acquire have at least 4-5 more years of prime left or are very cheap.

Agree too many mistake are made at this point team keep tripping over there own feet trying to fill that last piece losing focus on the bigger picture… it isn’t time to be overly aggressive. We have a momentum we should see more interest from UFA and maybe will be on less no trade list.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Gary Bettman: "The Montreal Canadiens trade Mike Matheson, [insert B prospect], and the no.16 and no.17 picks in this year's draft for [insert 2C acquisition]"

Is this Bergevin?

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

I am intrigued by that McQueen dude, will he be around @ 8-10A? If so, would Habs be able to use both 1sts to move up?

Not for me, too much like Dach

 

[ChesterNimitz]

you know it
Use the 2 picks IF they get are really good high end centre

They thought that way with the Dach trade. This draft has good value in the top 20. If you need instant gratification for a second center, there are several available in free agency.

Unless the deal is too good to say no to: keep those mid range first round picks.

 

[FedorTyutin]

Not a lot of 2C will easily be available. At this point, if I had to guess, I'd say Marco Rossi, whom I would totally love. He doesn't get a lot of faceoffs, tho, and he's small, so we'll see.

If we lack a trading partner and we go the picking with 16th and 17th picks route, I'd go Carbonneau with one of the picks, and a safer pick, middle-6 forward, such as Spence or Martin, depending on who's available. Jack Nesbitt is climbing those rankings too, he is a big physical center but likely to play on a bottom-6 rather than on the top-6.

 

[Jabba11]

Give me Brady Martin.

 

[JadedRandom]

It's like when Gallagher - Danault - Tatar was our first line. I was hoping there would be a day when they would be our 3rd line. I would be very happy with Matheson - Carrier as our 3rd pair, to say the least:

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - UFA RD
Matheson - Carrier

Hutson has shown he can play both sides, though I agree he looks a bit better on the left. But if we can get a better player as LD rather than RD, we should not hesitate to pull the trigger on the LD.

And so what you just posted could actually be:

UFA LD (Gavrikov would be ideal) - Hutson
Guhle-Reinbacher
Matheson-Carrier
Struble/Xhekaj

That's a MUCH better defensive lineup than what we've had this year and last.

As for the Draft, Cootes, Martin, Aitcheson, and Hensler would be my preferred targets in the 16-17 range.

I wouldn't be mad if we drafted Carbonneau though, the dude has great all-around skills, strong skating, some underrated physicality, but just needs to refine decision-making. And when Carbonneau wants, he can definitely pull-off some amazing passes showcasing vision so we can't say he has no IQ/vision because he does; it's just inconsistent in his case.

 

[JadedRandom]

what I read defense is a issue with him?

Effort is an issue with Ryabkin, and it is the single most-important attribute that must NOT be lacking in a defensive player.

Not only are Ryabkin's reads defensively quite immature, but that lack of effort of his would make him a liability at the NHL level right now if he played this year as-is.

Ryabkin's slow, already physically-mature (i suspect this is why he dominated in Russia so much in his D-1) which means lesser runway for further development, loves the physical game and can absolutely destroy people open-ice or on the boards.

But the lackadaisical attitude and lousy backchecks are major turn-offs for me as an evaluator. And they get compounded by the lack of physical runway and bad skating.

And though I value Ryabkin's shot and manipulation skills highly, I have come around since more than a year ago and wouldn't categorize Ryabkin's hockey-IQ as "high-end" anymore; it's "average-adjacent" at best by NHL standards as far as I can tell from my viewings of him in Russia and the USHL.

So yeah, middling hockey-sense, below-average speed for the NHL right now, lack of physical runway on an average frame, bad reads defensively, a lack of effort back-checking and implicating himself defensively have made me drop Ryabkin off a cliff draft-wise ever since the season started.

He went from my presumptive top-5, arguably as a top-3 pick going into August, to the 48th place in my current ranking.

 

[Kaiden Ghoul]

I'm on the trading the pick bandwagon

But right now, Spence for sure, will have to take a look at the D since i would like to target a top 4 D if we draft with both pick

 

[Reimannsum1988]

Hughes will trade it, which is unfortunate given that his track record with such moves consists of:

Trading a top-four physical defenseman for a mid first round pick.
Trading a mid-first for a bust.
Trading a late first for a fourth line winger.
Trading up for a higher first just to draft a worse player than the one selected with our original, lower pick.

I hope to God we just keep the pick rather than throw it in the garbage.

 

[Naslund]

There are too many good centers around our picks not to pick one. I think Reschny, Kindel, Cootes or Martin will be one of our picks (Martin would require trading up, which will be hard I think).

 

[Tim Wallach]

Martin is my guy for sure. Exactly what the team needs and a more impressive prospect than Spence for sure if you ask me.

 

[KevSkillz4]

No matter what, I trust the management and the scouts!!