Prospect Info: Draft 2025 - Everyone is trading up, but no one seems to be trading down edition

[Ryder71]

Easy to do as a Pens fan. Based on the team history: Top 5 pick = good. Not top 5 pick = bad.

I liked Doug Bodger. I liked Martin Straka. I liked Marcus Naslund. They were drafted 9th, 19th and 16th respectively. Orpik as well, he was 18th OA.

 

[Lust for Life]

I too have never been wrong.

 

[Ryder71]

I too have never been wrong.

You're always wrong.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Hagens gonna fall to.....10th.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

I too have never been wrong.

You're always wrong.

This is like one of those fantasy role playing situations where one person always tells the truth and the other always lies.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

This is like one of those fantasy role playing situations where one person always tells the truth and the other always lies.

Like the talking door knockers from Labyrinth?

I feel like THIS particular riddle would be a lot easier to solve.

 

[Ryder71]

This is like one of those fantasy role playing situations where one person always tells the truth and the other always lies.

I know he lies, always!

 

[Jacob]

I think if Hagens or Martone fall past 5 we should start making calls and I might even be making some calls if they're gone but Martin is still around by 7 or 8.

 

[Ryder71]

Like the talking door knockers from Labyrinth?

I feel like THIS particular riddle would be a lot easier to solve.

Do tell.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Due tell.

 

[chrisp200]

Now that the 2nd pick is secured I think you need to push your chips in to get into the top 6 to draft Hagens or Martone.

Drafting Hagens scares me. Not because of the talent but because he may pull a Tavares and go to his hometown team once his entry contract is up.

 

[Ryder71]

I think if Hagens or Martone fall past 5 we should start making calls and I might even be making some calls if they're gone but Martin is still around by 7 or 8.

The latter is what I'm interested in. JOB, EK or Martin. If we can move up to 7th or 8th at least one should be there.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

This is like one of those fantasy role playing situations where one person always tells the truth and the other always lies.

Blue Prince gem box room, the classic.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I think if Hagens or Martone fall past 5 we should start making calls and I might even be making some calls if they're gone but Martin is still around by 7 or 8.

I don't know that anybody but Martone or Hagens is worth it, but Martin and Desnoyers are at least interesting as well.

 

[DesertPenguin]

This place is 100% going to melt down if they take Aitcheson at #11 or #12, I know it

Im fine with it as long as we get a C with the other pick.

 

[Turin]

Drafting Hagens scares me. Not because of the talent but because he may pull a Tavares and go to his hometown team once his entry contract is up.

I think that’s usually overblown. Tavares would probably have stayed if NYI was a better org while he was there.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

I think that’s usually overblown. Tavares would probably have stayed if NYI was a better org while he was there.

He also stayed well past his ELC.

 

[Freeptop]

Here's my prediction for the Draft: Dubas will try to trade up, but nobody picking above him will be willing to move their pick in the end, so he won't be able to.
The folks on these boards will spend at least the next decade complaining that he didn't move up.
(Okay, this last part is a gimme, because no matter what happens, folks around here will complain about it for the next decade )

 

[Ryder71]

Spitballin, but value wise it works with PP.

NAS gets 11th, 12th and 73rd, value 64.38

PIT gets 5TH, 26TH and 149th value 64.38

Wish we could do this.

 

[Pancakes]

Nobody says a bunch of stuff without saying nothing quite like my man Friedman.

Every year there's talk of how teams are listening on their top 5 picks and blah blah blah and then the draft arrives and everyone just makes their picks instead of making trades.

Anyone who thinks Dubas is going to trade into the top 5 or even the top 10 shouldn't get their hopes up too high.

 

[The Old Master]

Something like 11, 12, Rust for Byram and 9, for example.

it should not take both picks if we are adding rust. i'm not even sure it should include any picks higher than a 2nd rounder if we are trading rust

 

[Ryder71]

Every year there's talk of how teams are listening on their top 5 picks and blah blah blah and then the draft arrives and everyone just makes their picks instead of making trades.

Anyone who thinks Dubas is going to trade into the top 5 or even the top 10 shouldn't get their hopes up too high.

I don't think we can get into the top five. I was just trying to design a fair value model. I do however think it's quite possible to get up to 8th OA.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Duplicate

 

[DesertPenguin]

it should not take both picks if we are adding rust. i'm not even sure it should include any picks higher than a 2nd rounder if we are trading rust

We're getting 9 back in this scenario...

 

[T1K]

Any chance we take a shot at LJ mooney if he's still there in the 3rd round? We have 3 3rd round picks

I was just reading about him. I saw he’s projected to go round 3-6. Pretty wide range which is typical for a player like that. I’d be interested, but I have a bias towards local kids.