Prospect Info: Draft 2025 - Everyone is trading up, but no one seems to be trading down edition

[Gurglesons]

I agree but it will make people here mad.

The ideal outcome in this draft without some unexpected faller (someone like Hagens or O'Brien) is McQueen at #11 and Eklund at #12. I have no qualms with McQueen at #11 if he slides there.

I honestly don't really care who we draft at 11 or 12.

 

[xlm34]

I want another Pouliot situation. Trade up to 8 with Hagens on the board and take Aitcheson.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Watch there be no pick swaps in the 1st round at the draft this year because Friedman is hyping it up

 

[Ryder71]

I will say this, Our decisions early in the draft are 80% of the ball game. We have to make very sound, well reasoned decisions. I'm a little concerned as to what they'll do. Hope they try to move up.

That said, I have every confidence in them deriving very good value in subsequent rounds.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I feel like there is always at least one national level reporter who Tweets something every draft about "THIS IS GONNA BE A WILD ONE BUCKLE UP" and every year it just goes straight down the line.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Took a quick look and the last time only 1 D was taken in the top 10 was 2006. We just need one or two of Mrtka/Smith/Aitechson taken in the top 10 for a good forward to drop to the Pens

 

[Malkinstheman]

I feel like there is always at least one national level reporter who Tweets something every draft about "THIS IS GONNA BE A WILD ONE BUCKLE UP" and every year it just goes straight down the line.

Lol

 

[Lust for Life]

I want another Pouliot situation. Trade up to 8 with Hagens on the board and take Aitcheson.

There we have it. The perfect post.

 

[Jared Grayden]

Lol

I'll believe it when I see it. Though this week I have a work seminar in Vegas so it probably will be wildly entertaining as I won't be able to watch live.

 

[Bishop7979]

I really don’t see anyone at 11 and 12. Dubas needs to use the draft capital to get into the top.

This draft is one of the weakest in years, it's not worth overpaying to get into the top three , it's a year where if you dont make any moves you take the top two forwards available at 11 and 12 and use the second round to restock defense and call it a day.

You could potentially end up with your future second line center and either 3rd wheel first line wing or play driving second line winger with those picks. Two things the team absolutely needs because they need everything.

Next year is when you look towards making sure you get as close to the top of the order as possible.

Because of the lack of quality overall this year is the definition of quantity over quality. Get the best complimentary pieces you can for the core piece you grab in 26.[/QUOTE]

 

[TojoP]

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I hope we didn’t trade Marcus Pettersson for another Marcus Pettersson.

Honestly right handed with a large reach and a little more physical doesn't feel like a bad player to me. I don't think we get Mrtka, but I'd be happy with him and a forward.

 

[Richard]

Based on our picks and where this team is - you take kids with the highest upside rather than the most ready/likely to succeed etc.

You want a gamebreaker - take whoever has that potential x2

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I have a feeling the Hawks are gonna trade their pick. Either to jump up for Schaefer, or to trade down and get some win now assets for Bedard.

 

[Andy99]

Based on our picks and where this team is - you take kids with the highest upside rather than the most ready/likely to succeed etc.

You want a gamebreaker - take whoever has that potential x2

Should I hold onto my butt, Richard?

 

[eXile3]

Or tragic, depending.

We realistically won’t know until at least 2028 so I’m going to enjoy the ride for the moment.

 

[Andy99]

I have a feeling the Hawks are gonna trade their pick. Either to jump up for Schaefer, or to trade down and get some win now assets for Bedard.

Maybe they would like a Rust for a ASP + lol?

 

[Richard]

11th Overall:​

• 1+ NHL Games: 85.0% (51/60)
• 100+ NHL Games: 65.0% (39/60)
• 300+ NHL Games: 58.3% (35/60)
• 500+ NHL Games: 45.0% (27/60)
• 750+ NHL Games: 31.6% (19/60)
• 1000+ NHL Games: 18.3% (11/60)

• 1+ NHL Points: 81.6% (49/60)
• 100+ NHL Points: 55.0% (33/60)
• 300+ NHL Points: 30.0% (18/60)
• 500+ NHL Points: 16.6% (10/60)
• 750+ NHL Points: 10.0% (6/60)
• 1000+ NHL Points: 3.3% (2/60)

12th Overall:​

• 1+ NHL Games: 83.6% (51/61)
• 100+ NHL Games: 65.5% (40/61)
• 300+ NHL Games: 44.2% (27/61)
• 500+ NHL Games: 34.4% (21/61)
• 750+ NHL Games: 18.0% (11/61)
• 1000+ NHL Games: 8.1% (5/61)

• 1+ NHL Points: 81.6% (49/61)
• 100+ NHL Points: 47.5% (29/61)
• 300+ NHL Points: 21.3% (13/61)
• 500+ NHL Points: 13.1% (8/61)
• 750+ NHL Points: 4.9% (3/61)
• 1000+ NHL Points: 1.6% (1/61)

Trading up, unless you get top 1 or 2 maybbbbbeee 3 is hardly worth the difference when you look at points and games etc.

 

[eXile3]

Based on our picks and where this team is - you take kids with the highest upside rather than the most ready/likely to succeed etc.

You want a gamebreaker - take whoever has that potential x2

Agreed. Take some big swings. Guys who are looking like 3rd liners, 3rd pairing dmen don’t excite me.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Let's get crazy:

Trade 11th+12th for 8th+Tampa's 2026 1st
Trade 8th+Rust to Chicago for 3rd+NYI's 2026 2nd

Draft Aitcheson 3rd overall.

Misa if available, Martone, Hagens, Frondell, or Desnoyers (whoever the team values) if not.

 

[Ryder71]

We realistically won’t know until at least 2028 so I’m going to enjoy the ride for the moment.

Valid point, however there are obviously certain players I prefer over others and some who have a more boom-bust perception. I don't remember a 1st I liked that didn't pan out. Nor do I remember a 1st I didn't like do much. I'll trust my instincts here.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

11th Overall:​

• 1+ NHL Games: 85.0% (51/60)
• 100+ NHL Games: 65.0% (39/60)
• 300+ NHL Games: 58.3% (35/60)
• 500+ NHL Games: 45.0% (27/60)
• 750+ NHL Games: 31.6% (19/60)
• 1000+ NHL Games: 18.3% (11/60)
• 1+ NHL Points: 81.6% (49/60)
• 100+ NHL Points: 55.0% (33/60)
• 300+ NHL Points: 30.0% (18/60)
• 500+ NHL Points: 16.6% (10/60)
• 750+ NHL Points: 10.0% (6/60)
• 1000+ NHL Points: 3.3% (2/60)

12th Overall:​

• 1+ NHL Games: 83.6% (51/61)
• 100+ NHL Games: 65.5% (40/61)
• 300+ NHL Games: 44.2% (27/61)
• 500+ NHL Games: 34.4% (21/61)
• 750+ NHL Games: 18.0% (11/61)
• 1000+ NHL Games: 8.1% (5/61)
• 1+ NHL Points: 81.6% (49/61)
• 100+ NHL Points: 47.5% (29/61)
• 300+ NHL Points: 21.3% (13/61)
• 500+ NHL Points: 13.1% (8/61)
• 750+ NHL Points: 4.9% (3/61)
• 1000+ NHL Points: 1.6% (1/61)

Trading up, unless you get top 1 or 2 maybbbbbeee 3 is hardly worth the difference when you look at points and games etc.

I don’t like these type of looks at draft slots because it doesn’t really take into account who the team realistically passed on.

They can get top 6 and top 4 players at these picks for sure.

 

[DesertPenguin]

if we are moving up to 9 it would need to be our 12+a player or lower pick

Something like 11, 12, Rust for Byram and 9, for example.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

11th Overall:​

• 1+ NHL Games: 85.0% (51/60)
• 100+ NHL Games: 65.0% (39/60)
• 300+ NHL Games: 58.3% (35/60)
• 500+ NHL Games: 45.0% (27/60)
• 750+ NHL Games: 31.6% (19/60)
• 1000+ NHL Games: 18.3% (11/60)
• 1+ NHL Points: 81.6% (49/60)
• 100+ NHL Points: 55.0% (33/60)
• 300+ NHL Points: 30.0% (18/60)
• 500+ NHL Points: 16.6% (10/60)
• 750+ NHL Points: 10.0% (6/60)
• 1000+ NHL Points: 3.3% (2/60)

12th Overall:​

• 1+ NHL Games: 83.6% (51/61)
• 100+ NHL Games: 65.5% (40/61)
• 300+ NHL Games: 44.2% (27/61)
• 500+ NHL Games: 34.4% (21/61)
• 750+ NHL Games: 18.0% (11/61)
• 1000+ NHL Games: 8.1% (5/61)
• 1+ NHL Points: 81.6% (49/61)
• 100+ NHL Points: 47.5% (29/61)
• 300+ NHL Points: 21.3% (13/61)
• 500+ NHL Points: 13.1% (8/61)
• 750+ NHL Points: 4.9% (3/61)
• 1000+ NHL Points: 1.6% (1/61)

Trading up, unless you get top 1 or 2 maybbbbbeee 3 is hardly worth the difference when you look at points and games etc.

Wow those are... some pretty eye-opening numbers right there haha

 

[Ryder71]

11th Overall:​

• 1+ NHL Games: 85.0% (51/60)
• 100+ NHL Games: 65.0% (39/60)
• 300+ NHL Games: 58.3% (35/60)
• 500+ NHL Games: 45.0% (27/60)
• 750+ NHL Games: 31.6% (19/60)
• 1000+ NHL Games: 18.3% (11/60)
• 1+ NHL Points: 81.6% (49/60)
• 100+ NHL Points: 55.0% (33/60)
• 300+ NHL Points: 30.0% (18/60)
• 500+ NHL Points: 16.6% (10/60)
• 750+ NHL Points: 10.0% (6/60)
• 1000+ NHL Points: 3.3% (2/60)

12th Overall:​

• 1+ NHL Games: 83.6% (51/61)
• 100+ NHL Games: 65.5% (40/61)
• 300+ NHL Games: 44.2% (27/61)
• 500+ NHL Games: 34.4% (21/61)
• 750+ NHL Games: 18.0% (11/61)
• 1000+ NHL Games: 8.1% (5/61)
• 1+ NHL Points: 81.6% (49/61)
• 100+ NHL Points: 47.5% (29/61)
• 300+ NHL Points: 21.3% (13/61)
• 500+ NHL Points: 13.1% (8/61)
• 750+ NHL Points: 4.9% (3/61)
• 1000+ NHL Points: 1.6% (1/61)

Trading up, unless you get top 1 or 2 maybbbbbeee 3 is hardly worth the difference when you look at points and games etc.

Historically sure, but as you know not all drafts are the same. And in this particular draft there is a precipitous drop off after 8th or 9th according to most. Maybe it's 7th maybe 10th. Point is in general I agree, but in this particular case it might not be applicable.

 

[Jared Grayden]

Valid point, however there are obviously certain players I prefer over others and some who have a more boom-bust perception. I don't remember a 1st I liked that didn't pan out. Nor do I remember a 1st I didn't like do much. I'll trust my instincts here.

Easy to do as a Pens fan. Based on the team history: Top 5 pick = good. Not top 5 pick = bad.