Speculation: Post Draft 2024 Discussion

Whom you want us to pick?

  • Silayev

    Votes: 7 8.1%
  • Levshunov

    Votes: 6 7.0%
  • Demidov

    Votes: 35 40.7%
  • Sennecke

    Votes: 11 12.8%
  • Buium

    Votes: 16 18.6%
  • Yakemchuck

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Dickinson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lindstrom

    Votes: 9 10.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • Total voters
    86

DucksRoll

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I think a lot of fans are massively ignoring the significant risk factors with Demidov. There's a reason he's projected to drop and it isn't because all these front offices are dumber than the average fan. It also isn't because he's definitely worse than options who will be picked over him. It's because he carries a lot of risk for multiple reasons.
 
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What's the incentive for MTL to move up if they know 3 and 4 don't want Demidov?
There’s a ton of speculation around that 4th pick getting moved. People thought Philly, and I’m not sure which direction they would’ve went in, but now Carolina is mentioned a lot and that just screams Demidov, at least to me. Having said that, it’s hard to see the Hurricanes doing that without making some reassurance on who will be there at 4th. Wouldn’t doubt if they either made a move for three as well or looped us into that trade to just guarantee we don’t take their guy.
 

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I think a lot of fans are massively ignoring the significant risk factors with Demidov. There's a reason he's projected to drop and it isn't because all these front offices are dumber than the average fan. It also isn't because he's definitely worse than options who will be picked over him. It's because he carries a lot of risk for multiple reasons.
heard all the same shit about Michkov last year and he's gonna be on Philly's starting roster come September and Michkov's concerns where supposedly WAYYYY bigger, longer contract, undersized, dead dad, etc. etc.
 

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heard all the same shit about Michkov last year and he's gonna be on Philly's starting roster come September and Michkov's concerns where supposedly WAYYYY bigger, longer contract, undersized, dead dad, etc. etc.
Nobody wants to lose their job because they made a risky pick in the top five. Your job isn't on the line if you're wrong about Demidov. When you can draft someone who is also elite but without the risk factors, you do it and you don't lose sleep over it.
 

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Nobody wants to lose their job because they made a risky pick in the top five. Your job isn't on the line if you're wrong about Demidov. When you can draft someone who is also elite but without the risk factors, you do it and you don't lose sleep over it.
I'd rather a GM that's willing to take those risks personally, and there's no way in a million years the guy is losing his job over picking the BPA because of some bullshit reason like making a risky pick in the top 5, EVERY pick this year is risky outside of Celebrini (and Demidov if you discount the bullshit "concerns")
 

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"Risk" is built into the concept of "best." Some GMs might weight risk a little higher or lower depending on their personal preference or where the team is in their rebuild cycle, but this is why ceiling and floor matter.
 
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Wonder if Buium has any room to grow taller still.

His older brothers are 6'2 and 6'3, not sure how big they were at 18 though.
 

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It’s so damn hard to find premier offensive talent in this league and we have one sitting potentially in our lap. Taking Buium would be such miss IMO.
 

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I'd rather a GM that's willing to take those risks personally, and there's no way in a million years the guy is losing his job over picking the BPA because of some bullshit reason like making a risky pick in the top 5, EVERY pick this year is risky outside of Celebrini (and Demidov if you discount the bullshit "concerns")
Literally no front office guy would agree with you. Go listen to the most a recent podcast from The Athletic. They explicitly say that's the issue. You can whine about it, but the reality is they're making the pick and you're sitting behind a screen whining about it.
 

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Wonder if Buium has any room to grow taller still.

His older brothers are 6'2 and 6'3, not sure how big they were at 18 though.

Shai was 6'3" in his draft year.

I have always wondered when teams do medicals, do they do x-rays to see if they still have growth plates?
 
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It’s so damn hard to find premier offensive talent in this league and we have one sitting potentially in our lap. Taking Buium would be such miss IMO.
Id argue its harder to find good top dmen

We have top 4 guys potentially ... maybe Mintyukov is top pairing upside, but Buium gives us a potential Fox/Makar type game changer on the back end.

We have some premier offensive talent in zegras/carlsson and depending on how you define it potentially mctavish/gauthier. You can also trade for that talent much easier.
 

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That is exactly what buium is though, just on defense.
He's a future #1 two way defenseman who can play any situation and people are hung up over the guy who likely will fall outside the top 5 and isn't even in the KHL currently.
 
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Sometimes the players will bring them. Hutson and Reinbacher did. Sorry if I'm intruding, was wondering how people felt about Buium, who's one of my favorite players of this draft.
Eh lol prob a debate

We have our SIZE MATTERS fans,
we have fans that thing we should target offensive talent
We have fans that thing we should target to fill needs now

I think im cool with any of Buium, Levshunov, Demidov, Lindstrom or Sennecke personally.

I love Buium upside and my biggest reason for not wanting him is were pretty loaded on the left side... but if you think hes good and has potential top pairing upside you take him and dont think twice about it. Worst case is you Move guys like Lacombe/Zellweger at some point when your closer to contending.

Having Mintyukov + Buium on the left side for the next 10+ years is a pretty good scenario for us.

To add to that thought process

we have a lot of fans here that think they know what PV is trying to do, and prob discredited Buiums talent a lot leading up to the draft strictly due to size.
 

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I do wonder if we take Buium if it is an indication that Verbeek feels confident he will be able to land a top-four Right shot Defensemen in Free Agency (and a top six winger..)
 
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Andrei79

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Eh lol prob a debate

We have our SIZE MATTERS fans,
we have fans that thing we should target offensive talent
We have fans that thing we should target to fill needs now

I think im cool with any of Buium, Levshunov, Demidov, Lindstrom or Sennecke personally.

I love Buium upside and my biggest reason for not wanting him is were pretty loaded on the left side... but if you think hes good and has potential top pairing upside you take him and dont think twice about it. Worst case is you Move guys like Lacombe/Zellweger at some point when your closer to contending.

Having Mintyukov + Buium on the left side for the next 10+ years is a pretty good scenario for us.

To add to that thought process

we have a lot of fans here that think they know what PV is trying to do, and prob discredited Buiums talent a lot leading up to the draft strictly due to size.

I'm a big fan of Buiums talent, but far from a scout. I'm also a big fan of Silayev, which was another player rumored to Anaheim. I think in both cases your team would be adding even more depth to an already stacked and varied U25 roster.
 
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He's a future #1 two way defenseman who can play any situation and people are hung up over the guy who likely will fall outside the top 5 and isn't even in the KHL currently.
I do love the thought of demidov and hope he succeeds.
 

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