Post-Game Talk: Don't you BORGET about me

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  • Chris Kreider

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • Mika ZibaneBORG

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • Reilly Smith

    Votes: 17 22.7%
  • Artem Panarin

    Votes: 7 9.3%
  • Vin Trocheck

    Votes: 34 45.3%
  • Alexi LaFerdie

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • Rick Cuylle

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Filip Chytil

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Adam Edstrom

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sam Carsick

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Brett Berard

    Votes: 2 2.7%
  • Matt Rempe

    Votes: 31 41.3%
  • Adam Fox

    Votes: 8 10.7%
  • Ryan Lindgren

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • Will BORGEN

    Votes: 21 28.0%
  • Braden Schneider

    Votes: 2 2.7%
  • Urho Vaakanainen

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chaz Ruhweeble

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Igor Shesterkin

    Votes: 62 82.7%

  • Total voters
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NickyFotiu

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Well then they need to stick Rempe in Hartford until he figures it out, and find another hulkish goon to help everyone feel safe. Because Rempe obviously has something to bring to the table but it doesn't help him or the team if he keeps taking major penalties and if he's suspended more than he's in the lineup.

Probably not politically correct but as a former player that bull in a China shop who may hurt you factor probably helps the team. I used to hate playing against guys that could not stop well. Every time a guy that could not stop was in the game I knew it and I was on the look out not to get in their way. I did not mind playing against great players or even tough guys but it was the guy that you just did not know what he was going to smash in to (on purpose or accidentally) that was a pain in the neck to play against. Way worse to play against a dangerous guy than a typical "goon"
 

nyr2k2

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Probably not politically correct but as a former player that bull in a China shop who may hurt you factor probably helps the team. I used to hate playing against guys that could not stop well. Every time a guy that could not stop was in the game I knew it and I was on the look out not to get in their way. I did not mind playing against great players or even tough guys but it was the guy that you just did not know what he was going to smash in to (on purpose or accidentally) that was a pain in the neck to play against. Way worse to play against a dangerous guy than a typical "goon"
I'm on board with this, but it's a different NHL and they're going to keep kicking him out and suspending him. He has to change something before they can count on playing him regularly. He's now going to have missed like 8-10 games while having appeared in 22. And if he keeps it up the suspension length will grow.
 

egelband

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Not a bad effort at ES.

The other shit is going to look lopsided when the other team was on the PP for 1/3 of the game.

Don’t buy a turn around but it’s a good effort against a tough team.

Thank you. Was thinking I'd like to see the ES numbers but dont know how to get them.
 

kovazub94

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In the AHL, it was a clean hit.

Seriously, because i didn't see how he played in Hartford but I didn't hear anything about late hits in Hartford the whole time there. Is he playing differently up here? Does it have something to do with trying to impress? Is it the pace that's messing his timing? Did he do the same things in Hartford that weren't called?
This is what bothers me. It’s not like he hasn’t played this whole time between his NHL games appearances - he should have been learning how to reel it in these unnecessary dangerous hits that gets him thrown out of game. He was going to have a plus game by giving the good guys three PP opportunities, but instead we’re discussing this…
 

kovazub94

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literally had a career best game where they won by 1.

This doesn’t mean that other people
Didn’t play well, but he’s the reason they won.
I’m not taking away anything from Shesterkin but in prior games Rangers couldn’t generate even 2 goals (or enough scoring chances for that to happen). The looked a lot more dynamic offensively - pretty noticeable.
 
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bleedblue94

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If the refs called the high stick on smith, the boarding on berard, or the miscellaneous head shot on borgen near the end, maybe it’s not so lopsided tho. I’m going with this was a clusterf*** and the boys dug down and did what they had to win. If they can build on some luck and grit here, I’m happy. If not, yeah, I throw up my hands.
There was a different energy but it was the same type of win we have seen for years and nothing actually different. They got destroyed on the rush, they couldn't cover players on the rush, they had constant breakdowns in their own end. That's my issue. It's the same type of game they have won for years with goaltending covering for all the issues 5v5. No actual change.
 

bleedblue94

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Is there literally nothing this team can do that we say anything positive about them for a day or two?
They can play better and stop repeating the crap that we have watched for years. They were abused on the rush and had constant d zone coverage breakdowns. They had some push back for a change but we saw very much the same team we have seen for years that needed elite goaltending to win a tight game. A lot of us will start being positive once the players start defending to an NHL level and maintaining a work ethic that leads to proper defensive effort.

There is also just the deviled feelings to this core and what's happened the past 6-8 months and where we are. It was all avoidable. Not everyone wants to just pretend that things are good. Even in this shit storm they won 3 other games but none of those seemed to matter to others either. Now suddenly we should have pompoms bc the "overrated Igor" bailed them out again and we should take it easy on the other players? So soft...
 

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In general they were outplayed, again. Their goalie won them a game, again.

So you agreed with me, thanks.
I guess my reply was so nice you answered it twice lol

My point was that it's possible to agree while also have the nuanced opinion that it was ALSO a step in the right direction instead of just being only negative about the game.
 
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nsvoyageurs

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Maybe for once this board decided not to be miserable after a win.
I was referring to the team, not this board. Lol

There hasn't been a lot to be not miserable about after games. Good that they won last night, but if they think all their issues are solved, they're in for a rude awakening. Having to rely on your goalie every game is unsustainable in the long run.
 

zlev

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I guess my reply was so nice you answered it twice lol

My point was that it's possible to agree while also have the nuanced opinion that it was ALSO a step in the right direction instead of just being only negative about the game.

yeah it was as even at 5v5 as a game has been for like a month, against a really good team. Igor didn't have to make too many big saves at 5v5, they were mostly all on the PK. a lot of the penalties were stupid, too, not taken because they were being outplayed. Lindgren took a dumb penalty, there was a too many men call, Kreider had a faceoff violation and of course Rempes major.
 

bleedblue94

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I guess my reply was so nice you answered it twice lol

My point was that it's possible to agree while also have the nuanced opinion that it was ALSO a step in the right direction instead of just being only negative about the game.
You posted two things that basically said the same thing and I replied to each one.

My thing is that the team was already not good and flawed before this snowballed. The snowballed just ripped the scab off the wound to show you how badly it needs a doctor. Instead of getting the doctor the scab is coming back.

You said it's a step in the right direction but I disagree, it's a step back to the years long status quo. If that's what you're good with then that's fine. Some people are happy with good regular seasons, a couple playoff runs and then reality smashing them in the face when they actually play a series against a cup contender. I want to see the team take steps to becoming a legit contender instead of what they have been for the last few years.

We have different views of the goal and that is fine. I feel like wins like last night are tying a bow on a turd. I'm not excited about a turd no matter how much you dress it up...
 
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