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I 100% believe this is a true story.

I love Berube's intensity. I love his bench demeanor. At this point, I'd be shocked if Armstrong hired someone else as head coach for next year. I don't know how you could justify it. If you hire someone and the team performance regresses a bit, you look like you picked an inferior coach.

Also, I've been waiting for 46 years to punch Roenick.
 

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Oldie, but a goodie



I would take the current Blues coaches in a street fight over any other staff.



Another one of my favorites in this brawl that was kicked off by Berube running Giguere at the end of a game:

My favorite part is Dave Lowry intentionally flipping the puck over the boards with like 10 seconds left at 19:15 of the video. He did it specifically so that Berube could get out of the penalty box and get a share of the action before the game ended.
 

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Interesting that a lot of Leafs fans seem to be pretty unhappy with Mike Babcock. He was also voted 3rd when asked “which coach would you least like to play for?” in this year’s player poll. (Hitchcock was 2nd)

I remember a lot here wanted him. And I understand why. But he’s not worth that money. I would say Quenneville might be but even that is questionable.
 
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Interesting that a lot of Leafs fans seem to be pretty unhappy with Mike Babcock. He was also voted 3rd when asked “which coach would you least like to play for?” in this year’s player poll. (Hitchcock was 2nd)

I remember a lot here wanted him. And I understand why. But he’s not worth that money. I would say Quenneville might be but even that is questionable.
Seems as if those types of coaches are dying out. Their mindset on how the game is and should be played is just outdated. I think with teams giving these newer coaches the reigns is the new go-to. Sort of similar to the goalie situations this year and how teams are giving these rookie goalies more games than normal, only to find out they're not as bad as they thought.
 

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Berube did a heck of a job here. Blues got an in season coaching hire that’s a success and new found hot rookie goalie. Blues should ride this wave but instead we opt for Del Zotto. Team has 9 goals in last 6 games.
 
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Seems as if those types of coaches are dying out. Their mindset on how the game is and should be played is just outdated. I think with teams giving these newer coaches the reigns is the new go-to. Sort of similar to the goalie situations this year and how teams are giving these rookie goalies more games than normal, only to find out they're not as bad as they thought.

A lot cheaper too lol

6 million...give me a break
 

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Yes, Q won Stanley Cups in Chicago, but I cannot get over the terribly boring hockey that he coached when he was here and lack of playoff success (yes, still can't forget that terrible loss to the Sharks after winning the Presidents Trophy). I remember hating him as the Blues coach during that time. His experience winning cups could not stop the Hawks recent spiral so I will cast my vote for Berube over Q at this time. Berube has played in SCF so I think he still has some credibility w/r to what it takes to get there and the respect of the players.
 

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Yes, Q won Stanley Cups in Chicago, but I cannot get over the terribly boring hockey that he coached when he was here and lack of playoff success (yes, still can't forget that terrible loss to the Sharks after winning the Presidents Trophy). I remember hating him as the Blues coach during that time. His experience winning cups could not stop the Hawks recent spiral so I will cast my vote for Berube over Q at this time. Berube has played in SCF so I think he still has some credibility w/r to what it takes to get there and the respect of the players.
Am I reading this correctly? You'd take Berube over Q based on Q's inability to coach a garbage team to a winning record over the course of a month? I don't care if a coach has 10 cups or 0 cups, you can't expect that bad of a team to play winning hockey. Without Kane they are competing for last in the league.
 

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Am I reading this correctly? You'd take Berube over Q based on Q's inability to coach a garbage team to a winning record over the course of a month? I don't care if a coach has 10 cups or 0 cups, you can't expect that bad of a team to play winning hockey. Without Kane they are competing for last in the league.

The fact that even with Kane and his 20 game point streak of 17G-26A-43P helped the Hawks win 10 straight and the Hawks still only sit 25th in the league is mind numbing...

The Hawks are absolutely godawful right now, they become seriously cringe worthy if he is injured for a stretch of time.

As for Q's inability to coach a aging team carrying a number of overpaid underperforming players... I'm not sure any coach can make that roster play 0.500 hockey over the course of a season. They need more than Toews, Kane and Debrincat. Gustafsson has been having a career year but they need better performances from their backend. @hullderko
 

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Am I reading this correctly? You'd take Berube over Q based on Q's inability to coach a garbage team to a winning record over the course of a month? I don't care if a coach has 10 cups or 0 cups, you can't expect that bad of a team to play winning hockey. Without Kane they are competing for last in the league.

The reason to not pick Q is that he did nothing in the playoffs in STL or COL when he didn't have the best team in the West.

Winning 3 Cups is an amazing feat but he quite clearly had one of the top 2 teams in the West during that entire run. It was either CHI or LA.

Quenneville's time in STL was the exact same experience that we had with Hitchcock. One deep playoff run and a whole bunch of 1st/2nd round exits.
 

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Yep, I associate him with that miserable 1st round loss when the Blues were the best regular season team in the league more than I associate him with 3 Stanley Cups that he won in a different city.
 

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I feel like the most important quality to evaluate in the next permanent head coach is what they will do with the current and future roster, not what they have accomplished in the past. Assuming we have an identity that Army can articulate, the next head coach should be the guy who Army feels can best develop and implement a system that compliments that identity. A guy like Q may be better equipped depending on Army’s vision, but it is also possible that he feels Berube is a better fit.

Keeping Berube and building a team and an identity around his strengths should be really far down on the list of options of how we move forward if it is on the list at all. How we finish this season, barring a SCF appearance, shouldn’t really factor into the decision if it is a reflection of Berube getting the team to play better and play for each other, as opposed to him building and executing a system that matches Army’s vision for the identity of the team. I like what he has done so far to pull this team together, but I am still skeptical that he is the right fit if we are going to be building a roster around younger, faster players and a more up tempo style.
 

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Yes, Q won Stanley Cups in Chicago, but I cannot get over the terribly boring hockey that he coached when he was here and lack of playoff success (yes, still can't forget that terrible loss to the Sharks after winning the Presidents Trophy). I remember hating him as the Blues coach during that time. His experience winning cups could not stop the Hawks recent spiral so I will cast my vote for Berube over Q at this time. Berube has played in SCF so I think he still has some credibility w/r to what it takes to get there and the respect of the players.

Sure, it was Q's fault that Turrek let in a goal from center ice and it was also Q's fault that a Dman literally threw the puck into our net. See how dumb that sounds?
 

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Letting Q go was a mistake. He was great coach here. That doesn’t mean we should shiv Berube for him. Chief has done fantastic job this year. If that continues into playoffs the job should and likely will be his.
 
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I, too, think we should judge Q based on what he did before the lockout. The game definitely hasn't evolved from that time, and nor has coach Q. His coaching style and success, or lack there of, from 15+ years ago should have priority over how we judge him as opposed to the last 10 years. He was lucky to be behind the bench for the Blackhawks dynasty of the 2010s. I'd rather have the guy who's been head coach for roughly 2 and a half years, never been past the first round, and is currently our head coach despite not even being hired for that purpose. More stock should be held in what Berube has done these past ~50 games as opposed to what Q has done the last 10+ years.
 

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