Prospect Info: Donovan Sebrango

[SquidNasty]

I’d be shocked if this dude finishes his career with over 25 NHL games

 

[lomekian]

Was hoping a wings fan would stop by and give some info. Twitter videos of this guy are amazing.

LIkeable player. Covid meant he moved up to the AHL too early. Looked good (particularly for his age) in his first stint. Lost confidence a bit since then, in part because GR had influx of potentially higher end LD pieces who were drafted higher, projected to be better and more polished. By rights should have stayed as a f/t AHL guy working his way towards bottom pair NHL status, but was bumped down by 1st and 2nd round guys (mostly older from Europe).

If he can re-find his confidence I think he could become an every day bottom pair D. Has a little sandpaper without being an idiot. Probably worth slightly more than the 4th round pick in terms of value in this trade.

 

[JD1]

I don't know anything about the guy or how he ended up in the ECHL, but typically a guy that played u18 and u20 for Canada is a guy with a potential future. Hopefully we can get him turned around in Belleville

 

[GCK]

Nice to see how many posters have been following Grand Rapids. Didn’t realize we had so many AHL fans.

 

[Micklebot]

Does he actually land a single punch in this fight?

 

[BrawlFan]

If nobody has bothered please do check out this guys videos on Twitter. He annihilates guys with open ice hits. I understand the return was fleece by Yzerman. But it’s done now. And this is not a bad prospect.

Do you know how hard it is to find a feisty D who likes to hit and will fight? These guys, even bottom pairing guys, are worth more to a team that drafts them. Short shelf life. Value really is in the ELC plus bridge.

This is your new Boro. And Boro was amazing here in Ottawa as your #6. He should be motivated being so close to home. And he knows that we would love a local boy on the team so he will be given a serious look.

I’m guessing his weakness is skating. I think he will push for a spot next year. Maybe call up.

He has a great month of March and April in the AHL and ECHL. Tons of hits.

 

[Micklebot]

If nobody has bothered please do check out this guys videos on Twitter. He annihilates guys with open ice hits. I understand the return was fleece by Yzerman. But it’s done now. And this is not a bad prospect.

Do you know how hard it is to find a feisty D who likes to hit and will fight? These guys, even bottom pairing guys, are worth more to a team that drafts them. Short shelf life. Value really is in the ELC plus bridge.

This is your new Boro. And Boro was amazing here in Ottawa as your #6. He should be motivated being so close to home. And he knows that we would love a local boy on the team so he will be given a serious look.

I’m guessing his weakness is skating. I think he will push for a spot next year. Maybe call up.

He has a great month of March and April in the AHL and ECHL. Tons of hits.

I don't see him ever being a full time part of our roster with Chabot, Chychruk, Sanderson, and Kleven ahead on the depth chart. I guess we can always play someone on their off side (we almost certainly will) but it's still a big hill to climb for him to make the roster imo since we'd need two guys to do that to get him on the roster, it's not that he's bad, but because the depth ahead of him is significant.

Maybe he's a good callup option, idk.

 

[Good in Osgoode]

If you look at this scouting report; skating is a strength, along with passing and decision making.

Looks like a very solid 2-way D-man with upside to me:

Donovan Sebrango - 2020 NHL Draft Prospect Profile - The Hockey Writers NHL Entry Draft Latest News, Analysis & More

We profile Kitchener Rangers' defenseman Donovan Sebrango. Learn why he could be one of the more underrated draft-eligible players in the OHL.

thehockeywriters.com

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

There's some value in having good blueliners in Belleville. Doesn't sound like he's star material for the AHL, but if he's at least solid, it helps Soogard.

 

[BrawlFan]

You guys are underrating him here. The wings have a ton of higher picks with higher ceiling that sebrango in their AHL team.

This guy isn’t going to be a top 4 dman. Well not likely. He’s the guy you want on your team but don’t want your team to overpay for. He’s mean.

This is a legit prospect IMO. Kleven has a chance to be a 3-5 Dman. This guy is likely a 5-7 Dman but both are mean.

How can anyone write him off? He’s two years younger than JBD. You know… the guy who is just about to make it this year…. Hell Brock Faber is from the same draft and just played two games last year and he’s touted as good as a 1st round pick.

Don’t sleep on this guy.

 

[BondraTime]

You guys are underrating him here. The wings have a ton of higher picks with higher ceiling that sebrango in their AHL team.

This guy isn’t going to be a top 4 dman. Well not likely. He’s the guy you want on your team but don’t want your team to overpay for. He’s mean.

This is a legit prospect IMO. Kleven has a chance to be a 3-5 Dman. This guy is likely a 5-7 Dman but both are mean.

How can anyone write him off? He’s two years younger than JBD. You know… the guy who is just about to make it this year…. Hell Brock Faber is from the same draft and just played two games last year and he’s touted as good as a 1st round pick.

Don’t sleep on this guy.

Well, yeah...what does that have to do with anything?

 

[BrawlFan]

Well, yeah...what does that have to do with anything?

A comparable draftee for our boy.

3 years of development for both players and faber has only played two games in the NHL to date. It isn’t like he’s cemented himself as a legit prospect either. Do we remember Rundblad? The nhl is the nhl.

So everyone is writing him off but he played in the AHL as a 19 year old. Very very few players have done that. JBD took 2 years in college before coming over. And he spent the following 2 years in the A.

So if we compare him to another mid round D taken in the same draft year we can see that he can still be a solid prospect.

The wings have D prospects from several drafts all in GR right now. Do you really think they’re prioritizing a bottom pair DMan in their development? They’re probably just going to find some bruiser and overpay since they’ll be swimming in ELC money savings.

This guy will be a giant f***ing asshole to play against. I can feel it. He will be the Nick Paul of this trade as Paul was to Spezz’s

 

[BondraTime]

A comparable draftee for our boy.

3 years of development for both players and faber has only played two games in the NHL to date. It isn’t like he’s demented himself as a legit prospect either. Do we remember Rundblad? The nhl is the nhl.

So everyone is writing him off but he played in the AHL as a 19 year old. Very very few players have done that. JBD took 2 years in college before coming over. And he spent the following 2 years in the A.

So if we compare him to another mid round D taken in the same draft year we can see that he can still be a solid prospect.

The wings have D prospects from several drafts all in GR right now. Do you really think they’re prioritizing a bottom pair DMan in their development? They’re probably just going to find some bruiser and overpay since they’ll be swimming in ELC money savings.

This guy will be a giant f***ing asshole to play against. I can feel it. He will be the Nick Paul of this trade as Paul was to Spezz’s

But they aren't comparable. They are from the same draft, and the same age, that's essentially it.

Lots of players, actually, the vast majority of OHL players from that draft, spent the season in the AHL at 18 and 19.

Guys are evaluated on their play, and skillsets, not their draft year and seasons since the draft. Faber is touted as that because of his play, Sebrango isn't because he's shown nothing like Faber thus far.

 

[Micklebot]

You guys are underrating him here. The wings have a ton of higher picks with higher ceiling that sebrango in their AHL team.

This guy isn’t going to be a top 4 dman. Well not likely. He’s the guy you want on your team but don’t want your team to overpay for. He’s mean.

This is a legit prospect IMO. Kleven has a chance to be a 3-5 Dman. This guy is likely a 5-7 Dman but both are mean.

How can anyone write him off? He’s two years younger than JBD. You know… the guy who is just about to make it this year…. Hell Brock Faber is from the same draft and just played two games last year and he’s touted as good as a 1st round pick.

Don’t sleep on this guy.

I think the issue is less about him and more about where he fits in. Where do you see him fitting in anytime soon? He's clearly behind 4 of our LHD (5 if you count Brannstrom who I'm already counting out as a casualty of numbers). On the right side Zub is the only sure thing though one of our LD likely slide over, but then you have JBD and Thomson as guys that will get a look ahead of him.

Maybe he can be another Boro, I just don't see how it happens here. If he were a RHD, I think there'd be more opportunity for him. Maybe he can play the Right side, idk.

 

[SpezDispenser]

 

[BrawlFan]

But they aren't comparable. They are from the same draft, and the same age, that's essentially it.

Lots of players, actually, the vast majority of OHL players from that draft, spent the season in the AHL at 18 and 19.

Guys are evaluated on their play, and skillsets, not their draft year and seasons since the draft. Faber is touted as that because of his play, Sebrango isn't because he's shown nothing like Faber thus far.

Fair enough. You must admit however that defensively sound defenceman take longer to develop. My point was not that sebrango is comparable to faber. Simply saying that making a decision on sebrango is premature, defence prospects from 2020 are mostly still wildcards. You’re seeing the establishment of 18-19 draftees right now. So the 20 still has time. IMO. If you still are set on him being not a NHL prospect then that’s your call. I think you’ll change your mind.

 

[BrawlFan]

I think the issue is less about him and more about where he fits in. Where do you see him fitting in anytime soon? He's clearly behind 4 of our LHD (5 if you count Brannstrom who I'm already counting out as a casualty of numbers). On the right side Zub is the only sure thing though one of our LD likely slide over, but then you have JBD and Thomson as guys that will get a look ahead of him.

Maybe he can be another Boro, I just don't see how it happens here. If he were a RHD, I think there'd be more opportunity for him. Maybe he can play the Right side, idk.

Why can’t he play RD? He’s a 5-7 so I don’t need him taking 20 minutes a night. He can play RD on my third pair.

Injuries happen.

Our RHD are abysmal. It’s why Zub is getting paid what he is. JBD should have taken that spot by now but he hasn’t been able to. And he hasn’t done anything worth of him being good in one thing over another.

And finally, why is it ever a bad thing to have too many D prospects? Lassi turning into a bust and will essentially be given away for free. JBD is a #6 who can’t take a job away from Zaitsev. Kleven is unknown. Gunette? Dorion? Hamara? You’re telling me that Sebrango is already unequivocally worse than those three? Cmon.

He’s a SOB. Do you not love that?! Local boy. He’s playing this hard for Grand Rapids how hard will he play for his hometown team?!

 

[Icelevel]

Why can’t he play RD? He’s a 5-7 so I don’t need him taking 20 minutes a night. He can play RD on my third pair.

Injuries happen.

Our RHD are abysmal. It’s why Zub is getting paid what he is. JBD should have taken that spot by now but he hasn’t been able to. And he hasn’t done anything worth of him being good in one thing over another.

And finally, why is it ever a bad thing to have too many D prospects? Lassi turning into a bust and will essentially be given away for free. JBD is a #6 who can’t take a job away from Zaitsev. Kleven is unknown. Gunette? Dorion? Hamara? You’re telling me that Sebrango is already unequivocally worse than those three? Cmon.

He’s a SOB. Do you not love that?! Local boy. He’s playing this hard for Grand Rapids how hard will he play for his hometown team?!

So you’re saying some people are underrating him. I’m going to say it’s more like you’re way overrating him.
He’s pretty insignificant to the team right now. Don’t see him being a difference maker. Best of luck of course but really..at this point, who cares?

 

[BrawlFan]

So you’re saying some people are underrating him. I’m going to say it’s more like you’re way overrating him.
He’s pretty insignificant to the team right now. Don’t see him being a difference maker. Best of luck of course but really..at this point, who cares?

Some guys like to follow prospects. I am one of those guys. Yes he’s not gonna help this year. Maybe toward the end of next year he’s a bottom pair Dman smoking guys like Gudas in the playoffs.

 

[Icelevel]

Some guys like to follow prospects. I am one of those guys. Yes he’s not gonna help this year. Maybe toward the end of next year he’s a bottom pair Dman smoking guys like Gudas in the playoffs.

He’s a lot smaller than gudas. Little early for that comparison till he plays an nhl game.
Have to wait and see. Will know more in 2 years. It’s between him and jbd for that role maybe. Lots of dman now.

 

[BondraTime]

Some guys like to follow prospects. I am one of those guys. Yes he’s not gonna help this year. Maybe toward the end of next year he’s a bottom pair Dman smoking guys like Gudas in the playoffs.

It would be absolutely incredible progression to go from a guy who was sent down from the AHL to the ECHL in January of his 20/21 year old season (on the 2nd worst team in the AHL) to be in the NHL, in any capacity, in that time frame.

Nearly unheard of, not really any comparable instances .

 

[BrawlFan]

It would be absolutely incredible progression to go from a guy who was sent down from the AHL to the ECHL in January of his 20/21 year old season (on the 2nd worst team in the AHL) to be in the NHL, in any capacity, in that time frame.

Nearly unheard of, not really any comparable instances .

Agreed. My context is he was buried in GR with better D prospects. Again he’s not a blue chipper in any way.

I just think he is a long term investment and will be a player.

 

[Micklebot]

Why can’t he play RD? He’s a 5-7 so I don’t need him taking 20 minutes a night. He can play RD on my third pair.

Injuries happen.

Our RHD are abysmal. It’s why Zub is getting paid what he is. JBD should have taken that spot by now but he hasn’t been able to. And he hasn’t done anything worth of him being good in one thing over another.

And finally, why is it ever a bad thing to have too many D prospects? Lassi turning into a bust and will essentially be given away for free. JBD is a #6 who can’t take a job away from Zaitsev. Kleven is unknown. Gunette? Dorion? Hamara? You’re telling me that Sebrango is already unequivocally worse than those three? Cmon.

He’s a SOB. Do you not love that?! Local boy. He’s playing this hard for Grand Rapids how hard will he play for his hometown team?!

Zub's getting paid what he is because that's the market.

Has he played RD in the past? What makes you think that a guy you admit is likely a 5-7 D can also be that on his off-side?

You building a lot of Strawmen here, I never mentioned Guennet, Hamara or Donovan*, maybe he can be better than them, but I don't see a future for those guys on this team either so it's a bit of a moot point.

It takes a lot more than being an SOB to actually play at the NHL level. he's got his work cut out for him if he wants to crack our group particularly since playing his off side seems to be the only path for him to do so given we have 5 LHD ahead of him right now.

 

[Xspyrit]

uhhh he's not even RHD?

He's kind of useless in the Sens system, but should end up helping Belleville, hopefully

 

[aragorn]

Good tough kid who plays a solid defensive game & can add some offence, if he doesn't make it here he might be worth something in a package.