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I have been a Don Sweeney supporter . I have not agreed with all of his moves. The poor signings he has made on some of the D-man signings' comes to mind . I also think he has done a very creditable job putting together a respectable competitive contender this past season.

His actions this off season should go a long way determining his future, as GM of the Bruins .

Priorities: Signing Swayman

Improving the forward group . The forwards need to be better ,faster more physical better at finishing chances, strong defensively, able to rise there play to a higher level in the playoffs,. simply put more top six forwards are required . The fourth line needs to be significantly better as in more Physical and faster with the ability to chip in with some production. (I sure as hell hope he can provide a strong explanation as to why DeBrusk was not resigned if he is not)

The D : picking up a LD who can play the PK and provide some snarl is what is needed . Not a Gryz type. Reduce some some of the PK time and defensive reasonability's for#6,27and 73.

Sweeny you have cash to work with make good decisions
 
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I have been a Don Sweeney supporter . I have not agreed with all of his moves. The poor signings he has made on some of the D-man signings' comes to mind . I also think he has done a very creditable job putting together a respectable competitive contender this past season.His actions this off season should go a long way determining his future, as GM of the Bruins .Priorities: Signing Swayman
Improving the forward group . The forwards need to be better ,faster more physical better at finishing chances, strong defensively, able to rise there play to a higher level in the playoffs,. simply put more top six forwards are required . The fourth line needs to be significantly better as in more Physical and faster with the ability to chip in with some production. (I sure as hell hope he can provide a strong explanation as to why DeBrusk was not resigned if he is not)

The D : picking up a LD who can play the PK and provide some snarl is what is needed . Not a Gryz type. Reduce some some of the PK time and defensive reasonability's for#6,27and 73.

Sweeny you have cash to work with make good decisions

Sounds easy enough.
 
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Don Sweeney reminds me of Danny Ainge. Not so much in their style (Danny liked to hoard picks while Don sees them as disposable) but both always put together a competitive roster but it never has the “it” factor.

Ainge did his all-in move that netted him a championship while Sweeney did his which resulted in a first round exit (last year). But neither rosters were ever built for longterm success

Brad Stevens comes in and focuses on the young core and properly builds around them with complimentary pieces. Celtics are going to be competing for the title for the next 5+ years (barring injury)

Bruins need a Stevens. Like Ainge, Sweeney is good but just not great. Ainge is arguably better than Sweeney, but the point neither seem to know how to properly build an amazing roster. Both can build solid teams that vary by year, but Stevens is a roster builder. Bruins need that bad.

But they won’t get it. Sweeney is back and he’s going to waste the cap space on mediocre talent locked in for 4+ years
 

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Florida wins this wouldn’t surprise me to see Paul Maurice to offer Donny a day with the Cup for preparing the Panthers.

Maurice multiple times has alluded to the Bruins two series preparing his team for the mindset they can beat anyone and stand up to physicality

Also what injustice ?



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Florida wins this wouldn’t surprise me to see Paul Maurice to offer Donny a day with the Cup for preparing the Panthers.

Maurice multiple times has alluded to the Bruins two series preparing his team for the mindset they can beat anyone and stand up to physicality

Also what injustice ?



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I see what you are doing here. Baiting the Donny haters (including myself). :)

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Florida wins this wouldn’t surprise me to see Paul Maurice to offer Donny a day with the Cup for preparing the Panthers.

Maurice multiple times has alluded to the Bruins two series preparing his team for the mindset they can beat anyone and stand up to physicality

Also what injustice ?



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Can we please built a statue for Donald Clarke Sweeney?

I want you to give the opening eulogy.

I will sponsor an inscription: "One of the most overrated GMs in the league"

He is a GM who spends multiple first rounders spend to fix his mistakes. Nobody is perfect and mistakes happen but Sweeney has made so many that he is no more than an average GM. Yes, the Bruins overachieved this year and made the playoffs, but that was largely because of Pastrnak and the goalies. Sweeney hasn't won anything since 2015. It's been clear for years that Bergeron and Krejci's careers were coming to an end and what did Sweeney do? Nothing. Oh no he did, center by commitee was the motto. Krejci didn't have a suitable right winger for how many years? what did Sweeney do? Nothing. Oh no he did, got Kase with his concussion issues. I could go on. Backes, Moore, Reilly, Beleskey. I'm giving him the 2015 draft, new to the job. Everyone can have their opinion but please don't act like we are stupid and ignorant because we don't recognize Don Sweeney's genius. We just disagree and don't like his work and there are plenty of f***ing reasons why.

Compare what Bill Zito did in four years in Florida and where his team is right now. This is a great GM.
 

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Don Sweeney reminds me of Danny Ainge. Not so much in their style (Danny liked to hoard picks while Don sees them as disposable) but both always put together a competitive roster but it never has the “it” factor.

Ainge did his all-in move that netted him a championship while Sweeney did his which resulted in a first round exit (last year). But neither rosters were ever built for longterm success

Brad Stevens comes in and focuses on the young core and properly builds around them with complimentary pieces. Celtics are going to be competing for the title for the next 5+ years (barring injury)

Bruins need a Stevens. Like Ainge, Sweeney is good but just not great. Ainge is arguably better than Sweeney, but the point neither seem to know how to properly build an amazing roster. Both can build solid teams that vary by year, but Stevens is a roster builder. Bruins need that bad.

But they won’t get it. Sweeney is back and he’s going to waste the cap space on mediocre talent locked in for 4+ years
Jim Nill and Bill Zito are those guys. Id like to see what Waddell does outside of that circus, his drafting has been excellent.

Largely though most GMs are overrated and are "luck" merchants, some deals work and others dont.
 

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Can we please built a statue for Donald Clarke Sweeney?

I want you to give the opening eulogy.

I will sponsor an inscription: "One of the most overrated GMs in the league"


Compare what Bill Zito did in four years in Florida and where his team is right now. This is a great GM.

Great argument.

Take the best GM there is today and compare Sweeney to him.

You sure can win a lot of arguments with that kind of strategy.
 

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Florida wins this wouldn’t surprise me to see Paul Maurice to offer Donny a day with the Cup for preparing the Panthers.

Maurice multiple times has alluded to the Bruins two series preparing his team for the mindset they can beat anyone and stand up to physicality

Also what injustice ?



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Its the Holy Grail U only touch it if you've earned the right! (won It)
 

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Great argument.

Take the best GM there is today and compare Sweeney to him.

You sure can win a lot of arguments with that kind of strategy.

I wouldn´t say he is the best. It´s about the moves he made to turn around the Florida Panthers. He surely did some mistakes as well but most of his moves were successful and lead to team being were they are right now. Aren´t Ekblad, Bobrovsky and Barkov the only players left that were on the team before he took over? To bring two examples. Using two pending UFAs in getting Tkachuk was a masterpiece. The Montour for a third rounder trade was also a great trade. Ironically Sweeney also traded a third rounder on the same day for great Mike Reilly.

When Sweeney took over the Bruins had Bergeron, Marchand, Rask, Krejci, Krug in their prime, Hamilton and Reilly Smith coming into his own, Chara still servicable, Lucic and Eriksson exiting their prime but as a valueable trade pieces and Pastrnak already drafted. Chiarelli was fired after barely missing the playoffs and two years removed of being in the Stanley Cup Final. What probably broke his back was he sucked horribly at drafting and if the rumors are true not getting along with Neely. Still the team he left had a great core. What did Sweeney manage with this team? How did he turned around? What did he do with the core? They reached the final in 2019 but advanced not further than the second around the other times. What justifies that he hasn't been fired yet, but Chiarelli has been after he turned the entire team around, four years after winning the Cup and two years after his team was in the final? I can´t see it.
 

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Can we please built a statue for Donald Clarke Sweeney?

I want you to give the opening eulogy.

I will sponsor an inscription: "One of the most overrated GMs in the league"

He is a GM who spends multiple first rounders spend to fix his mistakes. Nobody is perfect and mistakes happen but Sweeney has made so many that he is no more than an average GM. Yes, the Bruins overachieved this year and made the playoffs, but that was largely because of Pastrnak and the goalies. Sweeney hasn't won anything since 2015. It's been clear for years that Bergeron and Krejci's careers were coming to an end and what did Sweeney do? Nothing. Oh no he did, center by commitee was the motto. Krejci didn't have a suitable right winger for how many years? what did Sweeney do? Nothing. Oh no he did, got Kase with his concussion issues. I could go on. Backes, Moore, Reilly, Beleskey. I'm giving him the 2015 draft, new to the job. Everyone can have their opinion but please don't act like we are stupid and ignorant because we don't recognize Don Sweeney's genius. We just disagree and don't like his work and there are plenty of f***ing reasons why.

Compare what Bill Zito did in four years in Florida and where his team is right now. This is a great GM.
Bill Zito is professionally alive today because Brad Marchand didn’t score on a breakaway

Sweenius is the intersection of Don Sweeney & Genius

No player or executive should ever touch the Cup without winning it, no one!
Its the Holy Grail U only touch it if you've earned the right! (won It)
He’s already had it

I think assistant GM for Pete Chiarelli is enough said

Thank you Donny !!!!!!
 

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He’s already had it

I think assistant GM for Pete Chiarelli is enough said

Thank you Donny !!!!!!
Yes how soon we forget. lol
But I'd much rather see him touch again as a Bruin and not while riding the coat-tails of PC, it would be so much more meaningful for Donny and his legacy!
 
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to clarify chiarelli didn't draft bergeron, krejci, kessel, lucic, marchand, didn't trade for rask and didn't sign big z. i'd argue that he gets little credit for the 2006 draft and chara because he was technically hired at the end of may but didn't start until july.

Zito signed verhaeghe and forsling as free agents in addition to the good examples you pointed out, and i think those moves were really where he showed how good he is.
I wouldn´t say he is the best. It´s about the moves he made to turn around the Florida Panthers. He surely did some mistakes as well but most of his moves were successful and lead to team being were they are right now. Aren´t Ekblad, Bobrovsky and Barkov the only players left that were on the team before he took over? To bring two examples. Using two pending UFAs in getting Tkachuk was a masterpiece. The Montour for a third rounder trade was also a great trade. Ironically Sweeney also traded a third rounder on the same day for great Mike Reilly.

When Sweeney took over the Bruins had Bergeron, Marchand, Rask, Krejci, Krug in their prime, Hamilton and Reilly Smith coming into his own, Chara still servicable, Lucic and Eriksson exiting their prime but as a valueable trade pieces and Pastrnak already drafted. Chiarelli was fired after barely missing the playoffs and two years removed of being in the Stanley Cup Final. What probably broke his back was he sucked horribly at drafting and if the rumors are true not getting along with Neely. Still the team he left had a great core. What did Sweeney manage with this team? How did he turned around? What did he do with the core? They reached the final in 2019 but advanced not further than the second around the other times. What justifies that he hasn't been fired yet, but Chiarelli has been after he turned the entire team around, four years after winning the Cup and two years after his team was in the final? I can´t see it.
 

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to clarify chiarelli didn't draft bergeron, krejci, kessel, lucic, marchand, didn't trade for rask and didn't sign big z. i'd argue that he gets little credit for the 2006 draft and chara because he was technically hired at the end of may but didn't start until july.

Zito signed verhaeghe and forsling as free agents in addition to the good examples you pointed out, and i think those moves were really where he showed how good he is.
I thought forsling was a waiver wire pick up
 

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I think Sweeney has been fine. His early mistakes as GM (Beleskey, Backes, Senyshyn) likely cost them the 2019 Cup, but the last couple years I've liked what he's done. The Bruins have been far more competitive than I ever would have expected them to be 4-5 years ago.
 
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No, but he did get him on waivers? I wonder how many GM's had a crack at him before Florida took him
not sure i guess it could be looked up. i have wondered about Waddells decision to waive him. i get that the canes were stacked on D at the time but with only 3 of their 6 dmen from last season signed to a contract they sure could use him despite their excellent prospect pool on defense.
 
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Zito did a great job but as we all know you have to have good fortune and he’s got it
 

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Zito did a great job but as we all know you have to have good fortune and he’s got it
Dave Taylor once said when Zito was playing at Yale, “he plays like a pit bull on a bone”. I think it’s fair to say his blue print came from within on assembling this team he built. Good fortune along the way as well but he new exactly what kind of players he wanted.
 

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Can we please built a statue for Donald Clarke Sweeney?

I want you to give the opening eulogy.

I will sponsor an inscription: "One of the most overrated GMs in the league"

He is a GM who spends multiple first rounders spend to fix his mistakes. Nobody is perfect and mistakes happen but Sweeney has made so many that he is no more than an average GM. Yes, the Bruins overachieved this year and made the playoffs, but that was largely because of Pastrnak and the goalies. Sweeney hasn't won anything since 2015. It's been clear for years that Bergeron and Krejci's careers were coming to an end and what did Sweeney do? Nothing. Oh no he did, center by commitee was the motto. Krejci didn't have a suitable right winger for how many years? what did Sweeney do? Nothing. Oh no he did, got Kase with his concussion issues. I could go on. Backes, Moore, Reilly, Beleskey. I'm giving him the 2015 draft, new to the job. Everyone can have their opinion but please don't act like we are stupid and ignorant because we don't recognize Don Sweeney's genius. We just disagree and don't like his work and there are plenty of f***ing reasons why.

Compare what Bill Zito did in four years in Florida and where his team is right now. This is a great GM.
Yup.
in 2015 he inherited
- 2 HoFs/B's greats Z and Bergie (in their prime)
- 2 borderline HoFs Marchand and Rask (in their prime)
- 1 Great B Krejci (in his prime)
- 1 rookie future HoF Pasta
- 3 first round picks in a deep draft
Since then, they've been 0 for Stanley Cups and being in a division with MTL, BUF, OTT and DET. They did run into a juggernaut in TB. That's bad timing.

Oh and people forget about last year. Yes they were great. Only because Bergeron and Krecji showed up on his front step, wrapped in bows. In any other situation, he wouldn't have been able to sign them and last years team would look like this years team.

I do give him credit for Ullmark signing, Going all in last year, Carlo and Swayman picks. Maybe/possibly Lohrei and Potrois. McAvoy was a layup.
 

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