Does Tampa have the best Pro Scouting Department?

[Perfect_Drug]

Back when Chris Pronger played in Edmonton, he made a tweener scrub look like a legitimate #2 stud Dman in Marc Andre Bergeron.

Elite players can make middling talent look exceptional.

Pat Maroon scored 27 goals on McDavids wing.
Kailer Yamamoto scored 20 goals on Draisaitls wing.


The reason I bring this up, is that a lot of "pro scouting moves" look like brilliant scouting, but ultimately it likely has to do with being able to play with higher-end talent.

Acquiring Bogosian, or Shattenkirk aren't shrewd scouting moves. They were put in a depth position and somewhat sheltered due to having a much better partner that can carry them.

Getting them to Play with Sergachev on a 3rd pairing isn't a shrewd scouting move.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

JJ Moser is the other sneaky good pickup from this offseason. But I don’t think we’re the best, as others have pointed out there are counter-examples (Jeannot, Sheary).

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Bill Zito is the best pro scouting department

Good thing the Oilers pivoted to Ken Holland when he became available....

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Canes lost two Top 4 defensemen and two Top 6 forwards this offseason and everyone (justifiably) predicted them to take a major step back. Especially when they didn’t seem to replace any of the above. But the scouts identified players that would work in the system and Carolina, at least thus far, hasn’t seemed to have lost a step.

Now if only those scouts could find a healthy goalie…

It’s really not just this year though either. Nino was an awesome find years ago, Skjei, Trocheck, DeAngelo briefly, Chatfield has been an incredible find, Fast, Noesen, probably some others I'm missing.

Like the Bolts, yeah the core pieces have been home grown but both teams have done a great job of filling in the gaps through pro scouting with great finds that fit in very well.

I'd say Florida is the best in this regard though just from the star power they've gotten from other teams' "scraps." Quite a bit of their core is not home grown.

 

[Dread Clawz]

Bill Zito is the best pro scouting department

It's not just him, he has a team around him. The pro scouts, Dudley, McCabe, Jackson, Fenton, Luongo. They all do a great job.

 

[Canovin]

Winnipeg is underrated. So is Dallas

 

[Hint1k]

Winnipeg is underrated.

Winnipeg is 24th out of 32 (37% win rate in playoffs) in the last decade.

37% win rate, Carl.

They are severely overrated. Not underrated.

 

[Canovin]

Winnipeg is 24th (37%) in playoff win % in the last decade.

37% winning rate, Carl.

They are severely overrated. Not underrated.

Doesn't mean anything. You have to look at it individually. The players they have are good. Just can't put it together.

 

[Hint1k]

Doesn't mean anything. You have to look at it individually. The players they have are good. Just can't put it together.

It means everything. The criteria how something good or bad is RESULT!

 

[Canovin]

It means everything. The criteria how something good or bad is RESULT!

Winnipeg has produced a lot of NHLers thru every rounds. I believe that's the point of this thread?

 

[Hint1k]

Winnipeg has produced a lot of NHLers thru every rounds. I believe that's the point of this thread?

You got it all wrong. The result shows Winnipeg is bad. Like 24th in NHL bad. And I am not even talking about Cups or series wins. Just game wins, Carl. They are a really bad team, bottom dwellers in playoffs.

 

[benfranklin]

If were quantifying this by trades, then the Avalanche have to be up there.

 

[WarriorofTime]

It's much easier to get fits around a star-studded core. A rising tide lifts all boats.

I'd probably give Florida a nod and the flowers right now, as they won a Cup without being a very homegrown roster even though they started out fairly homegrown, but slowly and gradually upgraded their roster away from homegrown guys to player elsewhere, really showing the power of effective and active management.