Management Does Joe Sacco deserve to be officially the HC of the Bruins in 2025-2026?
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My Question in the point/counterpoint part of the debate would be:
"My right honourable friend across the isle makes some salient points, would you therefore and to wit posit, that some of the issues from this forgettable or dare say characterless season, have since been jetisoned to Minn, Col, Toronto, and Fla?"
Sweeney is correct, this is not Saccos fault, but this team needs a clean sweep in the coaching department.
LouJersey
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Just say no to Joe. He had a cup of coffee here; seasons end time to go.
TP70BruinsCup
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Nope. He’s an assistant coach not a head coach.
They need a new HC with all new assistants except Goalie Bob. The fact the PP could never get on track at all is season alone is reason enough to move them out. If it’s a retool/rebuild whatever you want to call it you need all new voices. And not a two year guy so they can promote Jay Leach. Go outside the organization and get someone new with new assistants
They need a new HC with all new assistants except Goalie Bob. The fact the PP could never get on track at all is season alone is reason enough to move them out. If it’s a retool/rebuild whatever you want to call it you need all new voices. And not a two year guy so they can promote Jay Leach. Go outside the organization and get someone new with new assistants
Nope. Time to move on. Nothing personal. Just business.
Unfortunately since N&S got the ok to blow it up it gives them into next season to survive for now.
Unfortunately since N&S got the ok to blow it up it gives them into next season to survive for now.
bobber
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You move on from Marchy moving on from Sacco is a no brainer. Move on from Sweeny also. Don't know if it's scouting or Sweeny's drafting drafting that's lousy.
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Counter Counterpoint - with so many new faces its the perfect time for a fresh voice for everyone. Its the perfect time to make a change to the system if they want to. You have guys like Pastrnak, McAvoy, Lindholm, Geekie, etc that know the current system. If Pastrnak & McAvoy are the new leadership then they are responsible for helping steady the ship and get players used to the system.
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Counter counter counterpoint- Pastrnak and McAvoy will have enough on their plate stepping into the new leadership void, expecting them to also instruct and direct all the new faces into a system that will also be new to them would be asking a whole lot and would make it even harder to pinpoint where mistakes were coming from (player,player leadership, system, or coaching).
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Reports coming out are that Sweeney offered Marchand 2 year/3 million per.
Um....low ball much.
Yet he grapples with Swayman overpaying him as much as 1.75.
Low ball a Bruins legend and leave him hanging?
Opening his wallet to a partially proven goalie?
Not too bright.
I don't know still all that much of Sacco to render judgement but one things for sure....in more than one game in January the crowd at the Garden chanted to "Fire" somebody.
And it wasn't Sacco.
Sacco inherited a crap show, that's for sure as it started this year with the Swayman talks. Sweeney dropped the ball with Marchy as it sounds like Marchy called a meeting with them last week to see what in the world is going on.
We DO need a solid coach with some pedigree to his name.
But if Sacco has to go...then Sweeney should REALLY go as well.
Um....low ball much.
Yet he grapples with Swayman overpaying him as much as 1.75.
Low ball a Bruins legend and leave him hanging?
Opening his wallet to a partially proven goalie?
Not too bright.
I don't know still all that much of Sacco to render judgement but one things for sure....in more than one game in January the crowd at the Garden chanted to "Fire" somebody.
And it wasn't Sacco.
Sacco inherited a crap show, that's for sure as it started this year with the Swayman talks. Sweeney dropped the ball with Marchy as it sounds like Marchy called a meeting with them last week to see what in the world is going on.
We DO need a solid coach with some pedigree to his name.
But if Sacco has to go...then Sweeney should REALLY go as well.
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I don't know regarding Sacco. I do know upper management has to do their due diligence. If the right coach is available they definitely need to make the change. But in the meanwhile let's consider a few things
I'll give Sacco credit for the mess he inherited. It was obvious Montgomery had checked out and it appears some of the players did too - which I think contributed to much of the lack of urgency and lack of second, third effort - too many players going through motions.
A coach can have a system, work on positioning, team structure, but if the players don't execute on the ice there isn't much that a coach can do. That falls on the players.
Now, not as an excuse, but the Bruins have stayed along the fringe if the playoffs despite not having Hampus Lindholm and Charlie McAvoy for much of the season.
The Bruins have lacked offensive forward depth having to often work three times as hard to score goals.
The biggest positive under Sacco is the emergence of Geekie, with a lot of thanks to Pastrnak coming alive, but also having somewhat stable line combinations.
Now considering what I said above, some have said the team needs a new voice ... BUT what if it's not the message but the ears hearing it that need(ed) to change. Again, on ice play and execution falls on the players.
I've watched the players body language, their demeanor, and their emotional commitment level all year - and something has been off. The biggest change I saw yesterday at the game with Bruins player personnel was - hustle.
Example: Previously, during line changes Bruins players would mosley over to the bench taking their sweet ass time. I've seen turtles crossing a road quicker than some Boston line changes this year.
During that game against Tampa I was really impressed with the execution and how quickly Boston changed a five man unit on the fly and right back into position and the action. Really, I was wondering where has that been all year. It was a thing of beauty. A small thing, but very telling.
Some might consider that a small thing. But, if players don't want to commit to the little things, they won't commit to the big things. Now, it might have been adrenaline, or new players wanting to impress, but there was a new energy with the team yesterday that has been missing all year.
I say all that because, I don't know if it's been the coaching or if certain players had simply checked out happy and comfortable collecting a paycheck. As far as coaching, I think their fate will be determined more so by team commitment, how it competes and executes, more than win/loss record to finish the season. There were no passengers yesterday, everyone was engaged.
I'll give Sacco credit for the mess he inherited. It was obvious Montgomery had checked out and it appears some of the players did too - which I think contributed to much of the lack of urgency and lack of second, third effort - too many players going through motions.
A coach can have a system, work on positioning, team structure, but if the players don't execute on the ice there isn't much that a coach can do. That falls on the players.
Now, not as an excuse, but the Bruins have stayed along the fringe if the playoffs despite not having Hampus Lindholm and Charlie McAvoy for much of the season.
The Bruins have lacked offensive forward depth having to often work three times as hard to score goals.
The biggest positive under Sacco is the emergence of Geekie, with a lot of thanks to Pastrnak coming alive, but also having somewhat stable line combinations.
Now considering what I said above, some have said the team needs a new voice ... BUT what if it's not the message but the ears hearing it that need(ed) to change. Again, on ice play and execution falls on the players.
I've watched the players body language, their demeanor, and their emotional commitment level all year - and something has been off. The biggest change I saw yesterday at the game with Bruins player personnel was - hustle.
Example: Previously, during line changes Bruins players would mosley over to the bench taking their sweet ass time. I've seen turtles crossing a road quicker than some Boston line changes this year.
During that game against Tampa I was really impressed with the execution and how quickly Boston changed a five man unit on the fly and right back into position and the action. Really, I was wondering where has that been all year. It was a thing of beauty. A small thing, but very telling.
Some might consider that a small thing. But, if players don't want to commit to the little things, they won't commit to the big things. Now, it might have been adrenaline, or new players wanting to impress, but there was a new energy with the team yesterday that has been missing all year.
I say all that because, I don't know if it's been the coaching or if certain players had simply checked out happy and comfortable collecting a paycheck. As far as coaching, I think their fate will be determined more so by team commitment, how it competes and executes, more than win/loss record to finish the season. There were no passengers yesterday, everyone was engaged.
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You have to find the best coach on the market, and there's a 99% chance that it's not Sacco.
I fully expect us to wind up with Sully one way or another
I fully expect us to wind up with Sully one way or another
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I would not. This season was a mess from the very get go. Need a clean slate and new ideas. Fair or not to Sacco.
Besides, the failure of special teams this season alone is enough for him to go for me. This team didn’t have enough to vie for a Championship, true. However, I refuse to accept that the performance of our PP and PK are accurate reflections of the roster we had.
For those who are missing Marchy and the playoffs? Look no further than our PP and PK. Just a minor improvement in either/both and we headed to playoffs with Marchy in place.
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McAvoy & Pastrnak have already been in leadership roles for this team, its not new territory. They also still have access to Brad, Bergeron, Chara and many more who can help them continue to grow as leaders when they are unsure.
What The Puck
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Absolutely not. This team cratered so hard under his watch and including as an assistant. I don't see the ability level.
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I’d be interested in hearing from the pro Sacco voters the argument for keeping Sacco. I have an opinion obviously, but I’m open to arguments.
One warning though. If the “local” factor gets raises I will absolutely roast you. And f***ing rightly so.
All other arguments I will try to consider with grace and humility.
One warning though. If the “local” factor gets raises I will absolutely roast you. And f***ing rightly so.
All other arguments I will try to consider with grace and humility.
