clefty
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Not even remotely true.
I'm pretty sure that Jordan was the subject of that rumor; I think the father said a while back that Jordan had more potential than Marc or Eric.
NOT Jared. Jared Staal is not in the same league as a prospect.
This is correct. This keeps being brought up, but it was always Jordan not Jared.
In 30 years the Staal brothers will be looked upon as the hockey family the Sutter brothers are.. All good hockey players having a part in the game many years after their retirements.
http://www.titans101.com/sutters.htm
http://www.titans101.com/sutters.htm
ktownhockey
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I scout minor midget hockey in Ontario and I can tell you that Henry Staal made a mistake and he meant Jordan Staal.
Jared is NOT a top prospect. He made the OHL this year due to family name. Not saying he wont be a player Im just saying that he isn't as far in his development as the others were at this age. good luck to him to live up to the family name, we'd all love to see it lol
Jared is NOT a top prospect. He made the OHL this year due to family name. Not saying he wont be a player Im just saying that he isn't as far in his development as the others were at this age. good luck to him to live up to the family name, we'd all love to see it lol
I guess I got them mixed up but I could've sworn in the espn article I read and I'm paraphrasing it said 'and the youngest, Jared may be the most talented' or some crap like that.
Is Jordan the most talented then?
BabyBennettov
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I have the same quote ! I remember hearing that Jared was the best but obviously it's wrong...
I also remember both Eric and Jordan claiming Jared was going to be the best during an interview during the NHL Awards show on OLN at the end of last season.
i saw it in another interview as well... they basically gave credit to their 2 on 2 games... the oldest and youngest against the middle 2... him being the youngest he had to work harder to compete
The Viking Fury
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Blind Gardien
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The big brothers might say it as a way of urging on lil' bro, various journalists might run with it as some kind of special interest story that leaves you with an OMG cliffhanger of another even better one coming... but the reality is that Jared (so far) just hasn't been considered an elite prospect the way his brothers all were. If it wasn't for his name he wouldn't have been a 1st round pick in the OHL draft.
Of course, that's not to say that he might not ultimately emerge as a similar-calibre prospect. If the Staals are notorious for anything, it seems to be an ability to step up unexpectedly, to take sudden developmental upswings when presented with new challenges. If Jared has some of those genes lurking and ready to show up in his early OHL career, then who knows, maybe what started as fluff stories or misquotes with no basis in hockey reality might actually turn out to be true. But the general consensus I hear is that he's more likely to be an average OHL player with little or no hope of playing in the NHL. Again, who knows, *if* he can manage to hold his head above water in the OHL after a couple of years he'll probably get drafted in the NHL too, on the name basis as a late round flyer, even if people still aren't seeing him as a legitimate prospect. But that's a pretty far cry from the level of prospect his brothers were at.
Still, it won't surprise me in the least if Jared Staal doesn't end up surprising the "hockey realists" who discount him as a prospect. Note that I'm saying that without having seen him play yet this year. That is, I'm saying that based on his name. And enough scouts know the crapshoot nature of the business too that they don't completely discount the name value either, even if that's all that they have to go by so far in Jared's case.
Of course, that's not to say that he might not ultimately emerge as a similar-calibre prospect. If the Staals are notorious for anything, it seems to be an ability to step up unexpectedly, to take sudden developmental upswings when presented with new challenges. If Jared has some of those genes lurking and ready to show up in his early OHL career, then who knows, maybe what started as fluff stories or misquotes with no basis in hockey reality might actually turn out to be true. But the general consensus I hear is that he's more likely to be an average OHL player with little or no hope of playing in the NHL. Again, who knows, *if* he can manage to hold his head above water in the OHL after a couple of years he'll probably get drafted in the NHL too, on the name basis as a late round flyer, even if people still aren't seeing him as a legitimate prospect. But that's a pretty far cry from the level of prospect his brothers were at.
Still, it won't surprise me in the least if Jared Staal doesn't end up surprising the "hockey realists" who discount him as a prospect. Note that I'm saying that without having seen him play yet this year. That is, I'm saying that based on his name. And enough scouts know the crapshoot nature of the business too that they don't completely discount the name value either, even if that's all that they have to go by so far in Jared's case.
Yeah, he doesn't compare at all to Erik, Mark and Jordin.
Jared is still very young ... wow im beginning to feel old. He may not be on the level of his brothers and he may never be, but there is the chance that he may suprise and become a top prospect too. He has a fairly late birthday in August as well.
i'm unable to locate my copy of the 2003 draft preview from THN, but in that there is an article on the staal brothers. with eric projected to go as the top pick it was one of the first articles to bring attention to all 4 brothers...
i have to find the issue to get the exact quote but i'm 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure that in that article it says that the youngest jared "might" be the most talented of all...
THAT is where this rumor came from. THN might have gotten it wrong, but thats were everyone got jared from...but lets also keep in mind that in june 2003, jared was only 12 years old. thinking that he had the most potential when he was 12 vs the others at 12, doesn't mean he'll have more potential when he turns 18.
i have to find the issue to get the exact quote but i'm 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure that in that article it says that the youngest jared "might" be the most talented of all...
THAT is where this rumor came from. THN might have gotten it wrong, but thats were everyone got jared from...but lets also keep in mind that in june 2003, jared was only 12 years old. thinking that he had the most potential when he was 12 vs the others at 12, doesn't mean he'll have more potential when he turns 18.
Blind Gardien
nexus of the crisis
But my impression from those who claim to follow such things was that even such a quote from THN was most likely intended basically as just a cute turn of phrase to end the story on, not actually as a meaningful insight on his actual playing ability at the time.
It's like "who knows, maybe the person to break Wayne Gretzky's records will be his son Ty!" -- it could sound good in the right context at the right moment of time (some years ago), because hey, really, who does know, -- but it's not seriously meant to imply that the writer has studied Ty Gretzky and thought he was a hockey phenom legitimately capable of breaking his father's records. It just sounds good.
Ruckus007
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But my impression from those who claim to follow such things was that even such a quote from THN was most likely intended basically as just a cute turn of phrase to end the story on, not actually as a meaningful insight on his actual playing ability at the time.
They always say the youngest "might end up being the best." Heck, such statements were made of Brent and Keith Gretzky. You're right (and I do vaguely remember that THN article), it's just a little cliffhanger to end a story on that you don't have to have any meaningful insight or research to make.
But my impression from those who claim to follow such things was that even such a quote from THN was most likely intended basically as just a cute turn of phrase to end the story on, not actually as a meaningful insight on his actual playing ability at the time.
yes i think you are exactly right...i think the comment was simply for dramatic effect about how good the 4 brothers could be since the article was comparing them to the sutters...everyone clearly knew eric and people were starting to know a bit about marc and jordan. but jared was completely unknown cause he was so young. but if you know who good eric is and someone says 'the youngest might be the best' it makes you think "wow these 4 are all gonna be superstars".
i'm willing to bet that THN never intended it to be something that anyone would remember or something discussed 3 years later as an expectation for jared.
If i had a dollar for every player that scouts and fans said "_____ have the most potential" i'd be a rich man.
Until Jared is drafted and plays a couple of seasons, you can't determine if he actually shows potential. Right now, he's just a kid having fun in a league and getting points...
Until Jared is drafted and plays a couple of seasons, you can't determine if he actually shows potential. Right now, he's just a kid having fun in a league and getting points...
Pothier
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There should be a welcome page here on HF that clearly states:
JARED STAAL HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF POTENTIAL OUT OF ALL THE STAAL BROTHERS!
Sheesh, I see this exact thread every few months.
JARED STAAL HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF POTENTIAL OUT OF ALL THE STAAL BROTHERS!
Sheesh, I see this exact thread every few months.
MsMeow
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Henry made the comment regarding Jordan, and it seems one newspaper or magazine picked it up, got it wrong, and everyone else jumped on it. I hope Jared proves everyone wrong but he's not the one with the most potential at this stage. He has a lot of catching up to do and he has to do it in the spotlight of one brother winning the Stanley Cup, another winning a gold medal at the WJHC, and a third getting to the Memorial Cup finals and then being picked 2nd in the draft.
X-SHARKIE
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Has anyone actually seen him this year? I got a tape of him against London on the way, but I haven't heard any impressions from people who've seen him in the OHL this year.
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