Does Crosby have the best international resume ever?

[Nadal On Clay]

If he’s not at the top, who is? Whether it is for Canada or any other country.

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[jigglysquishy]

I created an excel file of all best on best skater stats. I'll post it when the tables start working here again.

But it's Gretzky. Most golds. Second most games played. Second most goals.Most assists. Most points.

If you open it up to non best on best, the entire top 10 will be 9 Soviets and Gretzky.

 

[Overrated]

Makarov

 

[MadLuke]

For Canadian player I imagine it would be Gretzky with a margin, Orr and Mario did not play as much during his prime in them, Howe obviously was in a era with very limited opportunity.

Some none Canadian could have had career that compete quite the well, Soviet, Swede, Finns, etc...
Crosby always made the playoff is career, not much presence to the worlds.

Sundin played a lot, Selanne played a lot on intl hockey at high levels as well.

Selanne
Most points at the Olympics
Most goals at the Olympics for someone born after 1932

World:

Ice Hockey World Championships ‑ All-Time Points Leaders

Hockey players who hold the all-time record for the most points at Ice Hockey World Championships tournaments.

www.quanthockey.com

The Mikhailov, Kharlamov, Petrov... quite the resume, I would imagine the best intl resume ever would be a soviet ? Must be.

 

[Nadal On Clay]

I created an excel file of all best on best skater stats. I'll post it when the tables start working here again.

But it's Gretzky. Most golds. Second most games played. Second most goals.Most assists. Most points.

If you open it up to non best on best, the entire top 10 will be 9 Soviets and Gretzky.

I’d be really interested to see that table. Does it include their record as a member of their national team in best on best tourneys (OG/CC/WCup)?

 

[jigglysquishy]

I’d be really interested to see that table. Does it include their record as a member of their national team in best on best tourneys (OG/CC/WCup)?

I have complete records of skaters who scored at least 10 points across their best on best careers. It's all done manually since it's not housed in any consolidated place.

You can't copy paste excel tables here any more. But hopefully the website update will fix that formatting issue soon.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

I have complete records of skaters who scored at least 10 points across their best on best careers. It's all done manually since it's not housed in any consolidated place.

You can't copy paste excel tables here any more. But hopefully the website update will fix that formatting issue soon.

The best workaround I've found so far is (for smaller tables) use the Windows snipping tool to take a screenshot. Or copy it into notepad and paste it as text (but the alignment will be off).

 

[bobholly39]

Gretzky definitely has better individual performances than Crosby. Indisputably so.

But if we take into account win/loss success, maybe Crosby has a case? I saw on the broadcast last night that Crosby is 25-0 in his last 25 games for Team Canada. Hard to beat being undefeated?

 

[MadLuke]

Crosby Canada era could have been the most Canada dominated intl hockey ever ?, but they did not face the soviet level of competition, 2005 was a lock-out loaded junior team those tend to do very well.

Gretzky won the 1984, 1987, 1991 canada cup, is that it ?

lost the single WJC he went leading the tourney as a really young player.
Lost that Bossy-Trottier-Lafleur 1981 Canada cup and the 1982 world when he was not busy winning the cup in the summer yet.

96-98 out of his prime lost.

It feel a bit strange to talk about hockey player (skater as well) loosing-winning a tourney or games, specially facing the soviet.

Crosby won wjc, world cup, world champ, 2 olympics without "loosing" any intl tourney since the 2004 WJC, without adjusting for the competition he could have an argument in that regard.